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true
however
google search: milk prices Canada vs US



two sides to this coin
on one hand some may not mind paying 29% higher prices to support our farmers

on the other hand
1/2 Canadian families are $200 away from not covering the bills- most buy a lot of milk/ dairy products
how rich are the Quebec dairy farmers ?
this is not free trade
That post reminds me of this.
 
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your memory problems should be a concern to you
Oracle is correct, you are trying to spin a non existent narrative
Shameful

Pierre P has never praised Trump.
HE has been too busy pointing out the Trudeau/ Liberals mistakes/failures/ scandals

instead of making up bull shit, trying to cancel Pierre P , why don't you list all of the positive liberal policies for the last 10 years?

That should not take you very long.

then we can weigh the liberal positives off against the failures/ cost and the scandals
Bottom line is people don't like PP, but Carney feels like the friendly guy next door who just happens to be a genius with loads of education and experience. PP is just a mouthy whiner who make people squirm. But he's good at repeating mindless slogans ad nauseum...Bring it home, PP! Bring it home!
 

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true
however
google search: milk prices Canada vs US



two sides to this coin
on one hand some may not mind paying 29% higher prices to support our farmers

on the other hand
1/2 Canadian families are $200 away from not covering the bills- most buy a lot of milk/ dairy products
how rich are the Quebec dairy farmers ?
this is not free trade
I think I left an erroneous impression, I am 100% against supply management as much I am against government subsidies. But many people in Ontario and Quebec are for supply management. And look, just because Carney is in power, the past 9 years of the Trudeau Liberals destructive policies is long forgotten. The MPs in Carney's cabinet are the same ones that were in Trudeau's cabinet that supported his destructive policies and Carney was Trudeau's economic advisor for 5 years. Trudeau and Carney are part of the Century Initiative to rapidly increase the population to 100 million. It is about making the rich more richer and the rest more poorer which is why so many are struggling to pay their bills. This is done by design, by Liberal policies. Trudeau is an elitist and Carney is a technocrat.
 

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Bottom line is people don't like PP, but Carney feels like the friendly guy next door who just happens to be a genius with loads of education and experience. PP is just a mouthy whiner who make people squirm. But he's good at repeating mindless slogans ad nauseum...Bring it home, PP! Bring it home!
Carney feels like the friendly arrogant guy next door who just happens to be a genius damn fool with loads of education and experience elitists connections and a globalist agenda
PP is just a mouthy whiner winner who makes stupid people squirm

sadly you are not intelligent enough to understand Carney works for the WEF , while Pierre P works for Canadians
and there is a huge difference
 

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I do not want USA products filled with hormones, chemicals and lack of inspections. And they are cutting that even further.

Nor do I want the USA to have control over basic nutritional necessities in our food chain where we can't be self sufficient in a time of crisis. Trump has proven that these things can turn on a dime. And they genuinely won't give a shit about us.
Are you still waiting for Larue to respond to your post?
I am.
 

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Carney feels like the friendly arrogant guy next door who just happens to be a genius damn fool with loads of education and experience elitists connections and a globalist agenda
PP is just a mouthy whiner winner who makes stupid people squirm

sadly you are not intelligent enough to understand Carney works for the WEF , while Pierre P works for Canadians
and there is a huge difference
How many elections have the conservatives won with PP as leader?

How much legislation did PP get through the house in his 9 years in government (i.e., while a member of the Harper government)?

As opposition leader in a minority government, what cross-party bills did he get through?

I don't know how you define winning, but I don't think you and I have the same definition of the term.
 

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How many elections have the conservatives won with PP as leader?

How much legislation did PP get through the house in his 9 years in government (i.e., while a member of the Harper government)?

As opposition leader in a minority government, what cross-party bills did he get through?

I don't know how you define winning, but I don't think you and I have the same definition of the term.
How did a career politician end up with $9 million in assets?
 

