Trump slams Zelensky, calling him a dictator and blaming him for starting the war

[SchlongConery]

Its ok to object, refuse, cut of oil and power, boot out the ambassador. threaten etc, but if they send an invasion force to call our bluff, then its time to negotiate a peace before the shooting starts. I don't wanna be American, I will accept being 15-20% poorer to avoid being American, but not being wiped out or in a war. I can live with being American I think, esp if we can negotiate a favorable annexation and 51-57 states and maybe have Canada manage some of our sacred cows like healthcare, ourselves.

Ahhhhh... so you are a cowardly Russian! Your values are that anyone should fold at the hint of conflict, and then live under the boot of a Dictator than fight for your freedom like Ukrainians, Canadians and Americans.

I'd rather die fighting than give up my freedom to a tyrannical, brutal, vengeful narcissistic kleptocrat. That includes both Putin and Trump.

 

[SchlongConery]

Sidebar: The Washington Treaty was signed in 1949, IN WASHINGTON DC. For the US to pretend that they are somehow outside NATO, when it was founded to protect US interests in Europe is rediculous.

This is not emphasized enough. Russia IS THE sole reason NATO was founded. To protect against these barbaric fuckwads. Almost 75 years later it remains true. Last time they failed, the west foolishly let its guard down for almost 30 years. Except for the countries like Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia who had fifty years to get to know the real Russian mind and have been working to prepared for their rearmamement and continuation of their natural lizard brains. And sure enough, they ttacked other countries not affiliatied with NATO. Ukraine saw the writing on the wall and tried to get in NATO because they knew it was only a matter of time until the fucking Russians were going to revert back to their true selves.

 

[nottyboi]

Ahhhhh... so you are a cowardly Russian! Your values are that anyone should fold at the hint of conflict, and then live under the boot of a Dictator than fight for your freedom like Ukrainians, Canadians and Americans.

I'd rather die fighting than give up my freedom to a tyrannical, brutal, vengeful narcissistic kleptocrat. That includes both Putin and Trump.

You would die to avoid being richer? Trump is gone in 4 years, his power will wane in 2, and you will die for that? You are about as dumb as I thought you were.

 

[squeezer]

What type of economic war are you talking about? Tariff is no different from Joe Biden killing the Keystone Pipeline...

I hope if he implements tariffs you are put out of work. It's nothing personal but any Canadian who still supports Trumputin deserves what a traitor asks for.

 

[nottyboi]

Then Fucking Leave Now. If you think trump will consider us anything other than North Puerto Rico, you're delusional. No Voting, resource extraction only. Have to wipe out "radical Canadian Lefties" so their "socialism" doesn't spread to the USA.

As all these Tough Guy Conservatives love to say: Freedom Ain't Free. Except Nottyboi. He wants freedom, as long as it doesn't involve any kind of sacrifice. If I've gotta work for it, you might as well just take it from me.

Me, a soy-boy lefty: I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

Who knows where it goes. Would you rather be living in Puerto Rico or Bakhmut Ukraine? It remains to be seen how this develops, but Trump has 2 years to the mid-terms so its not worth worrying about. From the collective silence of our NATO allies on the subject, we should assume we are on our own and if that is the case we should build Nukes to improve our bargaining power.

 

[oil&gas]

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Canada IS a NATO member, so that would trigger article 5 of the Washington Treaty, meaning "if you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us". And Europe has lost of reasons to stop both Russia and America from becoming expansionist.
............

It would be great if some of NATO members chime in
to warn Trump against further escalation of his threat
on our sovereignty.

NATO would not stop the U.S. from invading non-NATO
countries. It would be interesting to see how it will respond
to conflicts within its organization. I now can understand
why NATO doesn't want Ukraine to be its member.

 

[richaceg]

I hope if he implements tariffs you are put out of work. It's nothing personal but any Canadian who still supports Trumputin deserves what a traitor asks for.

the tariffs will actually make our business more competitive...we're a Canadian mfg. you have full blown TDS when you can't think rationale and just ramble about stuff you have zero idea.

 

[boobtoucher]

It would be great if some of NATO members chime in
to warn Trump against further escalation of his threat
on our sovereignty.

NATO would not stop the U.S. from invading non-NATO
countries. It would be interesting to see how it will respond
to conflicts within its organization. I now can understand
why NATO doesn't want Ukraine to be its member.

Bro, NATO has already voted for Ukraine to become a member. In 2008.

