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Trump says Mar-a-Lago home in Florida 'under siege' by FBI agents

Valcazar

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Yawn. Seen this move play, already.
So you don't have anything then?
You just used the word "leak" sloppily and you don't think obstruction should be a

Well that is interesting.
Of course, it could be that the documents found were mostly from those now-empty folders. It doesn't prove those folders used to contain material which is now missing elsewhere.
 

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So you don't have anything then?
You just used the word "leak" sloppily and you don't think obstruction should be a

Well that is interesting.
Of course, it could be that the documents found were mostly from those now-empty folders. It doesn't prove those folders used to contain material which is now missing elsewhere.
They could also simply have contained materials handed back to the DoJ in June, although one would assume that the documents would have been returned in their boxes.
 
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Ah, cult.
Thanks
I have most deplorables on ignore as reading their bs makes my eyes bleed.

But from bits and pieces that I read it seems that most of them are victims of some sort of childhood trauma in combination with various grievances.
Too many of them are blue collar/poorly educated. Do they hate others because they believe they have to work too hard and have blisters while others have “money for nothing chicks for free”?

Does any member who is a psych professional care to psychoanalyze them?
 
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Valcazar

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They could also simply have contained materials handed back to the DoJ in June, although one would assume that the documents would have been returned in their boxes.
It is possible.
All this says is that there were empty folders, it doesn't mean the contents are unaccounted for elsewhere.
 

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It is possible.
All this says is that there were empty folders, it doesn't mean the contents are unaccounted for elsewhere.
At the bare minimum it confirms that the documents were not securely stored.
Isn't that a crime of its own?
 

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Hang Trump.
Only if the charges are treason from say, emptying those folders in sale to MBS, who paid Jared $2 billion. But even so it would be the chair or injection.
Otherwise jail will do just fine.

Rule of law, you know.
 

Valcazar

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At the bare minimum it confirms that the documents were not securely stored.
Isn't that a crime of its own?
Yes.
Failing to secure these sorts of documents is crime, from what I understand.
Not a capital one, despite danmand's suggestion.
 
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Bill Barr........... what are you doing? Oops:

William Barr, on Fox, says there’s no legitimate reason for classified docs to be at Mar-a-Lago and doubts Trump declassified

Former Attorney General William Barr appeared on Fox News on Friday to say there is no “legitimate reason” for classified documents to have been at Mar-a-Lago and cast doubt in the idea that they had somehow been declassified.

“No. I can’t think of a legitimate reason why they should have been – could be taken out of government, away from the government if they are classified,” Barr said of the documents found at former President Donald Trump’s Florida resort.

“I, frankly, am skeptical of the claim that [Trump] declassified everything,” Barr added.

FILE - An aerial view of President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate is seen near dusk on Aug. 10, 2022, in Palm Beach, Fla. newly unsealed FBI document about the investigation at Mar-a-Lago not only offers new details about the probe but also reveals clues about the arguments his legal team intends to make. The May 25 letter from one of his lawyers attached as an exhibit to the affidavit advances a broad view of executive power, asserting that the commander-in-chief has absolute authority to declassify whatever he wants and that the primary law governing the handling of classified information applies to other government officials but not the president. (AP Photo/Steve Helber, File)

Mar-a-Lago search inventory shows documents marked as classified mixed with clothes, gifts, press clippings

“Because frankly, I think it’s highly improbable, and second, if in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them and said ‘I hereby declassify everything in here,’ that would be such an abuse and that shows such recklessness, it’s almost worse than taking the documents,” he said.

Barr also rejected criticism that the FBI search was in the wrong because it was “unprecedented.”

“Let me just say, I think the driver on this from the beginning was loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago. People say this [raid] was unprecedented – well, it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, okay,” Barr said.

“And how long is the government going to try to get that back? They jawboned for a year, they were deceived on the voluntary actions taken, they went and got a subpoena, they were deceived on that they feel, and the facts are starting to show that they were being jerked around,” he added. “And so how long, you know, how long do they wait?”

Asked about his stance on Trump’s request for a special master to review documents pertaining to the FBI raid at Mar-a-Lago, Barr called the idea a “red herring” and “waste of time.”

“Well, I think the whole idea of a special master is a bit of a red herring,” Barr said, adding, “at this stage, since they have already gone through the documents, I think it’s a waste of time.”

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Barr said there’s a “legitimate concern” about protecting documents that could be related to Trump’s private lawyer communications, but it does not “appear to be much of it,” and noted he’s “not sure you need a special master to identify it.”

“What people are missing is that all the other documents taken, even if they claim to be executive privilege, either belong to the government because they are government records – even if they are classified, even if they are subject to executive privilege – they still belong to the government and go to the Archives,” he added.


So to Everyone, is Bill Barr right or wrong?
 
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