no you did not
the requirement is successful
murdering 20 to 50 million of your own people is not a success
you need professional help
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the requirement is successful
murdering 20 to 50 million of your own people is not a success
you need professional help
Trump got 71m votes, you saying 71m far right in the US? He's representing majority of Americans....not far right individuals. You're showing your true colors
LMAO that's the best you got? Trust me, he didn't do anything to me. I don't live there, it's the Americans who have to live with his lies for the next 4 yrs.
Let's see how many trade wars he can create, and how many friendly nations become enemies, or when inflation jumps or supply chain collapse in the US as foreign nations punish them for increasing tariffs. Soon they will become dependent on Russia, Iran or Turkey.
I sense a bit of internalized whoreophobia here.Thanks for sharing. That’s definitely traumatic and they definitely profile Asian and certain other women travelling alone for being sex workers if you can’t tell them what your job is or salient details about your travel. The funny thing is, this is why women get trafficked. To cross borders without being harassed.
@Josephine long post
Here is a more right leaning whore perspective on the Bill. Girls reading it will not like it
I think there’s very little that’s wrong with Bill C-36. It still fully retains all the protections sex workers got before in Supreme Court, and the changes to problematic language in Bill C-49. Nothing changed for the worse with this Bill. We can still work safely and legally.
I might even argue it cares more about women, than what existed before it.
Yes they limited places of sex work — there have always been laws in Toronto about not having places of sex work near schools, and laws about signage in residential neighborhoods. I don’t think that’s oppressive to SWs.That is just sensible.
Do you know why we have so many one way streets downtown? It was so Johns couldn’t cruise around as easily for street hookers. Street hookers are considered a nuisance. That shouldn’t offend anyone. And, it’s not safe for them anyway. Nobody wants to walk through a track full of prostitutes. It’s scary and indecent. They shouldn’t be out there.
As long as the bill doesn’t push women into unsafe places (like the street) then it’s doing its job to protect our safety. That was the point of changing the laws before. To get them safe, and off the street.
Do you support complete decriminalization? There is only one aspect of that I like, which is the government not having a say in how or why or who I fuck, and just the privacy of it.
But, I don’t think it’s necessary nor is it responsible, and it’s been shown to have poor outcomes now that it’s been some time after they did it in NZ and somewhat in Finland.
There’s always going to be people who think decriminalization is just so women can just peddle pussy unfettered anywhere they want. Fuck no. Nobody wants to live in some weird dystopian sex tourism capital.
Besides, it is still largely decriminalized in this bill regardless, for SWs. Bill C-36 is about public nuisance issues mainly, protection of children/family secondly, and encouraging women not to do this job and helping them exit the industry.
Do our rights to do sex work out in the open matter more than public nuisance and kids? I think they absolutely do not. Sex is a private adult thing, it doesn’t belong out in the public domain IMO. That doesn’t endanger SWs at all, it’s just asking for us to respect other members of our society. We have civic duties too.
Many women get trapped in this job just from having no work experience, skills, network of normal people etc. so what’s wrong with the bill helping them exit? It’s often not a good thing when this is your only option.
The talking point I come across the most with hoes, is that this kind wording “stigmatizes” sex work as a terrible path for women, but I am fine with that personally. Sex work is not ideal usually, and I don’t think it should be normalized as some legitimate option, as if it is perfectly unproblematic. We all know that’s a lie.
I’m fine with sex work remaining an underbelly industry, and somewhat clandestine. If we keep it private, stigma shouldn’t even matter. Stigmatization is what keeps it a bit suppressed. That’s how we organically morally regulate things.
And what’s wrong with the light stigmatization introduced in Bill C-36 anyway? It’s hardly a condemnation. Is it so people don’t judge us for being sluts?
We can’t reduce political discourse on rights to “don’t judge me!” — that is juvenile.
I don’t fully buy the “stigmatization = more violence” argument I’ve always heard, either. This is only true with certain stipulations. Another questionable talking point from hoe scholars.
I also think SW should be stigmatized on some level because frankly, I am tired of every public discourse being about sex and sexual orientation. It’s just sex stuff being constantly discussed, ad infinitum. Talking about who fucks who, or why, or how. Like you go on a dating app now, and people have all these weird BDSM acronyms and stuff. Why not just put your hobbies and interests? It’s gross and uncivilized. Same goes for LGBT123 stuff.
And yeah, as with places of sex work, I don’t want any of that stuff discussed around kids either. So it’s the same principle. That’s not sexual education. If anything it retards their natural sexual education and development. It confuses them. They don’t need to hear about all that.