Relations with Ukraine

A strong, independent Ukraine is vital for the stability of the Euro-Atlantic area. Relations between NATO and Ukraine date back to the early 1990s and have since developed into one of the most substantial of NATO’s partnerships. Since 2014, in the wake of Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea...

www.nato.int

Pooty-poots got cranky then, installed a puppet government, which got overthrown by the people of Ukraine. So then he started attacking the US via paying right wing pundits to spout his talking points. Which has been working fabulously.

And here we are...

 

[boobtoucher]

Who knows where it goes. Would you rather be living in Puerto Rico or Bakhmut Ukraine? It remains to be seen how this develops, but Trump has 2 years to the mid-terms so its not worth worrying about. From the collective silence of our NATO allies on the subject, we should assume we are on our own and if that is the case we should build Nukes to improve our bargaining power.

To paraphrase another very stupid american; "I can see America from my house". If introducing Mr. Abrams to Mr. Molotov costs me my life, I'm up for it.

 

[shack]

You would die to avoid being richer? Trump is gone in 4 years, his power will wane in 2, and you will die for that? You are about as dumb as I thought you were.

Glad to see you show us who you really are. We believe you.

 

[shack]

you have full blown TDS when you can't think rationale

Sorry but hating trump has nothing to do with being in a cult.

It is the people that are in a cult, trump Devotee Syndrome, that have warped sense of reality. They are literally in love with their leader and we all know the truism of the old adage,

LOVE IS BLIND.

 

[richaceg]

Sorry but hating trump has nothing to do with being in a cult.

It is the people that are in a cult, trump Devotee Syndrome, that have warped sense of reality. They are literally in love with their leader and we all know the truism of the old adage,

LOVE IS BLIND.

Hate is blind too...

 

[JohnHenry]

the tariffs will actually make our business more competitive...we're a Canadian mfg.

Would you care to expand on this? How will the US government's artificially raising the price of any sales you have into the US make you more competitive?

 

[oil&gas]

Bro, NATO has already voted for Ukraine to become a member. In 2008.

Promise looks more like a bait by now. Nonetheless it may turn
out to be the right thing to do given that Ukraine has been incentivized
to fight Putin in a long war of attrition by the bogus promise of
NATO membership. Now that Russia has been
significantly weakened let Trump does the dishonourable thing of
talking peace. Germany will love to have Russia resume natural
gas export after the war ends. Europe will scramble to buy F-35 jets
and other advanced weaponry to shore up defence. Ukraine will better
remain a non NATO member to serve as the vanguard of Europe in
the buffer zone between Russia and NATO members. It is better
to support Ukraine through unloading worn out military equipments
and weapons and giving their soldiers cash than making it a NATO
member at the risk of facing a democratically elected pro-Russia
regime. Putin will be forced to withdraw Russia's influence from the west
and focus on relations with China, India and other BRICS members.
Everyone could be left happy by ending the war.

 

[shack]

Hate is blind too...

Good retort. I was thinking that as I was typing.

Nevertheless, you're still in a cult and don't you forget it. LOL.

 

[jazzbox]

TDS better describes a MAGA fanboy syndrome that sees them still following the guy no matter how much evidence piles up he is a corrupt, grifting felon that is in the pocket of the Russians. Most people see Trump’s gaslighting for what it but members of the cult act like abused spouses that continue to support their partners despite the abuse and the evidence of mountains of lies. It usually ends badly.

 

[oil&gas]

TDS better describes a MAGA fanboy syndrome that sees them still following the guy no matter how much evidence piles up he is a corrupt, grifting felon that is in the pocket of the Russians. Most people see Trump’s gaslighting for what it but members of the cult act like abused spouses that continue to support their partners despite the abuse and the evidence of mountains of lies. It usually ends badly.

Do 'members of the cult' include each and everyone who voted for Trump
in the last election?

 

[nottyboi]

Glad to see you show us who you really are. We believe you.

Its very funny all you "Canada is broken" types are so willing to die for it lol . In any case, yes I would not be willing to fight against a US invasion as any outcome driven by a war would me MUCH worse then a negotiated one. Only a moron would fight against a country that has 9x your population and spends 50% of your GDP on military.

 

[shack]

Do 'members of the cult' include each and everyone who voted for Trump
in the last election?

Absolutely not. Some people had different motivations for voting for him.

Maybe that question was rhetorical because it was so obvious.

 

[shack]

In any case, yes I would not be willing to fight against a US invasion as any outcome driven by a war would me MUCH worse then a negotiated one. Only a moron would fight against a country that has 9x your population and spends 50% of your GDP on military.

Once again, thank you for showing us who you really are. A traitor.

There were many Nazi collaborators in WWII. It looks like you have a job already lined up in case the US tries something.