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Trudeau harming relations between India and Canada?

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This is the clandestine Indian group that is operating in Canada and is considered to be dangerous in the manner in which they are either extorting money or acting in a violent manner:

Singh instead called for the government to levy “impose severe and strict sanctions” against India’s diplomats who authorities deem to be involved and called for the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh Network to be prohibited from operating in Canada.
 

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Harper and the IDU have been courting Modi.
PeePee used Indian support to cheat his nomination process and gain the leadership of the cons.
Trudeau testifies under oath that several cons are working with India against Canadian interests while PeePee still won't say why he won't or can't get security clearance.

Its time to start the PeePee/head of lettuce countdown.
 

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Trudeau testifies under oath that several cons are working with India against Canadian interests while PeePee still won't say why he won't or can't get security clearance.
This is why I think it is a tactic to try and tarnish Pierre's election campaign by implying that he is in cahoots with a foreign nation.
India is also right wing and have bad relations with Trudeau.
It would be natural for them to prefer and support Pierre.
 
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This is the clandestine Indian group that is operating in Canada and is considered to be dangerous in the manner in which they are either extorting money or acting in a violent manner:
I was looking for their name since yesterday. Thanks.
This group should be banned along with the Sikh extremist group.
 

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India is right that Canada should not allow former refugees turned citizens to use Canada as a safe haven to continue their campaign against India.
They are separatists, just like the PQ. Last I checked that wasn't illegal. And that's the whole point of being a refugee claimant. To have safe harbour from a government that wants to kill you for your values. These people aren't terrorists or criminals. They are political refugees.
 

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This is why I think it is a tactic to try and tarnish Pierre's election campaign by implying that he is in cahoots with a foreign nation.
India is also right wing and have bad relations with Trudeau.
It would be natural for them to prefer and support Pierre.
Its not implying, its stating under oath that Trudeau read the CSIS intel and says they name conservatives in cahoots with a foreign nation.
That's directly related to PeePee refusing to get security clearance.

This should be a career ending scandal for PeePee.
 

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I don't know what he did.
But I know the group attacked the Indian consulate. It was in the news. That is illegal.
The assassination if it happened is wrong but that is still an allegation at this point.
Overall feels we are in the same spot as last time and Trudeau is attempting to distract.
Look, as I said, some of the timing with the release of information is interesting. But, first, are you talking about the Indian Consulate in San Francisco? That still doesn't warrant a death sentence....and I don't believe the dude who was killed took part in that. And yes, that is illegal...

I agree, these are allegations against India...but let's face a fact here, the US thwarted an assassination attempt in the summer, and it had very similar goals and targets of the on in BC....and the apparent blessing of India's security service. Do you think the US is lying about it? Do you think it is impossible that India hired someone to execute a Canadian citizen? Would you be as sceptical of this if it was a Russian dissident being killed in Canada?
 

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Look, as I said, some of the timing with the release of information is interesting. But, first, are you talking about the Indian Consulate in San Francisco? That still doesn't warrant a death sentence....and I don't believe the dude who was killed took part in that. And yes, that is illegal...

I agree, these are allegations against India...but let's face a fact here, the US thwarted an assassination attempt in the summer, and it had very similar goals and targets of the on in BC....and the apparent blessing of India's security service. Do you think the US is lying about it? Do you think it is impossible that India hired someone to execute a Canadian citizen? Would you be as sceptical of this if it was a Russian dissident being killed in Canada?
What I believe is that both Canada and India have some valid points.
They shouldn't be acting here and we should not be allowing refugees to use Canada as a safe haven for their transnational campaigns.
Trudeau's timing on this seems like an attack on Pierre.
 
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They are separatists, just like the PQ. Last I checked that wasn't illegal. And that's the whole point of being a refugee claimant. To have safe harbour from a government that wants to kill you for your values. These people aren't terrorists or criminals. They are political refugees.
These people bombed a plane and killed Canadians.
How is that not terrorism?
If they stopped with advocacy no problem.
The allegation seems to be that they engaged in domestic and cross border criminal activity.
 
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Its not implying, its stating under oath that Trudeau read the CSIS intel and says they name conservatives in cahoots with a foreign nation.
That's directly related to PeePee refusing to get security clearance.

This should be a career ending scandal for PeePee.
Trudeau could be lying.
Does he have evidence for his allegations against Pierre.
 
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These people bombed a plane and killed Canadians.
How is that not terrorism?
If they stopped with advocacy no problem.
The allegation seems to be that they engaged in domestic and cross border criminal activity.
A foreign nation assassinated a Canadian on Canadian soil. That is a line too far, even if you think they had cause. It is a violation of international law and our laws.

You either support our charter of rights and international law, or you don't.

You just seem to be making excuses because it suits your needs and narrative.
 

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What I believe is that both Canada and India have some valid points.
They shouldn't be acting here and we should not be allowing refugees to use Canada as a safe haven for their transnational campaigns.
Trudeau's timing on this seems like an attack on Pierre.
Refugees? The man was a Canadian citizen. He immigrated and attained his citizenship. He was not a terrorist. He was not doing anything that broke Canadian law.

And, what are India's valid points? That he angered them and deserved to be assassinated??? Look, I am not a Trudeau fan by any stretch. But saying this is not a major incident because he's saying it is just makes you look foolish.

As for PP, he can stand on his own. I think Trudeau dropping the gauntlet about security clearance is valid. I mean, PP likes to spew stuff, but not having the ability to review the actual files bothers me. I understand that he wouldn't be able to slam the government with innuendo, but he should review things.
 
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Trudeau could be lying.
Does he have evidence for his allegations against Pierre.
Trudeau says he read the CSIS reports and made his statement under oath.
If he's lying he can go to jail.

PeePee is clearly lying when he says he's not implicated.
He doesn't have the clearance to read those reports and anyone who shares that info with him is liable to charged themselves.
 

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Refugees? The man was a Canadian citizen. He immigrated and attained his citizenship.
The story goes that he applied for refugee status in the 90s and was denied.
Then he was denied a 2nd time due to fraud.
Then eventually became citizen in 2007.
You are painting him as if he was a law abiding good citizen of Canada.
He was not. If he was so good why did he allegedly lead a militant group in Canada? Is that not illegal?
That doesn't mean India gets a license to kill but there are 3 sides to every story.
Trudeau's motives here are questionable.
 

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"Trust me bro because we are Canadian" is not a good argument.
What is Trudeau not saying?
You got to bear in mind that Modi is behaving more like an autocratic ruler. This evidence that The RCMP have on their investigation will link the involvement of those at the top of the chain as far as The Indian Govt is involved. The Modi Govt has clamped down on the free press in India.


So why does Modi not want to co-operate when Canada are duly willing to share the evidence?
 
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