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Just wait on the social unrest. Methinks it's going to come to a head in Chicago at the DNC convention. And it's going to be 68 all over again. Once the images of Chicago cops and Illinois guardsmen busting heads hits Twitter Joe and crew will not have the answers.
The USA green lit the final assaults in exchange for Israel not attacking Iran. Just watch the chaos unfold.
The USA green lit the final assaults in exchange for Israel not attacking Iran. Just watch the chaos unfold.
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That's what the press really wants.
They've wanted something that exciting for decades.
(Also a brokered convention.)
Will the pro-Trump police provide them with it?
They might. I wouldn't put it past them to try (how it goes down with a very different kind of mayor in power is one of the many questions.)
The question will be if it is received by the media and the general public the same way as the police riot last time if the cops do pull it off.
The protests also just aren't the same nationally as the Vietnam in 68 situation since the US isn't at war.
Do they grow to that point by the convention? It seems unlikely, but you know there are people who really are going to try and get it there.
It can't be dismissed, though.
Starting a police riot is an easy way for the cops to help shape the narrative if they think the people will blame the protesters like happened last time.
Is this the same story Frank was pushing earlier?
This story?
PM shelved pre-approved plans for immediate Iran reprisal after Biden call — report
Source pledges Israel will respond to Iranian attack, though not as initially planned, since 'diplomatic sensitivities won out'; ABC says Israeli response unlikely before Passover
www.timesofisrael.com
or this one?
Israel's attack on Iran reflects badly on Biden after president's public message for Netanyahu
Joe Biden's very public message to Israel after Iran's attack was ignored, but how wise was his diplomatic directive? Israel has been ignoring the US for a few months now, as the president once again finds the limits of his influence on the Gaza conflict.
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Are you saying that the grassroots protests spreading across the USA on Campuses are orchestrated by the media to help Trump?
Wow! This is hilarious!
If the final push in Southern Gaza does happen and goes bad all those college Students and activists are going to go big. And they will organize via social media to descend on Chicago. And it will be Democrats demanding "order" be restored.
No, the one where you said that Biden made a deal that if Netanyahu didn't attack Iran he'd ok genocide in Rafah.This story?
PM shelved pre-approved plans for immediate Iran reprisal after Biden call — report
Source pledges Israel will respond to Iranian attack, though not as initially planned, since 'diplomatic sensitivities won out'; ABC says Israeli response unlikely before Passover
or this one?
Israel's attack on Iran reflects badly on Biden after president's public message for Netanyahu
Joe Biden's very public message to Israel after Iran's attack was ignored, but how wise was his diplomatic directive? Israel has been ignoring the US for a few months now, as the president once again finds the limits of his influence on the Gaza conflict.news.sky.com
No.
What a bizarrely silly thing to believe.
I get that you hope that and the Chicago PD is just as happy to start a riot now as they were in 68.
It was in that times of Israel article.
Why do you think Israel didn't push for full on war after they got Iran to respond?
That was the justification they've been waiting on for years.
Bait Iran with the embassy attack and then use the response to justify war.
Why do you think they backed down?
The protests are bigger already, aren't they?
Hopefully they don't get violent at all.
You might want to work on your communications skills.
And yes, I look forward to seeing them exposed as hypocrites again.
I don't know.
There are any number of reasons.
The simplest would be that Israel didn't think it was ready to handle an escalation right now.
But yes, I was referring to the Times of Israel story since it sounds like you and Butler agree that is what happened and therefore the ground attack on Rafah must be imminent with full support of the US having been given.
What?
These protest are still nowhere near as big as the Vietnam anti-war protests at their height.
Those had also gone on for years by 68.
The students in the anti-Vietnam protests were more rowdy as well, even somewhat violent.
(The real serious violence was, as now, due to the cops, though.)
Not much point in working on communicating anything that doesn't fit into your narrative, Butler.
I've already learned that.
That you haven't noticed how much the political press in the US wants a brokered convention or convention riots and has for the last 20 years just shows how little attention you pay to the press.
From the hypocrites line, I assume your expectation is there will be protests and the Dems will welcome and encourage violent police action to break it up?
(I believe you even said the Illinois national guard will be involved?)
I think the same will happen in Milwaukee. The GOP are already whining about security to the Secret Service.
But yes, the elite Dems won't allow the plebs and serfs to spoil their coronation
People complain about the security perimeters at both conventions every time.
Unless the cops decide to start violence, I don't expect violence.
Netanyahu wouldn't have bombed an Iranian embassy by accident or without planning for an escalation. The bigger question is why he didn't escalate it if he attacked the embassy with that in mind. The simpler explanation is that outside pressure held him back or the lack of US support for an Iranian war they can't do alone stopped him.
At this point I don't think it likely that there will be an attack on Rafah. Netanyahu has had enough time to prep if he wants to do it. I think he's more interested in being on the cusp of attacking than actually attacking. Selling his government that they have to stand with him because it will happen while also realizing there is nothing to gain from a military advantage and much to lose of what's left of Israel's standing if they attack.
Right.
He couldn't handle an escalation at this time because the support he hoped for wasn't there.
That is completely different from "The US gave him a green light on Rafah if he doesn't escalate".
You do see that, don't you?
Interesting.
So you think that Bibi is rejecting Joe Biden's green light to ground invade Rafah?
Bibi is less "pro-genocide" than Joe Biden now?
Or have you completely given up on the "Joe Biden gave Bibi the green light" theory?
This is all starting to sound dangerously close to the idea that Israel is actually making its own choices about what Israel can do, and isn't a puppet of "Genocide Joe", who is single-handedly responsible for the death of all the Palestinians, if I recall your earlier rhetoric.
