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Bucktee

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Poor Triumph didn't get to meet The King of Kings.


Fox News the gold standard of journalistic integrity.
Fine people with a good sense of humour. Your average American.

If Triumph had done something similar with folks standing in line for a Harris rally, he'd be berated and violently assaulted.
 
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JohnLarue

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Oh, I think Pollievre is smart on foreign policy and about politics.
I'm just not a fan of his.
Say what you want about the man, he's not dumb.

you will have two realistic choices for leader when you vote
Poilievre who you have just admitted is not dumb
or
Justin who is a proven fool
which do you choose?

now you could choose not to vote for anyone , which is your right
however if you do not exercise your extremely valuable right to participate in the democratic process , you pretty much forfeit (in my opinion) the right to criticize the outcome & you do like to critique

another option is you could vote for the BLOC but they wont be running a candidate in your riding
you could also vote for the green party, if you feel compelled to waste your vote , while still participating
you could also vote for a different fringe party (including the communist party of Canada) , if you feel compelled to waste your vote , while still participating

or (and this is a likely path for you) you could vote for Deadmeat Singh who is almost as reprehensible as Justin. Singh is quite dumb and very dishonest
Being almost as reprehensible as Justin Trudeau is a tall order
why your lot punted Tom Mulcair is a bewilderment
an NDP federal govt under Deadmeat Singh would put the survival of Canada as a country at risk.

So practically speaking, if you wish to influence policy going forward , you really have only two choices
And the only one who is not dumb as a bag of hammers is Poilievre

which do you choose?
 
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silentkisser

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We'll know by next week who was right
Well, we'll see about that. If Trump loses, no matter by how much, he'll likely claim he won, make up some bullshit about voter fraud and gum up the system with legal challenges like he did in 2020. And if I recall correctly, they didn't officially say Biden won until the Saturday after the election due to the large number of mail in votes.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Well, we'll see about that. If Trump loses, no matter by how much, he'll likely claim he won, make up some bullshit about voter fraud and gum up the system with legal challenges like he did in 2020. And if I recall correctly, they didn't officially say Biden won until the Saturday after the election due to the large number of mail in votes.
And if Trump wins you lot will whine for the next 4 years how Russia colluded with Trump
 

Addict2sex

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I always get a kick out of the debates on Piers even though Piers still licks the orange man's fat ass. He still feels he owes Trumpfart something for winning The Celebrity Apprentice.


For the record, yes I would do Emily.
I do Emily too! The best rebuttal against the leftie arguments!
 
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Valcazar

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Well, we'll see about that. If Trump loses, no matter by how much, he'll likely claim he won, make up some bullshit about voter fraud and gum up the system with legal challenges like he did in 2020. And if I recall correctly, they didn't officially say Biden won until the Saturday after the election due to the large number of mail in votes.
Yeah. We might know by the end of next week, but we might not.
The GOP has done a lot of work to make it impossible to count votes quickly, since they intend to use that to complain how the vote is being stolen.
So even in a "there is a clear and obvious winner by the vote count" situation, it probably will be several days.

If it is at all close, the GOP will extend it as long as possible with legal challenges, outright non-certification shenanigans, and so on.
(I'm not particularly expecting violence, but that's obviously on the table if they think it would help them.)
 

squeezer

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Excellent civil debate. Sam is on point and slaps Ben without leaving marks.

Trump or Kamala? Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris Debate.

 

K Douglas

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You need to separate pollsters who use proper methodology from those who don't. It's the bad ones that get elevated in the bubble.
I don't think too many pollsters were using proper methodology back in 2016 and 2020 because they were way off on a hell of a lot of shit.
 
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kherg007

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I don't think too many pollsters were using proper methodology back in 2016 and 2020 because they were way off on a hell of a lot of shit.
I don't think so on the national vote. But youre right many adjustments have been made as they weren't as tight as previously.
 
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Leimonis

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And if Trump wins you lot will whine for the next 4 years how Russia colluded with Trump
On that note I wonder how many days it would take Trump to hand Ukraine to Putin and how many months it would take him to fuck up NATO.
 

Valcazar

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I don't think too many pollsters were using proper methodology back in 2016 and 2020 because they were way off on a hell of a lot of shit.
In 2016, the overall polling aggregates were pretty good on the national side.
There was shitty state-level polling if I recall.

In 2020, the error was worse.

One of the major things has been getting the weighting right. In 2016, they didn't weight by education much, for instance, but education has become a major predictor of voting and there are some strong splits in poll response based on it.
 

K Douglas

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Polls nationally had Hillary up by 4% on aggregate in 2016. She won by 2%. I don't see that as being pretty good.
In 2020 Biden was up by 8.5% and won by 4.5%*. That's even worse.
I won't even get into the state level polling which was utterly horrendous, particularly in 2020.
 

Valcazar

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Polls nationally had Hillary up by 4% on aggregate in 2016. She won by 2%. I don't see that as being pretty good.
It's very good.
Right within the margin of error.
And about normal for polling overall, where the results tend to have an error of around 2-3 percent historically.

In 2020 Biden was up by 8.5% and won by 4.5%*. That's even worse.
I totally agree that 2020 was worse than 2016.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Supposedly the Pennsylvania Amish who rarely vote are totally pissed off with the Biden/Harris government.
They put regulations into law that werent favourable to them (I'm not sure what those regulations were though).
There's 88,000 of them in PA. It could tilt the vote towards Trump
 
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