I am not sure what sex worker rights are being lost with this bill at all.
I don’t believe you can answer me either, because I asked you. Three times.
Oh and, last thing, it also criminalized men to buy sex from us, but that’s a GOOD thing for us. It keeps us safe, bc they know we have the upper hand legally if something happens and they don’t act up while alone with us. This is a great protection for us.
It looks to me like they made this bill FOR women. Not to hurt us. I just can’t see it that way. I mean, if you aren’t exactly sure how it hurts you, then at least consider how it helps potentially? And if you can’t see that, there probably is no issue worth discussing at all about Bill C-36.
I obviously haven’t been doing this since 2014, but I think sex worker rights are perfectly preserved, and they aren’t going to just throw out our Supreme Court decisions now because of a change to a Conservative government. You shouldn’t be voting with whoredom as your hinge issue anyway, you should vote for who is best government for all of us, tbh.
A cover for what?
Also you suck dick just like those embarrassing street workers. You are not better than them. Just more privilege
Decriminalization doesn't mean legalization. I want decrim, not legalization.
The bill c36 did cause more problem: https://macleans.ca/politics/ottawa...x-workers-and-theyre-running-out-of-patience/
Stigmatization is not only being insulted, it's being harassed, outed to your families, some workers from other culture could litteraly get killed of their family learned but we need it?! Really girl?
A little bit of compassion goes a long way.
A cover for bigger measures, more
censure, making advertising and screening difficults.
While your agency do everything for you, others have to actually look out for themselves.
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too funny
He will be taking about positive issues like deregulation, the end of the carbon tax (there are two), the end of the green energy slush fund / money pit , defunding the CBC attracting foreign investment and reviving the productivity in our economy.
There most certainly will be significant changes to immigration. he will talk about the changes as its no secret the current system is broken
there will be deportations but not a lot of fanfare about dealing with illegals
do not be so sure of that
Covid turned out to be a nothing burger
Nobody liked the infringement on our rights by govt and govts can not print money like that again
endured the leftist culture because
1. we knew it was not sustainable and knew Justin Trudeau would self destruct (It took way too long, but manure always decomposes)
2. we respect and obey the laws of the land (you should try that)
now lets talk about your future
the leftist experiment in Canada has failed sooooo miserably that the leftist Liberals / NDP are going to get decimated in the up coming election
the youth of Canada now know they were lied to and betrayed by Justin Trudeau
they have been robbed of the dream of homeownership
Canadians are not going to forget what theses bozos did as there is an absolute mountain of govt debt that will take several generations to pay down
Justin's legacy is cemented as the worst PM in Canadian history
Donations to the liberal party are going to dry up , the NDP will remain perpetually broke
Both parties will need to rebuild , the liberals will need to take a step back to centre to survive
The left will not get a chance to run the failed experiment again for a very, very long time
So strap on your seat belt , you are in for a long run of conversative government and reversal of loonie left policies as quick as possible
Ponder that
still lmao ?
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We do want to see changes.
Axing the carbon tax, reducing inflation, cutting TFW program and so on.
But you are not going to see mass deportations, ending DEI, isolationism.
The latter is what appeals to you.
The latter is what you will never get in Canada.
Everything leftist you hate in Canada is there to stay.
You are preaching to the choir.
I already said I will vote for Pierre.
However things like abortions, lgbtq rights, trans women in women's bathrooms, DEI are not going to change.
They are there to stay.
No mass deportations.
Those are what appeal to you Trump supporters.
But those things you hate are ingrained in Canada and they are there to stay.
Oh and I see Secret is a spa not an agency. You know what happened to Ambition? Could be happening to you. No job tomorrow. By the law you are considered trafficked they just tolerate it unil they don't.C-36.
Police raid Cambridge, Ont. spa as part of human trafficking investigation
Waterloo regional police conducted a search warrant Thursday at a business and a home in Cambridge, Ont. as result of a human trafficking investigation.
Shocker! SJW just told me I’ve got “internalized misogyny/racial self-hatred/whorephobia/wtv.” and that I lack empathy.
It’s like a script.
Some other girl once said I had “internalized racism” because I was watching Uncle Roger and his accent is racist. These people will literally tell you are gay, and you just don’t know it because “internalized homophobia”
Not worthy of further response, just internalize deez nuts ok
If a lot of people tells you the same thing. Maybe it's worth looking into it
Have a good night
If you know he lies , don't hang on everything he says, ulcers are not fun
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Of all the major economies, the US economy stands out as the best positioned for tariffs as 2/3 of the economy is domestic
Imports/ Exports are significant in $ but not a massive % of their GDP
China is the target,.
they do not play by the rules
Trump will rattle our cage and that might be painful for us (Supply Management)
Hopefully he just wants to be able to claim a PR victory over trade with Canada
China is the target
Which friends of the US will become enemies ?
who is going kick sand in his face and risk losing all access to the US market ?
