Trump on Joe Rogan

Valcazar

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So having seen it, Isn't it wrong for Kamala and the democrats including MSM on keep bringing it because it's quite obvious he didn't incite insurrection there.
That's not obvious at all, actually.
If take it in a vacuum, there is no way you could convict him based on that speech alone. I certainly agree with that.
But who would be so silly as to take that speech in a vacuum?
 
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People whose circumstances are materially better or worse.
People who are dead.
You know - government actually has a pretty large impact on lots of people in a country.
And now maybe you can really empathize with lots of people who feel that way about Biden Harris. They just have different experiences and reasons not to be so pragmatic as you think they should be.

Every time I go the USA I talk to people. From all walks and all places. My take away has been what you said. But maybe for different reasons.

For every Covid death there is a Opiod one, or a War casualty, or a healthcare death due to lack of funds. Or a crime victim, and many other reasons. Same with economics. The nation is a harsh one.

And let's face, most of things that are problems are not caused by Washington policy. But by entrenched bureaucracy, entrenched policy and law lobbied for profits, and indifference.

When Flint Michigan gets clean water you can maybe start to convince me otherwise.
 

Valcazar

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And now maybe you can really empathize with lots of people who feel that way about Biden Harris. They just have different experiences and reasons not to be so pragmatic as you think they should be.

Every time I go the USA I talk to people. From all walks and all places. My take away has been what you said. But maybe for different reasons.

For every Covid death there is a Opiod one, or a War casualty, or a healthcare death due to lack of funds. Or a crime victim, and many other reasons. Same with economics. The nation is a harsh one.

And let's face, most of things that are problems are not caused by Washington policy. But by entrenched bureaucracy, entrenched policy and law lobbied for profits, and indifference.

When Flint Michigan gets clean water you can maybe start to convince me otherwise.
And every single one of those things is affected by who is running the government and by policy.
Which you admit in your second to last sentence.

I get it - you don't care about any of those things because they don't affect you.
You are indifferent, as you have repeatedly said.

I'm not.
 

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And every single one of those things is affected by who is running the government and by policy.
Which you admit in your second to last sentence.

I get it - you don't care about any of those things because they don't affect you.
You are indifferent, as you have repeatedly said.

I'm not.
Oh no, I'm quite empathetic to them. It's why I have the ability to not judge how they vote.

And worsening poverty affects my society, while other factors do as well.

But as Jill Stein recently said, how can you achieve the greater good by only voting for the lesser of two evils. And that applies to both parties.
 

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KJP lying as usual........LMAO


JUST IN: Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden did *not* call Trump supporters garbage while responding to video footage that clearly shows Biden calling Trump supporters garbage. KJP says the video is just one big misunderstanding. KJP: “So just to clarify, he was not calling Trump supporters garbage.” Biden: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters.”
 

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More Dem cheating.....LMAO


NEW: Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says there is a “NATIONWIDE ISSUE with Dominion Voter Access Terminals,” preventing voters from making certain selections. Of course there is
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According to her office, this “programming issue” CANNOT be fixed, and voters are being forced to deal with it. Why was this “issue” not caught during the testing period? And why can’t we just use paper ballots?!
 
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In a baffling admission, CNN admits that removing noncitizens from the voter rolls in Virginia is a 'win for the Republicans': "A court divided across partisan lines, siding with Republicans." CNN admitting what we already knew: Democrats benefit, if not rely, upon fraudulent votes from noncitizens. CNN tomorrow: 'Did you know the strippers actually don't like you, they just want your money?'
 

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JUST IN: Pollster Frank Luntz says President Biden may have lost Kamala Harris the election, says his "garbage" comment is "huge." CNN: Will Biden's comments move voters? Luntz: "It's gonna be huge because this is not some comedian saying something stupid and offensive at a rally." "Trump already seized this." "The basket of deplorables was significant, was meaningful in 2016." "I can promise you that this is gonna drive Trump turnout. He's doing it already." "I'm sure there's gonna be ads on as soon as tonight about this." "This may be a turning point for that final 3 %, and that's all it is."
 
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