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Trump crushes Biden in latest ABC News poll

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Joe Biden is Now Beating Donald Trump in the Majority of Polls


In the most recent of these polls, which was done by Reuters and Ipsos, the Democrat is expected to garner 41 percent of the vote share while Trump is predicted to win 37 percent of the vote. Ipsos polled 833 registered voters between April 5 and 9 in this survey.

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National polls are just consolation prizes for Democrats. Nothing matters but the swing states.
 

Butler1000

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Just wait on the social unrest. Methinks it's going to come to a head in Chicago at the DNC convention. And it's going to be 68 all over again. Once the images of Chicago cops and Illinois guardsmen busting heads hits Twitter Joe and crew will not have the answers.

The USA green lit the final assaults in exchange for Israel not attacking Iran. Just watch the chaos unfold.
 

Valcazar

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Just wait on the social unrest. Methinks it's going to come to a head in Chicago at the DNC convention. And it's going to be 68 all over again. Once the images of Chicago cops and Illinois guardsmen busting heads hits Twitter Joe and crew will not have the answers.
That's what the press really wants.
They've wanted something that exciting for decades.
(Also a brokered convention.)

Will the pro-Trump police provide them with it?
They might. I wouldn't put it past them to try (how it goes down with a very different kind of mayor in power is one of the many questions.)
The question will be if it is received by the media and the general public the same way as the police riot last time if the cops do pull it off.

The protests also just aren't the same nationally as the Vietnam in 68 situation since the US isn't at war.
Do they grow to that point by the convention? It seems unlikely, but you know there are people who really are going to try and get it there.

It can't be dismissed, though.
Starting a police riot is an easy way for the cops to help shape the narrative if they think the people will blame the protesters like happened last time.

The USA green lit the final assaults in exchange for Israel not attacking Iran. Just watch the chaos unfold.
Is this the same story Frank was pushing earlier?
 

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Is this the same story Frank was pushing earlier?
This story?

or this one?
 

Butler1000

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That's what the press really wants.
They've wanted something that exciting for decades.
(Also a brokered convention.)

Will the pro-Trump police provide them with it?
They might. I wouldn't put it past them to try (how it goes down with a very different kind of mayor in power is one of the many questions.)
The question will be if it is received by the media and the general public the same way as the police riot last time if the cops do pull it off.

The protests also just aren't the same nationally as the Vietnam in 68 situation since the US isn't at war.
Do they grow to that point by the convention? It seems unlikely, but you know there are people who really are going to try and get it there.

It can't be dismissed, though.
Starting a police riot is an easy way for the cops to help shape the narrative if they think the people will blame the protesters like happened last time.



Is this the same story Frank was pushing earlier?
Are you saying that the grassroots protests spreading across the USA on Campuses are orchestrated by the media to help Trump?

Wow! This is hilarious!

If the final push in Southern Gaza does happen and goes bad all those college Students and activists are going to go big. And they will organize via social media to descend on Chicago. And it will be Democrats demanding "order" be restored.
 

Valcazar

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This story?

or this one?
No, the one where you said that Biden made a deal that if Netanyahu didn't attack Iran he'd ok genocide in Rafah.
 

Valcazar

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Are you saying that the grassroots protests spreading across the USA on Campuses are orchestrated by the media to help Trump?
No.
What a bizarrely silly thing to believe.

If the final push in Southern Gaza does happen and goes bad all those college Students and activists are going to go big. And they will organize via social media to descend on Chicago. And it will be Democrats demanding "order" be restored.
I get that you hope that and the Chicago PD is just as happy to start a riot now as they were in 68.
 

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No, the one where you said that Biden made a deal that if Netanyahu didn't attack Iran he'd ok genocide in Rafah.
It was in that times of Israel article.
Why do you think Israel didn't push for full on war after they got Iran to respond?
That was the justification they've been waiting on for years.
Bait Iran with the embassy attack and then use the response to justify war.

Why do you think they backed down?
 

Butler1000

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No.
What a bizarrely silly thing to believe.



I get that you hope that and the Chicago PD is just as happy to start a riot now as they were in 68.
You might want to work on your communications skills.

And yes, I look forward to seeing them exposed as hypocrites again.
 

Valcazar

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It was in that times of Israel article.
Why do you think Israel didn't push for full on war after they got Iran to respond?
That was the justification they've been waiting on for years.
Bait Iran with the embassy attack and then use the response to justify war.

Why do you think they backed down?
I don't know.
There are any number of reasons.
The simplest would be that Israel didn't think it was ready to handle an escalation right now.

But yes, I was referring to the Times of Israel story since it sounds like you and Butler agree that is what happened and therefore the ground attack on Rafah must be imminent with full support of the US having been given.
 

Valcazar

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The protests are bigger already, aren't they?
Hopefully they don't get violent at all.

What?
These protest are still nowhere near as big as the Vietnam anti-war protests at their height.
Those had also gone on for years by 68.

The students in the anti-Vietnam protests were more rowdy as well, even somewhat violent.
(The real serious violence was, as now, due to the cops, though.)
 

Valcazar

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You might want to work on your communications skills.

And yes, I look forward to seeing them exposed as hypocrites again.
Not much point in working on communicating anything that doesn't fit into your narrative, Butler.
I've already learned that.

That you haven't noticed how much the political press in the US wants a brokered convention or convention riots and has for the last 20 years just shows how little attention you pay to the press.

From the hypocrites line, I assume your expectation is there will be protests and the Dems will welcome and encourage violent police action to break it up?
(I believe you even said the Illinois national guard will be involved?)
 

Butler1000

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Not much point in working on communicating anything that doesn't fit into your narrative, Butler.
I've already learned that.

That you haven't noticed how much the political press in the US wants a brokered convention or convention riots and has for the last 20 years just shows how little attention you pay to the press.

From the hypocrites line, I assume your expectation is there will be protests and the Dems will welcome and encourage violent police action to break it up?
(I believe you even said the Illinois national guard will be involved?)
I think the same will happen in Milwaukee. The GOP are already whining about security to the Secret Service.

But yes, the elite Dems won't allow the plebs and serfs to spoil their coronation
 
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