Lets have it, who?
for what ?
You do realize that you cannot put all voters in 1 bucket right?
Voters vote for a candidate even if they disagree on certain positions.
That has nothing to do with Trump being far right or representing far right positions.
ongoing and steady deportation works too
no fanfare, no big announcements just catch the criminal illegal immigrants , process them and ship them out, rinse and repeat
you know ..... apply the laws of the land so we can claim "equality for legal immigrants", nobody gets special treatment by breaking our laws
I am not a Trump supporter
I made that clear
he is nasty mean-spirited and vindictive
the us electorate was faced with two unpleasant choices
bad personality (which you can ignore) vs bad policy (which impacts your daily life)
I figured it was going to be close, the democrats were fumbling the ball with the hand off the Harris
and inflation is political suicide for the incumbent
you figure it out
I am just here for the loonie left meltdown show
Highly entertaining
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With Trump back in control friendly nations in Europe will become
more dependent on the U.S. military industrial complex to shore up
defences against Russia and Iran. They will of course have to pay a
lot of money.
These working men want nothing to do with Mr. Trudeau, lol...
Okay.
I was basically saying nothing Trump is doing in the US will be repeated by Pierre here.
There wont be an mass deportations, ending DEI, ending abortion and whatever else that pisses off the right these days.
Maybe just have some respect for the history of your chosen profession and those "SJWs" who have tried to fight hard for your rights as a sexworker.
You are really showing your intelligent and mature ability to discuss issues here.
I was going to join in on the debate between you and Josephine, but if this is how you respond, there is no point and zero chance of meaningful conversation.
Really?
Are you guys both literally this mentally handicapped that you could not detect I have non-trivial formal education about this topic? Tell me about the history — you two both lost your shit about what I said about girls who work on the street. You don’t know anything about the history.
Do even know why prostitution laws were changed to protect us? It was because of Robert Pickton and they were trying to show that women on the street are many times more likely to get murdered. Secondarily just being out on the street in your communities causes negative relationships with other residents and causes SWs more stigmatization.
It is ALWAYS in SW best interests to be off the streets. And you lecture me about compassion and ask me why I think I’m better? Maybe I am better because I am educated to not be fighting for women to be standing in the streets peddling pussy.
Did you not see that I implied had the history of Toronto’s urban planning according to how they were organizing/limiting the spaces of prostitution from the literal 80s? Of course you didn’t see that. Because you don’t know anything about the legal history and development of prostitution legislation in Canada.
I was just going to let her live, and you had to come make it worse.
YO, your reading comprehensions were so bad that you thought I didn’t know what decriminalization vs. legalization is despite me implying the relevant case studies, one of them now longitudinal, that said the outcomes of decriminalization in New Zealand weren’t as good as they thought. Do you know the importance of New Zealand? Finland? Anywhere else? It’s now 2024 hoes, I know you can’t read but can you count? Because you sent me articles that were a decade old and not salient. Decriminalization, and anything approximating it had poor outcomes.
You want to tell me about the sex workers who FOUGHT for ME? Do you know who they are? Do you know who the top three academic experts in Ontario who helped those advocacy groups do what they did? Do you know who the lawyers were? Do you even know what was wrong with Bill C49 and what a win that was? Can you cite to me even ONE section on C-36, where something critical from Bedford had been revoked?
One ”basic human right” or even protection that has been lost?
What is the predominantly held view on trafficking? Who said it?
Don’t tell me to have respect when you couldn’t even be bothered to learn anything about the shit you were regurgitating.
Get over it. Fuck off. And stop challenging me. I’ve never seen such an astounding case of Dunning Kruger or brainrot
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Answer me these questions then you can come talk to me seriously. Otherwise you’re lucky I even took the time to cuss you out in an educational fashion just now. Dumb hoes. Making us all look bad.
First of all c49 is for the petroleum in New Foundland.
Second I have no problem exchanging with you but being book smart and asking trivia questions doesn't make you experienced or doesn't mean you know what you talking about first hand. The person you are answering to has been a sex worker for almost as long as you been on this Earth and was also previously one of those street workers you despise. Hell you could have learned from her experience in YOUR country.
You need to get a thicker skin hun. Slamming the door like a teenager and insulting everyone like they are beneath you is not the flex you think it is.
Hell with a little discussion we could have exchange information and grow from this. Not today lol
