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It isn't.
You go to a hospital they will treat trans women as women.
Legally they are treated as such.
Their rights are protected by law.
Socially, they are considered women and they can use women's washrooms and change rooms.
Even Juan here finds them sexually attractive.
Seeing a really beautiful and feminine trans woman still seems to elicit the same feelings in him as it does when he sees a hot cis woman.
Those are pretty much all encompassing.
Our society is sensitive to individual differences and mental health.

All law-abiding people deserve legal protection and to be treated with dignity.

By the same token, a man cannot become a woman and vice versa. That's just a fact of life.

But in some circles, to say this would mean losing one's livelihood, so people play along with whatever woke nonsense is the spice of the day.

Everyone has bills to pay and mouths to feed.
 
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who knew that a Monty Python sketch

would become an official ideology of woke progressives :)
 

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Outside of the West, how many nations and scientists in those nations are on the trans gender train?

Can you name one?

This is a very recent Western phenomenon (a largely North American one, at that - propped up by "social scientists"), and it's nowhere near universally accepted here let alone anywhere else in the world.

Don't let myopia and Western media hegemony fool you.
 
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Outside of the West, how many nations and scientists in those nations are on the trans gender train?
in Muslim countries for example, not that many

as a matter of fact there are very few men there who identify as women

they would have to wear a hijab, that's no fun

they rather wear high heels in the west
 

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We dealt with intersex earlier in the thread. Yes, there are individuals who have characteristics of both sexes.

This thread isn't about the .0018% of the population that are intersex. That's a different topic altogether.

We're addressing the other half, or should I say, 99.992% of the population.
The ratio of transgender in the population is roughly the same size as people with red hair.
Does that mean you also think red hair doesn't exist?
 
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We're in the midst of a cultural zeitgeist that has taken hold rapidly in the West, because of political forces and the ubiquity of social media.

Your trans gender ideology is part of that zeitgeist.
Cultural zeitgeist, yes.
Trans ideology or politics, no.
It has been made into politics and an ideological war by the right wing.
But trans people exist, as they always did.
Hence why most people are on board to support their fellow citizens and their rights.
But if you are thinking that someone authoritarian is going to come to power and take steps to turn the clock back to the 1960s, then you are going to be dissappointed.
It is not even going to be true in the US where Trump's EOs on trans people have been blocked in court.
They said the same with gay people back in the day.
Now even you are ready to accept gay rights as the norm.
Trans people will get there eventually.
 

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All law-abiding people deserve legal protection and to be treated with dignity.
By the same token, a man cannot become a woman and vice versa. That's just a fact of life.
Yes. Hence the anti-discriminatory laws that protect trans people as they are a marginalized group.
And men are not becoming women. So that is not reality and hence a non-issue.
 

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Outside of the West, how many nations and scientists in those nations are on the trans gender train?

Can you name one?
Are you saying we should follow the examples of socially backward third world nations?
The west being more educated and informed leads the world in social reform and the rest of the world follows.
 

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Most people of all political stripes do NOT want trans women (men) in women's sports and spaces.
If this were true there wouldn't be trans women in sports.
As you saw even in conservative USA, many schools have defied Trump's EO to exclude trans athletes from their women's sports teams.
So clearly this is not a true statement.
What you are imagining and the reality of the situation out there aren't in alignment.
 
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Are you saying we should follow the examples of socially backward third world nations?
On this issue, the world was in agreement until a few years ago. We needn't follow anyone but our own informed educated populace instead of kowtowing to a loud radical minority.

The west being more educated and informed leads the world in social reform and the rest of the world follows.
Men in women's spaces, DEI, and censorship and are not positive social reforms. They're illiberal and socially backwards.
 
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It must suck to be MAGA, this is the last issue they seem to think they are winning on.
But beating up on trans, who are likely the smallest and least likely demographic to use violence, is such a pathetic victory.
 
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It must suck to be MAGA, this is the last issue they seem to think they are winning on.
But beating up on trans, who are likely the smallest and least likely demographic to use violence, is such a pathetic victory.
They are not even winning.
The EOs are blocked and we are in Canada where trans rights are protected by law.
 

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In my world and more importantly in Trump's world. Women born with Vaginas, compete in women's sports, and men born with Penis' compete in men's sports. That's it. Very simple to understand!!

Transgender women, according to Trump can compete in men's sports if they want to, or start there own transgender category if they want to. What transgender athletes can't do, is to compete in women's sports!!
I can't see a whole lot of corporations trying to outbid each other to sponsor Trans women's sports. Certainly not Bud Lite. IKEA might.
 
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The ratio of transgender in the population is roughly the same size as people with red hair.
Does that mean you also think red hair doesn't exist?
Can you vouch for the safety of Transgenders to do a parade in the middle East outside of Israel franky? Iran,Yemen or West Bank perhaps? asking for a friend...
 
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