Treason

[SkyRider]

Ok, I'm confused. When is treason treason and when is treason not treason?

!) Can a minor ever legally commit treason? Or, only adults?

2) Is it treason when an adult Canadian leaves Canada to join ISIS to shoot at Canadian forces in Iraq?

3) If Canada is ever attacked by Swobia, is it treason if a dual Swobian-Canadian leaves Canada to join the Swobia armed forces in its unwarranted war against Canada?

 

[Sexy_Dave]

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/s...inst_the_Queen_s_Authority_and_Person__166367

 

[nobody123]

Not sure about Canada, but I know that in the States if you expose an unfettered and massive surveillance programme that targets American citizens that haven't been accused of any crimes, it is treason. But if you knowingly lead the country into war on false pretenses, it's all good.

 

[nuprin001]

Ok, I'm confused. When is treason treason and when is treason not treason?

!) Can a minor ever legally commit treason? Or, only adults?

Only adults. But children, under certain circumstances and in certain jurisdictions, can be charged as adults.

2) Is it treason when an adult Canadian leaves Canada to join ISIS to shoot at Canadian forces in Iraq?

Theoretically, yes. That doesn't mean they'll be necessarily charged with treason, but it's possible that they would be.

3) If Canada is ever attacked by Swobia, is it treason if a dual Swobian-Canadian leaves Canada to join the Swobia armed forces in its unwarranted war against Canada?

Again, theoretically yes. A lot would depend on the circumstances and the zealousness of the prosecutor. I don't know about Canada, but there's the theory that every American commits three felonies (not misdemeanors: FELONIES) a day, doing normal everyday things. Not because the US is a nation of lawbreakers, but because there are laws written on laws written on laws. If a prosecutor really wanted to nail you, they probably could. Obviously, treason is a big deal but that gives you an idea of what prosecutors and the legal system go through.

Not sure about Canada, but I know that in the States if you expose an unfettered and massive surveillance programme that targets American citizens that haven't been accused of any crimes, it is treason. But if you knowingly lead the country into war on false pretenses, it's all good.

You left out the part where the person in question deliberately sought out a job where as a condition of employment they took on the extra responsibility of not disclosing that information. That ups the ante in that situation. I respect the information disclosed by Snowden. He should also be prosecuted for doing so.

 

[asuran]

Well, if you lost the fight it may or may not be called treason. If you win, it's a revolution.

 

[Boss Nass]

Treason is a matter of dates. - Charles Maurice de Talleyrand

 

[doggee_01]

hang em high!!!!

 

[SkyRider]

Well, if you lost the fight it may or may not be called treason. If you win, it's a revolution.

Such is reality. The Americans won their revolution so they are not traitors.In Canada, Louis Riel lost his revolt so the Conservatives hanged himIn the U.S., the Rosenbergs were convicted of treason and executed. On the other hand, "Tokyo Rose" was hailed a hero later in life. Go figure.

 

[Boss Nass]

On the other hand, "Tokyo Rose" was hailed a hero later in life. Go figure.

No, she was merely pardoned. And there was no specific 'Tokyo Rose', it was a name attached to many broadcasters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Rose

 

[oldjones]

No, she was merely pardoned. And there was no specific 'Tokyo Rose', it was a name attached to many broadcasters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Rose

While it's perhaps going a bit far to say the particular Tokyo Rose who was pardoned "…was hailed as a hero", The Washington DC Memorial Day Parade of 2006 honoured her personally, because the unwarranted coercion and hardship she had endured in Japan during the war, and after it, the unjustified prosecution and punishment she received at home, had not quenched her patriotism.

Like many of the interned Japanese-Americans (none of them dual-nationals, she did better by her country in time of war than it did by her.

Treason was one of the last crimes Canada retained the death penalty for, it's not some fly-swatter paper you slap children or conflicted adolescents with on technicalities. If they really did take up arms against our forces, they'll get shot reliably enough under the ordinary usages and customs of war.