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How many elections have the conservatives won with PP as leader?
how many Canadians voted for Pierre P in a general election? Lots , he has been elected multiple times
how many Canadian have voted for Carney in a general election? ... zero

How much legislation did PP get through the house in his 9 years in government (i.e., while a member of the Harper government)?
lots

As opposition leader in a minority government, what cross-party bills did he get through?
just as many / more than Trudeau, Carney combined,

I don't know how you define winning, but I don't think you and I have the same definition of the term.
a win is when a politician places Canadian Interest ahead of a WEF agenda

the definition of a win
Zero Carbon Taxes
Build infrastructure
Get our economy running at its full potential;
Allow Canadians to keep more of their hard earned income
 
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how many Canadians voted for Pierre P in a general election? Lots , he has been elected multiple times
how many Canadian have voted for Carney in a general election? ... zero


lots


just as many / more than Trudeau, Carney combined,


a win is when a politician places Canadian Interest ahead of a WEF agenda

the definition of a win
Zero Carbon Taxes
Build infrastructure
Get our economy running at its full potential;
Allow Canadians to keep more of their hard earned income
And you also forget not following the ridiculous Century Initiative to increase the population to 100 million by 2100 in an effort to make the rich more richer and the rest more poorer. Carney is part of this nasty corporate lobby group just as Trudeau was. Poilievre voted down this Century Initiative.
 
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BLA BLA BLA
o.k., so i'm 99.7% sure you're a bot, but for funzies:

1. You're right that more people have voted for PP than JT; in the last 4 elections, their vote totals are:

PP, Carlton riding: 28,928 27,762 32,147 36,534
JT, Papeneau: 16,429 26,391 25,957 22,848

Similar sized ridings, similar vote share around 50%. People in Papineau just don't vote.

2. PP has sponsored 7 bills, and had 1 pass. He's been in government for 21 years. If you had a 21 year career, and delivered 1 project, would you be the boss? Still Employed?

3. The entire 44th parliament was due to Trudeau and the NDP working together. All of that is cross party legislation. The Block supported the liberals in the last confidence motion. That's cross party. The only guys who can't work cross party are the ones lead by PP.



the definition of a win
Zero Carbon Taxes
Build infrastructure
Get our economy running at its full potential;
Allow Canadians to keep more of their hard earned income
PP has achieved none of these things in 21 years as an elected official. Are you tired of winning yet, or do you need another 21 years?
 

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how many Canadians voted for Pierre P in a general election? Lots , he has been elected multiple times
how many Canadian have voted for Carney in a general election? ... zero


lots


just as many / more than Trudeau, Carney combined,


a win is when a politician places Canadian Interest ahead of a WEF agenda

the definition of a win
Zero Carbon Taxes
Build infrastructure
Get our economy running at its full potential;
Allow Canadians to keep more of their hard earned income
You must be excited that there will be an election, likely April 28.

 
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o.k., so i'm 99.7% sure you're a bot, but for funzies:
i am 100% sure you are wrong

1. You're right that more people have voted for PP than JT; in the last 4 elections, their vote totals are:

PP, Carlton riding: 28,928 27,762 32,147 36,534
JT, Papeneau: 16,429 26,391 25,957 22,848

Similar sized ridings, similar vote share around 50%. People in Papineau just don't vote.
ok
but i did not mention Trudeau the moron
I mentioned Carney >> zero votes


2. PP has sponsored 7 bills, and had 1 pass. He's been in government for 21 years. If you had a 21 year career, and delivered 1 project, would you be the boss? Still Employed?
that is disingenuous
#1 he has been in the opposition for half that time and Trudeau never supported any non partisan bills
#2 The other half of the time Steven Harper was in charge

if you were half as critical of either Trudeau or Carney you would be paying conservative party dues




3. The entire 44th parliament was due to Trudeau and the NDP working together. All of that is cross party legislation. The Block supported the liberals in the last confidence motion. That's cross party. The only guys who can't work cross party are the ones lead by PP.
Trudeau and the NDP working together???

