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mandrill

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ROTFLMFAO! Trended on Twitter just fine.
Now, that you've mentioned it, Pierre's doing just fine- live and on Twitter. Justin and Jag....not so much.
Twitter is the Empire of Dummy. But then, so is Fox. Right?

This is like making the argument that the best food in the world is rotten, mushed-up bananas eaten off the floor and pointing to the monkey pen at the zoo as your proof.
 
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silentkisser

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Nuff said..
As I said, there is plenty to criticize the MSM for. However, they are not in the same boat as Faux. You don't seem to get that. The MSM does not (despite what Faux says) lie to viewers. They do not soften stories that are bad for one of the political parties, nor do they torque them up to make them sound worse. That is what Faux and many of the right-wing "news" organizations do.

Now, I can say that, regardless of what Brand says, news organizations do not kowtow to their advertisers. Do you think Pfizer would pull ads from MSNBC if they aired a story that was accurate but damaging? Wouldn't that look so much worse for Pfizer? But here's the thing: Journalists would not keep quiet if there was a story they were not allowed to air for this type of reason. They know they would lose credibility, or their sources might go to another news org and get the scoop. Yes, there are times when legal issues prevent stories from running (think Jian Gomeshi. The dude from Canadaland had the story, and got the Star involved, but they didn't run it because it wasn't airtight, and they were worried about a defamation lawsuit. However, when Gomeshi released his FaceBook post talking about his "rough" sex preference, the gloves were off and the story came out. Or the Harvey Weinstein story...same sort of concerns), but once hurdles are clear, they report. There are examples of reporters quitting and taking the story someplace else. But those are few and far between. Most of the issues deal with a lack of solid evidence and a concern about getting sued.

Now, there is influence on journalists in a newsroom that comes from the organization. The reporters know the tone and focus a story should take. But, they won't spin something out of nothing, or make something into nothing like Faux does.
 

Valcazar

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Let's hear the leaked call then.....Or is it just a given that the NYT is to be taken at their word?

Because they did review it and authenticate it right?
I agree with this.
If they got to view and review the call, that's nice, but there is a limit to how much anyone should trust that.

Better would be the transcript.
Better still would be an actual copy of the call so people can see it.

Otherwise this has to be taken with some skepticism.
 
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Valcazar

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45,000 hours of footage, of that less than 5 minutes shown as "proof" there was no violence.
Doesn't matter. They just needed some clips and a narrative.
Then they send it around their echo chamber and boost it on Twitter.

It will soon be "everybody knows" for them, and we've seen how hard it is to get the sheep to drop the narrative once they've embraced it to soothe their fee-fees.

Tucker is a propagandist and he was given this footage for a reason (more than one reason, but this is the main one).
If he only does this one night (and I fully expect him to do more) he's already done his job.
As I've said before, Tucker is good at his actual job.
 

jcpro

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Twitter is the Empire of Dummy. But then, so is Fox. Right?

This is like making the argument that the best food in the world is rotten, mushed-up bananas eaten off the floor and pointing to the monkey pen at the zoo as your proof.
Everything is wrong that deviates from your politics. But, I understand the bitterness. Since Elon unshackled Twitter, it hasn't been much fun, eh?
 

mandrill

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Everything is wrong that deviates from your politics. But, I understand the bitterness. Since Elon unshackled Twitter, it hasn't been much fun, eh?
Twitter's where I get my titty-photos from, JC. Until Elon attacks the booby-photos, I will remain true and loyal.

This is the problem. Every since Trump, it's become a grift to engage in "blame politics" on the right. To accuse everyone of being a traitor, senile, incompetent, etc. And this involves a lot of conspiracy theorizing. Because if the problem doesn't really exist, it can't be fixed. And if it can't be fixed, it remains a nice juicy fake issue to whine about on the Rogan show or Fox. So it's a nice grift. (The last thing you want to do is have a real politics discussion about real politics because that means you admit that real politics is about choosing options and most of the Dems' choices are perfectly competent).

Like your buddy Brand. Brand is smart enough to know that he's bullshitting about COVID. But he claims COVID is a hoax because it gets him on Rogan and that = $$$$ for him. Brand repeats all the standard shit that you say when you do the "COVID is a hoax" routine. It's what's expected of him. And it's easy. The lines are already written out. He just has to refrain from doing so much blow before the show starts that he can't remember his lines. (No pun intended)

As long as you bear in mind that it's puerile entertainment, you're fine. It depends on your taste in puerile entertainment. If you're like me, you'd probably choose to watch a video of a chimpanzee masturbating because it's more intellectual and sophisticated than watching Rogan or Fox. But I realize some people don't rise to the entertainment level of watching an ape jerk off and prefer watching Carlson or Rogan. I'm not a blamer, JC. You can watch whatever you choose.
 

jcpro

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Twitter's where I get my titty-photos from, JC. Until Elon attacks the booby-photos, I will remain true and loyal.

This is the problem. Every since Trump, it's become a grift to engage in "blame politics" on the right. To accuse everyone of being a traitor, senile, incompetent, etc. And this involves a lot of conspiracy theorizing. Because if the problem doesn't really exist, it can't be fixed. And if it can't be fixed, it remains a nice juicy fake issue to whine about on the Rogan show or Fox. So it's a nice grift. (The last thing you want to do is have a real politics discussion about real politics because that means you admit that real politics is about choosing options and most of the Dems' choices are perfectly competent).

