The day after Mueller testified at congress about Trump and his Russian connections and electoral interference, Trump called Ukraine and asked them to interfere in US politics again to attack Biden.
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AOC nails it.
Trump’s promise to foreign leader prompts whistleblower complaint – report
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The liberals in America are a funny bunch. I watched Maher's take on his show on the Ukraine thing. He stood in front of his audience and told them half of the story. I'm pretty sure the he knows the rest of it and that his audience can find it out, too. Yet, he still stuck with it. His take on Trudeau was just as fractional. It was like the panel discussions I used to watch all those years ago, behind the Iron Curtain. The panelists knew that they were talking shit (as most later admitted) right out of their asses, but talking sense meant unemployment.
Well here is the full story:
Donald Trump in conjunction with his surrogate has been abusing with corrupt intent the immense and powerful, but not constitutionally unlimited, Office of the President of the USA to co-opt, force, blackmail a foreign government in a quid pro quo, to fabricate dirt on a domestic political rival for his political and personal benefit.
I'm still not sure how anyone can immediately dismiss Biden's enormous conflict of interest in dealing with the Ukraine. Hunter Biden has no gas/oil experience and yet he was paid a whole lot of money to sit on the board of this Ukrainian gas company.
Some of the posters along with much of the media want to separate the two issues. Trump's involvement and Biden's conflict of interest.
The coverage of Trump's alleged indiscretion could bite Biden in the ass.
Some of the posters along with much of the media want to separate the two issues. Trump's involvement and Biden's conflict of interest.
The coverage of Trump's alleged indiscretion could bite Biden in the ass.
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Actually it was Biden who employed quid pro quo- he's on record bragging about it, you know. I guess that the Constitution, powers of the Office, laws only apply to the individuals who represent the "correct" party.
Typical left slight of hand, misdirection. Nothing to see here about Biden's son, it's all about Trump's evil doings.
If there was anything wrong with Biden's actions, sure investigate it.
But we also know that Trump's attempt to get a foreign government to interfere with US elections again were wrong and he should be investigated and/or impeached.
You are as usual factually wrong. Biden did brag about causing the ouster of the then prosecutor because he was not doing enough to combat corruption. But as usual you just repeat and adopt the spin of the Chosen One and his lackeys. You are the demographic he and they are speaking to because you are too dumb and gullible to look at objective facts and reality as opposed to alternative facts. And yes I agree to it is likely that the only reason hunter Biden got the job was because of his last name. Now produce some evidence that he of JB did anything wrong. While you are at it try and find some evidence as to why those military jets and Pence kept stopping at Prestwick or why Comcast and the Saudi government keeps renting rooms at Trump hotels whether or not they need them.
Not only is he as are others in this thread factually incorrect he and they are following goosestep by goosestep from the Trump and Friends playbook of denial, deflection, obfuscation, deception, conflation, outright lies, coverup and 'pin the crime not on our donkey ass of a leader'.
The Whistle Blower statute is clear. The Trump Administration is willfully acting in direct violation of it. Acting unethically and unlawfully is and has been the hallmark of this administration and it's leader.
Attempting to conflate lawful American executive branch policies and actions in conjunction with other European governments lawful actions in 2014 to persuade the Ukrainian government to take concrete steps to address endemic and broad based corruption in exchange for financial aid with .....
Unlawful attempts with corrupt intent by Trump and his surrogate employing the power of the Office of the POTUS in 2019 to coerce, force, extort, blackmail the government of Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden in a quid pro quo to benefit himself both politically and personally.
Executive privilege cannot be lawfully claimed for acts that are considered a gross abuse of power and corruption.
The law clearly states that the IG whistle blower complaint SHALL be forwarded to the House and Senate committees. Trump and his administration led by AG Barr are once again flouting and stomping on the laws that they are sworn to uphold.
Release the report and the transcript of the phone calls and let the American people decide if their President is a crook.
"Trump's alleged INDISCRETION ..."?
Is that what you call it?
A minor faux pas, a trifling, a no harm, no foul trivial lil boo boo?
You should be beseeching your naughty lil', "oops I did it again, was that wrong, should I not have done that", Donnie-boy to do such.
Trump now states that he "hopes" that the full text of this conversation could be released. Not so long ago he stated that he "will" release his tax returns after the election.
So no doubt this "hope" will take years or decades to be released. Now his cult followers are making excuses galore about this whole issue and as usual echoing their cult leader's "Democrat Witch Hunt" rant!!
Trump admits that YES he did discuss investigating his political rival Biden with the Ukrainian president.
The Ukrainian government states that YES they did feel pressured by Trump and Giuliani investigate Biden.
What possible leverage could Trump and his surrogate have possibly employed to pressure, coerce, force, extort and/or blackmail Ukraine?
Is Rudolph The Red Nosed Giuliani acting as an official of the Administration or is he acting on behalf of Donald "Ordinary Joe Corrupt Citizen" Trump, ?
Is it the Administration's Foreign policy and it's national security interests and goals to link military aid to Ukraine with investigating Trump's main political rival Biden, or is it crooked Donald Trump's political and personal policy to do so?
The Ukrainian government states that YES they did feel pressured by Trump and Giuliani investigate Biden.
What possible leverage could Trump and his surrogate have possibly employed to pressure, coerce, force, extort and/or blackmail Ukraine?
Is Rudolph The Red Nosed Giuliani acting as an official of the Administration or is he acting on behalf of Donald "Ordinary Joe Corrupt Citizen" Trump, ?
Is it the Administration's Foreign policy and it's national security interests and goals to link military aid to Ukraine with investigating Trump's main political rival Biden, or is it crooked Donald Trump's political and personal policy to do so?
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How convenient to fire the prosecutor who was investigating a company channeling 88k/month to your son and had him on its board. Pure coincidence, I'm sure. I'm not sure who's more pathetic, anyone who believe that or anyone defending it?
Talkingh about convenience you left out a few convenient detail. 1. There was no investigation of HB when the prosecutor was fired and 2. Ukraine's prosecutor general has said there was no evidence of wrongdoing against either Biden. The Chosen One on the other hand was holding back desperately need aid from Ukraine and asking for dirt of HB and JB. I don't think you are too swift but even you can connect those dots.
LOL! It went from under investigation to investigation on the back burner to pending investigate to, finally, no investigation. One begins to wonder if junior was even there.
Actually Im not sure who's more pathetic these days, Trump or the people still trying to defend him
Try and deal with objective facts and not alternative facts and conspiracy theories. HB was not under investigation when the prosecutor was fired and he was fired for NOT investigating corruption. One begins to wonder if you and your fellow Trumpanistas have any capacity to deal with objective facts.
It went from:
1) "I had a perfect and beauuuuutiful phone call with the President of Ukraine."
2) "I did not bring up the Bidens during that phone call"
3) "Okay I did briefly mention Biden, but I did not request the Ukraine investigate him."
4) "Okay, I did ask that they investigate Biden but there was no quid pro quo."
5) "Okay I did mention the military funding that I was holding up because they were not investigating Biden, but that is perfectly legal"
6) "Everybody does it. It's called opposition research."
7) "Witch hunt"
8) "The phone call was strictly about Ukrainian adoption. "
