U.S. Agency Says N.Korea Can Mount Warhead on Missile

Peeping Tom

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We are dealing with one capable of believing one Hiroshima class weapon will cause "nuclear winter" :rolleyes: ... cut him some slack already, I haven't heard anything like that since the left brayed about Reagan in the 80's ...

onthebottom said:
Sucks,

Why don't you burden us with that source....

OTB
 

LifeSucks

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onthebottom said:
Sucks,

Why don't you burden us with that source....

OTB
Here is an article from Yonhap News, a South Korean wire service:

U.S. nuclear strike on N.K. plant may claim 550,000 lives: expert

Complete excerpts from the article:

U.S. nuclear strike on N.K. plant may claim 550,000 lives: expert
SEOUL, May 2 (Yonhap) -- A British expert claimed Monday that a U.S. nuclear strike on North Korea's nuclear facilities in Yongbyon could create up to 550,000 victims, including South Koreans and Japanese, citing the results of a simulation test by a U.S. non-governmental organization.

John Large, an independent nuclear consultant who has advised governments around the world, said in an interview with Yonhap News Agency in Seoul that the U.S. has adopted a new "first strike" policy in its dealings with North Korea, claiming the policy also endangers the lives of South Koreans and Japanese.

"The fallout would be considerable and spread -- depending on weather -- over South Korea and parts of Japan," Larger said.

The estimated number of casualties would range from 430,000 to 550,000, he said.

He cited a nuclear simulation test by the Natural Resources Defense Council, a U.S. environmental organization that opposes the proliferation of nuclear weapons and waste. In its "After the 2001 Nuclear Posture Review" published early this year, the organization estimated the possible impact of a U.S. nuclear strike on North Korea, using recently declassified government documents, the British expert said.

With the wind blowing in a southeasterly direction, a B61-11 strike with a 300-kt capacity would have a radioactive fallout zone that extended over one-third of South Korea and parts of Japan, the expert quoted the U.S. magazine as saying.

"The use of a single B61-11 Earth-Penetrator would kick up huge amounts of contaminated soil and debris," he said, adding that the U.S. would be likely to choose a time when local winds were blowing toward South Korea rather than Russia or China.

He said Washington could be expected to deploy the nuclear bunker buster if necessary because North Korea has buried its military facilities dozens of meters underground. It is also difficult for the U.S. military to launch a large-scale strike on the North, he said.

Bunker busters, also called Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrators, are U.S.-designed bombs that penetrate deep into the earth before exploding to destroy buried targets.

He said Washington has seen its options for dealing with North Korea dwindle recently, as tension mounts over North Korea's remarks on its nuclear capability. North Korea issued an official statement in February claiming possession of nuclear weapons and has since raised the possibility that it may be preparing nuclear weapon tests.

Pyongyang conducted a short-range missile test toward the East Sea on Sunday, South Korean intelligence officials and U.S. authorities confirmed.

"The U.S. have increased nuclear strike capacity against North Korea. The thing is that the U.S. cut down the options for dealing with North Korea," Large said.

Large is an internationally recognized nuclear consultant, having advised on Taiwan's nuclear waste disposal and Japan's transportation of plutonium.

His claim on the possibility of a U.S. nuclear attack on North Korea was refuted by South Korean nuclear expert Kim Tae-woo, who said a decision by Washington to deploy its nuclear arsenal on the Korean Peninsula is "unlikely."
"It would be a difficult decision to make for the United States to strike Yongbyon, in consideration of international political circumstances. And it is also unrealistic (that they would) send a nuclear weapon rather than a conventional one into a tightly packed region like the Korean Peninsula," he said.

Yongbyon, 90 kilometers north of Pyongyang, is the site of North Korea's nuclear complex. The communist state recently stopped running a 5-megawatt research reactor there in what many speculate is a bid to reprocess nuclear fuel, a move that has raised the stakes in its nuclear standoff with the United States.