Have you not been paying attention
That was a disaster.
One corrupt fool supporting a different corrupt fool so the first corrupt fool could guarantee himself a pension
Give your head a shake


PP has achieved none of these things in 21 years as an elected official. Are you tired of winning yet, or do you need another 21 years?
You are right Pierre has not achieved any of the scandals / corruption that JT & the sell out Jagmeet Singh has.

not to worry Pierre P will win
there will be an election soon and you just watch how quickly Carney departs when he figures out he is the opposition leader
he wont stay
 

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Carney feels like the friendly arrogant guy next door who just happens to be a genius damn fool with loads of education and experience elitists connections and a globalist agenda
PP is just a mouthy whiner winner who makes stupid people squirm

sadly you are not intelligent enough to understand Carney works for the WEF , while Pierre P works for Canadians
and there is a huge difference
That is a load of crap, but congrats on dropping the "Blame Trudeau" mantra... finally! Everybody hates PP, even the Cons, but they hate Liberals more. Carney has outperformed his expected low key boring image. He is likeable and appears human ( unlike Poindexter). I bet you're thrilled with Putin's efforts to elect PP through Internet misinformation.... hey, it worked for Trump!
 
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that is disingenuous
#1 he has been in the opposition for half that time and Trudeau never supported any non partisan bills
#2 The other half of the time Steven Harper was in charge
So PP is a toady who wont stand up to his boss, AND someone who puts party ahead of the needs of Canadians. Neat.


One corrupt fool supporting a different corrupt fool so the first corrupt fool could guarantee himself a pension
Give your head a shake
When did PP earn his pension? If he's so ideologically opposed to it, has he handed it back to the people of Canada?

Also: Why is he living in Stornoway when he represents Carlton, which is 30 minutes from parliament hill. "man of the people" over here can't hack a 30 minute commute.


You are right Pierre has not achieved any of the scandals / corruption that JT & the sell out Jagmeet Singh has.
Aww, so you you forgot about robocalls. Pollievre interfered in the 2011 elections, then changed the law to make it harder to catch him next time. (his one and only successful bill). Weird that mister "in it for Canadians" has done 100% of his work to rig elections.
 

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That is a load of crap, but congrats on dropping the "Blame Trudeau" mantra... finally! Everybody hates PP, even the Cons, but they hate Liberals more. Carney has outperformed his expected low key boring image. He is likeable and appears human ( unlike Poindexter). I bet you're thrilled with Putin's efforts to elect PP through Internet misinformation.... hey, it worked for Trump!
re "Blame Trudeau" :
the moron will go down in history as the worst PM in Canadian history
So do not be surprised when his name comes up when discussing some of the problems he has created

Everybody hates PP, even the Cons, but they hate Liberals more
yeah OK, the conservatives do not hate Pierre P
You are a nutjob

Carney has outperformed ????

All Carney has done is copy Pierre Ps policy ideas

  • Axe the tax
  • GST housing tax plan- identical to the Conservative party housing announcement Poilievre had made last year that was later voted down by the governing Liberals when introduced as an Opposition motion in the House of Commons.
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if you had any integrity/ honesty you would be rejecting copy cat Carney because you had previously rejected his policies

but alas, you would rather eat your own children than admit a conservative is right
 
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So PP is a toady who wont stand up to his boss, AND someone who puts party ahead of the needs of Canadians. Neat.
that is the response of a fool
you know how the party system works in politics

AND someone who puts party ahead of the needs of Canadians.
you ae confusing PierreP with the Liberal Party of Canada


When did PP earn his pension? If he's so ideologically opposed to it, has he handed it back to the people of Canada?
you are stunned
PierreP did not support a destructive Trudeau in order to earn his pension like Singh did

Also: Why is he living in Stornoway when he represents Carlton, which is 30 minutes from parliament hill. "man of the people" over here can't hack a 30 minute commute.
you are still stunned
Stornoway has been Official residence of Canada’s leader of the Opposition since 1950