Like your buddy Brand. Brand is smart enough to know that he's bullshitting about COVID. But he claims COVID is a hoax because it gets him on Rogan and that = $$$$ for him. Brand repeats all the standard shit that you say when you do the "COVID is a hoax" routine. It's what's expected of him. And it's easy. The lines are already written out. He just has to refrain from doing so much blow before the show starts that he can't remember his lines. (No pun intended)

As long as you bear in mind that it's puerile entertainment, you're fine. It depends on your taste in puerile entertainment. If you're like me, you'd probably choose to watch a video of a chimpanzee masturbating because it's more intellectual and sophisticated than watching Rogan or Fox. But I realize some people don't rise to the entertainment level of watching an ape jerk off and prefer watching Carlson or Rogan. I'm not a blamer, JC. You can watch whatever you choose.
How would you know what Rogan or Brand say? You get your news from masturbating apes- I'm talking about the CNN, of course.
 
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The Oracle

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As I said, there is plenty to criticize the MSM for. However, they are not in the same boat as Faux. You don't seem to get that. The MSM does not (despite what Faux says) lie to viewers. They do not soften stories that are bad for one of the political parties, nor do they torque them up to make them sound worse. That is what Faux and many of the right-wing "news" organizations do.

Now, I can say that, regardless of what Brand says, news organizations do not kowtow to their advertisers. rea
MSM does not lie to viewers or isn't influenced by advertisers. They don't lean into stories and show bias?

Your confirmation bias is exceptional I must say.
 

mandrill

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Yes, as I've said before, the "Lefty's", don't broadcast for free, either. Somehow, Don Lemon manages to make $1.4 million/yr, broadcasting on CNN!!
That's his salary.
 

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US Capitol Police chief rips into Tucker Carlson over ‘offensive’ use of January 6 footage


US Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger on Tuesday ripped into Fox News host Tucker Carlson over his commentary about footage from the January 6, 2021, insurrection that he aired Monday night, saying the host “cherry-picked” from the footage to present “offensive” and “misleading” conclusions about the attack.
“Last night an opinion program aired commentary that was filled with offensive and misleading conclusions about the January 6 attack,” Manger wrote in an internal department memo obtained by CNN, adding that Carlson’s show didn’t reach out to the police department “to provide accurate context.”
“The program conveniently cherry-picked from the calmer moments of our 41,000 hours of video. The commentary fails to provide context about the chaos and violence that happened before or during these less tense moments,” Manger said.
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy granted Carlson access to more than 40,000 hours of the Capitol security footage from January 6. Carlson, who used the footage in an attempt to downplay the violence and defend the pro-Trump mob, claimed he checked with Capitol Police before airing the footage.
What to know about the Tucker Carlson January 6 footage
The Capitol Police has continuously warned that release of all security footage from the Capitol could pose a potential security risk for the building. CNN has reached out to Capitol Police for comment.
CNN and other news organizations have also requested access to the security footage. McCarthy’s office said it is still working out the process to make the footage “more widely available” but did not comment further.
In the memo, Manger specifically called out Carlson’s decision to air never-before-seen surveillance footage that he said showed USCP officer Brian Sicknick, who died one day after the January 6 insurrection. Carlson said he focused on this because Democrats have turned Sicknick into a “prop” and a “martyr” by overstating the links between his death and the insurrection.
Carlson used the new video to try to undermine the known facts surrounding Sicknick’s death, and to argue that January 6 was less violent and “deadly” than it has been portrayed.
“Finally, the most disturbing accusation from last night was that our late friend and colleague Brian Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with his heroic actions on January 6,” Manger wrote. “The Department maintains, as anyone with common sense would, that had Officer Sicknick not fought valiantly for hours on the day he was violently assaulted, Officer Sicknick would not have died the next day.”
The chief also heaped praise on his force for their work defending the Capitol the day of the attack, writing: “You fought like hell on January 6 and risked your lives to protect the Constitution and everything this country stands for. You, along with our law enforcement partners, saved every member of Congress and their staff.”
Several congressional Republicans, most notably Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, have expressed concern with Carlson’s portrayal of the attack.
“With regard to the presentation on Fox News last night, I want to associate myself entirely with the opinion of the Chief of the Capitol Police about what happened on January 6,” McConnell told reporters at the Capitol Tuesday.
According to the Justice Department, 140 officers were assaulted at the Capitol that day, including 60 Metropolitan Police officers and 80 USCP officers.


TUCKER CARLSON IS A LIAR!!
 

bver_hunter

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Sorry, can't take this seriously, this story is being reported by CNN!!
Fox has been caught for deliberately lying. This CNN piece is about the Tom Manger The Capitol Hill Police Chief who knows all the facts, and not Carlson's cherry picking blatant lies!!
 
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mandrill

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Sorry, can't take this seriously, this story is being reported by CNN!!
Mitchy, consider this an intellectual challenge.

If the 6 January events were totally law-abiding and peaceful, why have several dozen participants pleaded guilty and received multi-year prison sentences?
 
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