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Frankfooter

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The 25th Amendment is designed for emergency replacement of POTUSes who are comatose or definitely right over the edge psychotic. It requires the sort of congressional majority that only the clearest of situation will generate and immediate action from the cabinet. It's not a practical solution for Trump.

Mueller aside, Trump looks like he is going to stumble through the next 3 years of office, fucking up, golfing, accomplishing nothing but the occasional cookie tossed at the 1% and hopefully not bombing North Korea. He's not really psychiatrically normal. It's evident to any casual observer that he may well suffer from Narcissistic PD, as he hits all the classic symptoms. He may well be slightly senile. And he appears to have no aptitude for the mentally demanding aspects of governing. If he was a medieval king, he would be later written about as Donald the Weak and the historians would note that he was ruled by his advisors and courtiers and that he screwed up and lost several border provinces to the neighbouring kings. He might even be killed and replaced by his nobles, as a result of his incompetence.

But in more civilized times, he is free to bugger around, rant, tweet, golf and watch TV until his term expires.

The issue is whether the GOP will replace him in 2020 or attempt to re run him at a time when the majority of the American people realize that he cannot deliver on his grandiose promises and will not provide any benefit to them.
I think it likely things will change before then.

Mueller's investigation is legit and there appears to be more then enough for charges on different levels, certainly on those closest to him.
Trump's tweeting will haunt him.

It'll also be interesting to see if the republicans ditch him. They are worried enough about 2018 losses, not to mention whether they can stick by him as his reputation becomes daily lower.

I doubt it would be the 25th, the republicans would really have to turn on him or really be worried about losses.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Phil, in the sports forum, even though I may not always agree with your point of view, you will usually back them up with some substance.

However, when it comes to the political forum, the preponderance of your posts are merely mocking what someone else says. It seems you rarely have anything substantive to add. This one is a classic example
I'll tell you why guys like Frankie are dreaming of impeachment or RussiaGate criminal charges.

First of all you can't impeach a democratically elected President just because a few psychiatrists claim he's nuts or mentally disturbed.
Second of all, that whole RussiaGate is going nowhere. If Mueller had found something of substance it wouldve leaked by now, and nothing has leaked. Even Feinstein admitted there's no dirt on Trump when it comes to Russian collusion.
Last but not least, many Libs are so butthurt over the fact Hillary lost, they're just trying to find anything on Trump to have him removed from office, and there is nothing to pin on him.

Thats why guys likie Frankie are living in a fantasy world if they think Trump will be impeached.

Is that enough substance for you??
 

Frankfooter

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I'll tell you why guys like Frankie are dreaming of impeachment or RussiaGate criminal charges.

First of all you can't impeach a democratically elected President just because a few psychiatrists claim he's nuts or mentally disturbed.
Second of all, that whole RussiaGate is going nowhere. If Mueller had found something of substance it wouldve leaked by now, and nothing has leaked. Even Feinstein admitted there's no dirt on Trump when it comes to Russian collusion.
1) When his own party recognizes him as mentally incompetent then they will have a duty to remove him.
2) Mueller is a good leader and the FBI is running a tight ship. Just because everybody whoever worked for Trump leaks on him, it doesn't mean that the same is true for Mueller. Its one of the signs of good leadership. Same way there were almost zero Obama leaks.
 

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1) When his own party recognizes him as mentally incompetent then they will have a duty to remove him.
2) Mueller is a good leader and the FBI is running a tight ship. Just because everybody whoever worked for Trump leaks on him, it doesn't mean that the same is true for Mueller. Its one of the signs of good leadership. Same way there were almost zero Obama leaks.
Judging from the recent Camp David meetings I'd say the party is behind him. The ones who might fight him are leaving. That says the Gop are backing him. If he gets immigration reform and keeps the Houses he wins.

Seems to me the WH Leaks have slowed to a trickle now. Watch as this improves.
 

Frankfooter

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Judging from the recent Camp David meetings I'd say the party is behind him. The ones who might fight him are leaving. That says the Gop are backing him. If he gets immigration reform and keeps the Houses he wins.

