I'm talking about the Jan 6 video of Trump's spliced video of him "inciting insurrection" and then the full video of it without edit...maybe you should.
Trump on Joe Rogan
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I'm thinking this story has outrun its 15 minutes of fame.
I'm sure both candidates solicit and turn down numerous venues in the course of a campaign. Why would this be any different??
OK, I'm just going to come out and say it: some Canadians are FAR too invested in what goes on in the US.
Seriously.
If anyone cares to know, I think Trump is a senile fuck-nut, but my opinion is 100 percent irrelevant because I'm Canadian, not American.
Even though I don't like Trump, let the Yanks elect him. Trump had absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever between 2016 and 2020. Or your life, I might add.
Worst thing the fat fuck did, as far as I am concerned, was to classlessly walk in front of our then-Head of State, Queen Elizabeth II, when he was at Buckingham Palace. But the guy's a stereotypical American buffoon, I expect no less.
In short, I live in Canada. I'm Canadian, not American, and I don't give one-fifth of a fuck who the Yanks elect as president. It's their country, not ours. Let them sink or swim the way they choose.
What I find pathetic are online discussions about American issues and Canadians trying to play identity politics with US politicians. I don't care which side you're on, you look foolish. It's no different than if people here were screaming at each other over who they think would make the best German chancellor.
I'm firmly of the old school that looks down on the US and Americans in general as being ungrateful colonists. I thank my British grandparents for that. There used to be a lot more of us who felt this way.
I'm making the text large, so hopefully everyone sees it.
*Mic drop.
Seriously.
If anyone cares to know, I think Trump is a senile fuck-nut, but my opinion is 100 percent irrelevant because I'm Canadian, not American.
Even though I don't like Trump, let the Yanks elect him. Trump had absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever between 2016 and 2020. Or your life, I might add.
Worst thing the fat fuck did, as far as I am concerned, was to classlessly walk in front of our then-Head of State, Queen Elizabeth II, when he was at Buckingham Palace. But the guy's a stereotypical American buffoon, I expect no less.
In short, I live in Canada. I'm Canadian, not American, and I don't give one-fifth of a fuck who the Yanks elect as president. It's their country, not ours. Let them sink or swim the way they choose.
What I find pathetic are online discussions about American issues and Canadians trying to play identity politics with US politicians. I don't care which side you're on, you look foolish. It's no different than if people here were screaming at each other over who they think would make the best German chancellor.
I'm firmly of the old school that looks down on the US and Americans in general as being ungrateful colonists. I thank my British grandparents for that. There used to be a lot more of us who felt this way.
I'm making the text large, so hopefully everyone sees it.
*Mic drop.
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Just for those who might want to watch, he goes off about political tribalism later and never gets back to the Harris question, so when that happens you can tap out if you want. (Or listen, it's a clear enough summation of his thinking about that issue.)
But yeah, again, this all just sounds like scheduling, with a bit of "who controls the environment" since he clearly likes being in his own studio with only his own people in the room.
What was an interesting tidbit that dropped in this (at least for me) is that Trump was scheduled first.
So Rogan changing his mind about Trump being on had nothing to do with Harris wanting to be on, it is just that the Harris being on thing leaked before we heard about Trump. (And again, we don't know who leaked it.)
So Rogan booked Trump, then Harris's team reached out but they couldn't agree on scheduling/logistics.
(I don't know who the English guy is who is his guest there, but he seemed to be asking reasonable questions to Rogan about the issue.)
The last eight years affected me quite a bit, actually.
But then I am an American, with American friends and family.
It's different just because of the size and importance of Rogan's podcast.
Otherwise, it is like you said - candidates solicit and turn down all kinds of venues.
These are always tradeoffs in time and energy and media buzz and so on.
It's just this much news because Rogan's big and his fan base is very loud online. (which is part of his "bigness" beyond just the raw numbers)
It's amazing, Trump turned down a second debate due to fear and that is ok but not reaching an agreement for a Joe Rogan podcast is a big sin. LOL That being said, I would have enjoyed watching her on the podcast.
Yes, I've seen both.
Saw the whole rally, in fact, not just Trump.
As people who have been here a while know, going to primary sources is important to me and I really wish more people did it.
I don't think it's a big sin. I think this late in the game there is little to gain and much to lose for her. If she had done it a few months ago I could have helped. Now it smacks of desperation. And I think the demographics of the audience wouldn't favor her, but the argument could be made a lot of not regular listeners would have tuned in. And the clips depending.
Same reason Trump turned down the debate.
So having seen it, Isn't it wrong for Kamala and the democrats including MSM on keep bringing it because it's quite obvious he didn't incite insurrection there.
People whose circumstances are materially better or worse.
People who are dead.
You know - government actually has a pretty large impact on lots of people in a country.
That's not obvious at all, actually.
If take it in a vacuum, there is no way you could convict him based on that speech alone. I certainly agree with that.
But who would be so silly as to take that speech in a vacuum?
And now maybe you can really empathize with lots of people who feel that way about Biden Harris. They just have different experiences and reasons not to be so pragmatic as you think they should be.
Every time I go the USA I talk to people. From all walks and all places. My take away has been what you said. But maybe for different reasons.
For every Covid death there is a Opiod one, or a War casualty, or a healthcare death due to lack of funds. Or a crime victim, and many other reasons. Same with economics. The nation is a harsh one.
And let's face, most of things that are problems are not caused by Washington policy. But by entrenched bureaucracy, entrenched policy and law lobbied for profits, and indifference.
When Flint Michigan gets clean water you can maybe start to convince me otherwise.
And every single one of those things is affected by who is running the government and by policy.
Which you admit in your second to last sentence.
I get it - you don't care about any of those things because they don't affect you.
You are indifferent, as you have repeatedly said.
I'm not.
Oh no, I'm quite empathetic to them. It's why I have the ability to not judge how they vote.
And worsening poverty affects my society, while other factors do as well.
But as Jill Stein recently said, how can you achieve the greater good by only voting for the lesser of two evils. And that applies to both parties.
Bingo..Her team wanted to control the interview...No way Joe was going to go that route.
He knew what they did with Bret Baier when she went on Fox.
Her team did the right thing. How the hell was she going to do a 3 hour conversation about herself, lol.
She's basically an AI candidate...There's nothing real about her at all.