Aww, so you you forgot about robocalls. Pollievre interfered in the 2011 elections, then changed the law to make it harder to catch him next time. (his one and only successful bill). Weird that mister "in it for Canadians" has done 100% of his work to rig elections.
yikes !
you must has spent hours trying to dig up dirt on Pieere P and this the best you were able to come up with ?

here is a non exhausted list of Trudeau/ Liberal scandals, any of which would have sunk a Conservative govt
CASH-FOR-ACCESS SCANDAL (2016)
AGA KHAN AFFAIR (2016)
ELBOWGATE (2016)
INDIA TRIP (2018)
KOKANEE GROPE (2018)
SNC LAVALIN AFFAIR (2019)
WE CHARITY SCANDAL (2020)
BLACKFACE (2019)
THE FREEDOM CONVOY (2022)
THE TRIPS
2017: Trudeau makes his infamous “Welcome to Canada” tweet, which touched off a wave of illegal entries into Canada at illegal border crossings — most notoriously at Roxham Rd. on the Quebec/New York state border
2018: Arrest and subsequent detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou at Vancouver airport on a U.S. extradition request, a move that would result in the summary arrest of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig by the Chinese government. They would be released after 1,019 days in detention on Sept. 24, 2021, the same day Canada released Meng from custody
2017-2021: Appointment, and subsequent resignation, of Governor General Julie Payette
2019: Vice-Adm. Mark Norman affair
2020: Bill C-11, the controversial Online Streaming Act, is tabled in the House of Commons
2020: The infamous May 2020 order-in-council summarily banning thousands of semi-automatic firearms is introduced
2020: Questionable response to COVID-19 pandemic, including bungling disbursement of support money, vaccine mandates and questionable vaccine procurement
2020: ArriveCan scandal, where an $80,000 pandemic-era travel app ballooned into costing nearly $60M, and raised questions surrounding how government contracts get handed out
2021: Gen. Jonathan Vance affair
2021: Government tables bill C-21, its far-reaching and contentious gun control legislation
2021: Trudeau and cabinet abstaining from China Uighurs genocide vote
2021: A mansion belonging to property developer Wei Wei is raided by police as part of an underground gambling investigation in July 2020. Toronto Life Magazine later revealed that Wei had attended pricey Liberal party fundraisers and posed with photos with Trudeau, and was a member of a Chinese industry delegation that had connections to million-dollar donations to the Trudeau Foundation
2022: Media reports reveal the Trudeau Liberals had paid billions in consultancy fees during their time in office, including over $110 million to McKinsey & Company
2022: The Liberals and NDP sign their infamous supply and confidence agreement that would protect the minority Liberals from being toppled by non-confidence votes. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh publicly tore up the agreement last September, but kept supporting the government
2023: Media reports uncover the scale and scope of Chinese interference in Canadian affairs, including allegations of meddling in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections and threats to Canadian politicians. The PMO was given reports from intelligence officials on the meddling as early as 2017, including warnings that candidates may be part of Chinese interference attempts, but allegedly ignored the warnings
2023: The federal government announces attempts to recoup the $112,000 anti-racism grant awarded to a group associated with activist Laith Marouf, who routinely posted antisemitic material on social media
2024: Global Affairs Canada purchases $9 million condo in Manhattan for consul general
2024: Randy Boissonnault implosion — including pandemic-era federal contracts granted to a company he co-owned, and changing stories on his supposed Indigenous background
2024: Sustainable Development Technology Canada program, better known as the “green slush fund” scandal

yet somehow you are able to ignore all of this as you are a devoted liberal stooge

you are are going to resort to mud slinging, be ready to get covered in steaming turds
 