Seems to me the WH Leaks have slowed to a trickle now. Watch as this improves.
By WH leaks, you aren't talking about the Wolff book, are you?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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1) When his own party recognizes him as mentally incompetent then they will have a duty to remove him.
2) Mueller is a good leader and the FBI is running a tight ship. Just because everybody whoever worked for Trump leaks on him, it doesn't mean that the same is true for Mueller. Its one of the signs of good leadership. Same way there were almost zero Obama leaks
Keep dreaming, Frankie :rapture:
 

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I'll tell you why guys like Frankie are dreaming of impeachment or RussiaGate criminal charges.

First of all you can't impeach a democratically elected President just because a few psychiatrists claim he's nuts or mentally disturbed.
Second of all, that whole RussiaGate is going nowhere. If Mueller had found something of substance it wouldve leaked by now, and nothing has leaked. Even Feinstein admitted there's no dirt on Trump when it comes to Russian collusion.
Last but not least, many Libs are so butthurt over the fact Hillary lost, they're just trying to find anything on Trump to have him removed from office, and there is nothing to pin on him.

Thats why guys likie Frankie are living in a fantasy world if they think Trump will be impeached.

Is that enough substance for you??
Loved it dude. Hope to see more of that.

BTW, I agree with some and disagree with other stuff but not worth debating.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Loved it dude. Hope to see more of that.

BTW, I agree with some and disagree with other stuff but not worth debating
Its the world we live in.

I wish it was different, but it seems like left-wingers dont like right-wingers, and right-wingers dont like left-wingers.
I really dont see how we're all gonna fix that anytime soon.

Maybe its not meant to be fixed??
Maybe the two sides are not supposed to like each other!

I dont know
 

Phil C. McNasty

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1) When his own party recognizes him as mentally incompetent then they will have a duty to remove him.
2) Mueller is a good leader and the FBI is running a tight ship. Just because everybody whoever worked for Trump leaks on him, it doesn't mean that the same is true for Mueller. Its one of the signs of good leadership. Same way there were almost zero Obama leaks
Tell you what Frankie, you still have an open avatar bet as to when Trump gets impeached.
Anytime you're ready sweetheart, let me know.

So far you're too chicken to take the bet :applouse:
 

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His credibility has been questioned from NYT to Tony Blair. You're just defending him because he went after Trump. And that makes you what?
That makes me on the right side of history
 

jcpro

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That makes me on the right side of history
That makes you a fanatic. Eddie Murphy's character's line from Coming to America comes to mind: "If Jesus is wrong, I don't want to be right".
 

Frankfooter

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Tell you what Frankie, you still have an open avatar bet as to when Trump gets impeached.
Anytime you're ready sweetheart, let me know.

So far you're too chicken to take the bet :applouse:
Impeached or removed from office?
I'm not sure which will take him out of office but I'd give you an avatar bet he's gone by the end of this year.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Impeached or removed from office?
I'm not sure which will take him out of office but I'd give you an avatar bet he's gone by the end of this year.
We have ourselves a bet :D

Of course assassinations don't count, he has to be removed from office legally
 

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Frankfooter

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We have ourselves a bet :D

Of course assassinations don't count, he has to be removed from office legally
Ok, full terms?

Trump is removed from office, legally or through health (dementia only) during the year 2018.
Assassination or cheeseburger/heart attack death results in a draw.

Winner gets to choose the losers sig picture(s) for
one month
one week
6 months

(pick one or suggest alternate 'prize')
 

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Seems Bannon has some regrets about his comments and is offering an apology to Trump and his family. Also states Woolf took some of his comments out of context
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/07/bannon-apology-trump-wolff-book-327216

So why did you even talk to Woolf in the first place Steve?
Bannon figured that he could be successful manipulating the GOP nominations process and that the Mercers would continue to back him. So he felt he could set himself up as an internal GOP rival to Trump and diss him whenever he felt like it.

It didn't play out. He was unsuccessful in all the 2017 special elections. He fucked up spectacularly re Roy Moore and lost the GOP a crucial Senate seat. The Mercers dumped him. So he desperately tries now to suck up to Trump and get Trump to like him again, like a sad bitch.
 
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