(END)

The study presented at the University of Maryland (PDF):

US Nuclear Planning After the 2001 Nuclear Posture Review
 

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Peeping Tom said:
This is total BS, as is the rest of the anti American crap you've been spamming around here. Face it, your guys lost, now you're down to the last few men and their fate aint going to be any different.
Read my post above and and eat your heart out. Face it, you've been watching too much Fox News.

For the record, my crap is not anti-American, but anti-Bush Doctrine, and, as a side effect, exposing ignorance of bumbling fools like you. :D
 

LifeSucks

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Peeping Tom said:
I haven't heard anything like that since the left brayed about Reagan in the 80's ...
Again, if you turn off Fox News, maybe you will hear a thing or two about the world. :D
 

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Again, if you turn off Fox News, maybe you will hear a thing or two about the world. :D
Ain't likely to happen. The cheap addictions are always the hardest to quit.
 

onthebottom

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Sucks,

Thanks for the link, I've read your excerpts but won't get to the full article until tomorrow.

I've been to Seoul a couple of times and I can't imagine a war, much less a nuclear war fought in such close proximity (my Uncle was there in the 50s).

I don't think there is any way the US would use nukes on North Korean without both South Korea and Japan consent, for the same reasons as your post, they would take whatever fallout that would occur. I'm not in a position to refute the conclusion but the numbers seem ridiculous.

Again, I think Bush is doing the only thing he can in that he's working multi-latterly to address the problem, this is really China's opportunity to step up and make the move from 3rd world Dictatorship to world power.

OTB
 

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onthebottom said:
Again, I think Bush is doing the only thing he can in that he's working multi-latterly to address the problem, this is really China's opportunity to step up and make the move from 3rd world Dictatorship to world power.
Well it looks like China has decided to 'step up' to this issue....but not in a manner GWB may like.
Kinda makes you wonder just what GWB & Co., are up to ?

China says U.S. impeding N.Korea arms talks

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A senior Chinese diplomat on Thursday accused the Bush administration of undermining efforts to revive negotiations with
North Korea
and said there was "no solid evidence" that Pyongyang was preparing to test a nuclear weapon, the New York Times reported.

The comments by Yang Xiyu, a senior Foreign Ministry official and China's top official on the North Korean nuclear problem, reflect growing frustration in Beijing with the Bush administration, the newspaper said in a report from Beijing.

Even as the White House presses China to find a solution to the nuclear issue, Chinese officials say, it has hurled insults at North Korea and given its leaders excuses to stay away from the bargaining table, according to the Times.

"It is true that we do not yet have tangible achievements" in ending North Korea's nuclear weapons program, Yang said in an interview with the newspaper. "But a basic reason for the unsuccessful effort lies in the lack of cooperation from the U.S. side."

Yang said that when
President Bushcalled North Korea leader Kim Jong-il a "tyrant" last month, Bush "destroyed the atmosphere" for negotiations.

China has struggled to restart six-nation negotiations on North Korea's nuclear ambitions, which stalled last June.

Yang said what diplomats here had been whispering for months: personal attacks against Kim by Bush, Secretary of State
Condoleezza Riceand other top administration officials had caused a "loss of face" for North Korean officials and created big obstacles to reaching any negotiated solution.

He urged the Bush administration to find some "informal channel" to talk with North Korean diplomats, perhaps over coffee or a meal, to build confidence. American officials have resisted any direct contact with North Korea outside the six-nation talks.

"I know the U.S. is reluctant to have even informal contacts" with North Korea, Yang told the Times. "But as the world's superpower, I would hope it can show more flexibility and sincerity to make a resumption of talks possible."

Yang said China would be "very concerned" if North Korea tested a nuclear device. But he doubted it would take that step now, adding that China had made it "very, very clear" to North Korea that a test or any other provocative display of its nuclear capability would have serious consequences.

North Korea "understands the consequences very clearly," Yang said in the interview. "I do not think we should reach the conclusion that there will be a test."

North Korea on Tuesday described reports that it could soon conduct an underground nuclear test as speculation cooked up by Washington, but it did not deny that one might be planned.

link:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20050513/ts_nm/arms_china_korea_dc
 
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