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that is the response of a fool
you know how the party system works in politics


you ae confusing PierreP with the Liberal Party of Canada




you are stunned
PierreP did not support a destructive Trudeau in order to earn his pension like Singh did


you are still stunned
Stornoway has been Official residence of Canada’s leader of the Opposition since 1950



yikes !
you must has spent hours trying to dig up dirt on Pieere P and this the best you were able to come up with ?

here is a non exhausted list of Trudeau/ Liberal scandals, any of which would have sunk a Conservative govt
CASH-FOR-ACCESS SCANDAL (2016)
AGA KHAN AFFAIR (2016)
ELBOWGATE (2016)
INDIA TRIP (2018)
KOKANEE GROPE (2018)
SNC LAVALIN AFFAIR (2019)
WE CHARITY SCANDAL (2020)
BLACKFACE (2019)
THE FREEDOM CONVOY (2022)
THE TRIPS
2017: Trudeau makes his infamous “Welcome to Canada” tweet, which touched off a wave of illegal entries into Canada at illegal border crossings — most notoriously at Roxham Rd. on the Quebec/New York state border
2018: Arrest and subsequent detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou at Vancouver airport on a U.S. extradition request, a move that would result in the summary arrest of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig by the Chinese government. They would be released after 1,019 days in detention on Sept. 24, 2021, the same day Canada released Meng from custody
2017-2021: Appointment, and subsequent resignation, of Governor General Julie Payette
2019: Vice-Adm. Mark Norman affair
2020: Bill C-11, the controversial Online Streaming Act, is tabled in the House of Commons
2020: The infamous May 2020 order-in-council summarily banning thousands of semi-automatic firearms is introduced
2020: Questionable response to COVID-19 pandemic, including bungling disbursement of support money, vaccine mandates and questionable vaccine procurement
2020: ArriveCan scandal, where an $80,000 pandemic-era travel app ballooned into costing nearly $60M, and raised questions surrounding how government contracts get handed out
2021: Gen. Jonathan Vance affair
2021: Government tables bill C-21, its far-reaching and contentious gun control legislation
2021: Trudeau and cabinet abstaining from China Uighurs genocide vote
2021: A mansion belonging to property developer Wei Wei is raided by police as part of an underground gambling investigation in July 2020. Toronto Life Magazine later revealed that Wei had attended pricey Liberal party fundraisers and posed with photos with Trudeau, and was a member of a Chinese industry delegation that had connections to million-dollar donations to the Trudeau Foundation
2022: Media reports reveal the Trudeau Liberals had paid billions in consultancy fees during their time in office, including over $110 million to McKinsey & Company
2022: The Liberals and NDP sign their infamous supply and confidence agreement that would protect the minority Liberals from being toppled by non-confidence votes. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh publicly tore up the agreement last September, but kept supporting the government
2023: Media reports uncover the scale and scope of Chinese interference in Canadian affairs, including allegations of meddling in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections and threats to Canadian politicians. The PMO was given reports from intelligence officials on the meddling as early as 2017, including warnings that candidates may be part of Chinese interference attempts, but allegedly ignored the warnings
2023: The federal government announces attempts to recoup the $112,000 anti-racism grant awarded to a group associated with activist Laith Marouf, who routinely posted antisemitic material on social media
2024: Global Affairs Canada purchases $9 million condo in Manhattan for consul general
2024: Randy Boissonnault implosion — including pandemic-era federal contracts granted to a company he co-owned, and changing stories on his supposed Indigenous background
2024: Sustainable Development Technology Canada program, better known as the “green slush fund” scandal

yet somehow you are able to ignore all of this as you are a devoted liberal stooge

you are are going to resort to mud slinging, be ready to get covered in steaming turds
Thank you for this. It very much shows how low information you are. Most of these are just "things that happened", and have no tie to Trudeau. I mean, you literally wrote "the trips"

Please, from all these "scandals", who went to jail? What laws were broken?

Michael Sona went to jail for the robocalls scandal. "Pierre Poutine" somehow managed to avoid jail time, but changed the law to make sure he couldn't be prosecuted after the fact.
 
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