U.S. Doublespeak on Palestine

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ALL the settlements are illegal. Have always been illegal.
Wrong. The border between Israel and Palestine has never been defined. The settlements are only illegal if they are in the wrong side of it.

The Green Line is explicitly not to be considered the border.

Stop spouting Palestinian propaganda.
 

fuji

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And they are all illegal, war crimes according to the Geneva Conventions.

Palestinians shouldn't negotiate to trade good settlement land for desert land anymore, they should wait and get the ICC involved.
Will Abbas turn himself in to the ICC now the Fatah is openly admitting to terrorism?
 

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And they are all illegal, war crimes according to the Geneva Conventions.

Palestinians shouldn't negotiate to trade good settlement land for desert land anymore, they should wait and get the ICC involved.
Palestinians should negotiate instead of abandoning previous commitments and inciting violence.

And if they want a land corridor to Gaza, they're going to have to give something up.
 

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ALL the settlements are illegal. Have always been illegal.
So you think the Jewish settlements that were ethnically cleansed by Arab rioters or the Jordanian army such as in the Old City of Jerusalem are illegal? Interesting that all of a sudden you think military victories makes things okay.

And you seem to have forgotten to comment on Abbas refusing to discuss a deal or that Olmert offered essentially the Arab League plan. You also forgot to comment on how Israel building houses compares to both Palestinian governments praising attacks on random civilians.
 

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Keep up with your bullshit claims.

Meanwhile Israel is asking for talks while the Palestinian leadership praises violence against civilians.
Speaking of bullshit claims, Abbas called for restraint, while Netanyahu called for more extreme punishments.
Palestine's Abbas wants to avoid violence with Israel
Palestinian president says he wants to avoid a violent escalation with Israel as harsh security measures are imposed.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/palestine-abbas-avoid-violence-israel-151006141558791.html
 

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As fuji noted, Israel gave up on the Oslo Accords first.
More of your blatant lying. All you do is lie. Your whole worldview is based on lying.

I never said Israel gave up on Oslo and you have lied by taking that line out of context. That is from a post that said Netanyahu is committed to forming a Palestinian state.

Why don't you quote the whole original post so that everybody can see how blatantly you lie.
 

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Speaking of bullshit claims, Abbas called for restraint, while Netanyahu called for more extreme punishments.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/palestine-abbas-avoid-violence-israel-151006141558791.html
Abbas is a liar. Fatah has resumed its terrorist attacks, is directly guilty of violent crimes against civilians, and guilty of fomenting the current violence.

He says bullshit like this while giving orders to carry out violent acts. Abbas should be arrested and tried for his crimes.
 

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Speaking of bullshit claims, Abbas called for restraint, while Netanyahu called for more extreme punishments.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/palestine-abbas-avoid-violence-israel-151006141558791.html
And Franky refuses to condemn continued attacks targeting Israeli civilians.


and p.s. Are you really denying that Israel has called on Abbas several times recently to restart peace talks or that prominent figures in both Fatah and Hamas have been praising the terror attacks?
 

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And Franky refuses to condemn continued attacks targeting Israeli civilians.
I'm waiting for official reports, since we have evidence that Israel fakes allegations that Palestinians attack.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/palestinian-jewish-audience
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/young-palestinian-woman-pictured-moments-6496932


and p.s. Are you really denying that Israel has called on Abbas several times recently to restart peace talks or that prominent figures in both Fatah and Hamas have been praising the terror attacks?
Netanyahu's calls for talks are fake.
He claims they are without conditions but still says Abbas must 'recognize Israel as a racist Jewish state' and agree to be demilitarized.
Those are pre-conditions.
 

fuji

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Why would Israel arrest someone whose main job is to protect the jewish settlements in West Bank ?
His main job is to build a Palestinian state. IDF protects Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

Preventing terrorists from operating in his territory is clearly his job too, but he is not doing that, and in fact his own militia is now perpetrating terrorist attacks.
 

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I'm waiting for official reports, since we have evidence that Israel fakes allegations that Palestinians attack.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/palestinian-jewish-audience
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/young-palestinian-woman-pictured-moments-6496932




Netanyahu's calls for talks are fake.
He claims they are without conditions but still says Abbas must 'recognize Israel as a racist Jewish state' and agree to be demilitarized.
Those are pre-conditions.
You have been caught lying and you have no excuse for the bullshit you have posted. The media reports of Palestinians attacking Jews are entirely credible but that doesn't fit your Jew hating propaganda narrative.

Meanwhile you have lied about Netanyahu: he had clearly stated his support for a Palestinian state and the very reasonable conditions he has for creating one. You don't like his conditions because they involve ending the murderous attacks on Jews.
 

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Why would Israel arrest someone whose main job is to protect the jewish settlements in West Bank ?
Abbas calls for peace and non-violence while Israeli politicians call for arming 'civilians' (but not Israeli Arabs, of course).
There were reports of gangs shouting 'death to Arabs again'.
And IDF shot protesters inside of Gaza from the prison wall with live ammunition.

'never again'
 

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Abbas calls for peace and non-violence while Israeli politicians call for arming 'civilians' (but not Israeli Arabs, of course).
There were reports of gangs shouting 'death to Arabs again'.
And IDF shot protesters inside of Gaza from the prison wall with live ammunition.

'never again'
Abbas leads a group that has claimed responsibility for terrorists attacks, incited riots, and handed out financial rewards to those who perpetuate terrorism. He is in no way interested in peace.

Fatah claimed responsibility for the murder of two innocent civilians driving along a road, it is sickening that you call that peace!

Also people throwing stones and firebombs are not "protesters", stop the fucking constant lying.
 
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