Toxic masculinity
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Oh I never said you were postings are a bad thing, the complete opposite, I find them highly entertaining and your knowledge of movies is quite extensive and I actually look forward to them because our tastes seem to run along the same lines. The trouble with me and movies is I am so bored with comic book franchises and sequels along with having the attention span of a 4 year old, I find myself watching maybe 2 movies a year so I tend to stray towards independent and foreign language things.
Understood, no harm done.
On average I watch 7 films a year at the theatre. I took a group to watch Ford vs Ferrari and was thoroughly entertained. Although I still rate Rush as the better film: Carol Shelby and Kevin Miles are before my time while Nikki Lauda and James Hunt are products of my late teens. Jason and The Argonauts was on TCM, I've seen that film countless times. I watched part of it before going to bed - Talos kicking ass never gets old.
Despite all the hyperbole about toxic masculinity, the apex leading man is still central to a film's success at the box office. That's why Liev Schreiber and Tom Hardy are so in demand at the moment. Liev has a new film coming out with Marisa Tomei and Maya Hawke called Human Capital. It's an English language remake of an Italian film from 2014. I just downloaded the Italian version, haven't watched it yet.
Well Frozen 2 was a boring movie. The political message was not for little kids and parents were left wondering WTF!! Because again the evil white man in power betrayed the local population, making the minority officer fight a war they believe to be righteous, only to have the day saved by two sisters, while the boys in the reindeer, came up with a plan to propose etc etc...
And only until the last minute did boy in reindeer show up to assist female character to where she was going so she could save the day.
Well another waste of a possible good movie, the only good part this time there won't be any songs that will be kept singing on and on....
And only until the last minute did boy in reindeer show up to assist female character to where she was going so she could save the day.
Well another waste of a possible good movie, the only good part this time there won't be any songs that will be kept singing on and on....
Early reviews of Richard Jewell have the film at 81% Fresh, that's higher than Frozen II at 75%.
Paul Walter Hauser is a stand up comic who's transitioned into films, Richard Jewell is his third credit. His others are BlacKKKlansman and I Tonya.
Paul Walter Hauser is a stand up comic who's transitioned into films, Richard Jewell is his third credit. His others are BlacKKKlansman and I Tonya.
How are we being "force fed" this agenda exactly? You don't have to watch such movies, TV shows, etc. and people clearly did. There is more choice than there ever was before where you can call up just about any movie, tv show, music, etc. from your phone.
Exactly thank you!! No one in any democratic society is being force fed any media, so these right wing complainers who are especially filling YouTube are just plain annoying. We are free to choose what media and art we consume, I personally hate rom coms and animated talking animals movies .so I just avoid them. Now you wanna discuss the quality and how most movies made are comic books, franchises or ones made in a board meeting by financial experts instead of creative directors, that's a whole other discussion.
I'd say that people who spent 20+ dollars to see The Last Jedi in the theatre were kind of force fed the agenda. You don't want to walk out because you paid to see it. But if you'd known ahead of time you'd never have gone in the first place
What did you expect, Shit Wars is an empty franchise about a Civil War without end. Disney is milking it for every last penny.
Rian Johnson, who directed the crap, will have the last laugh.
If you want to see a film with a strong female character, without an agenda, this is it. Canadian film shot in Casa Loma with talented Canadian actors fronted by the wonderful Samara Weaving.
Not sure why this lesson hasn't sunk in yet, but...don't take existing franchises and change what makes them what they are to match modern, progressive sensibilities. It's why I'm worried about the Bond franchise after this next movie. Are they going to steer away from those stereotypical male personality traits that make Bond who he is? Will he no longer be a charming womanizer? Will he even be a "he"?
Same goes for Charlie's Angels. It was a male-targetted franchise about hot women kicking butt somewhat cheesily, and yes with some very cringey themes and dialogue. They completely revamped what the franchise was, but stuck it with the same label, and expected everyone to applaud? Nope.
If you want to make a movie, or franchise, with modern, progressive sensibilities, have at it. Just don't co-opt an existing franchise and act surprised when people are upset about how you changed fundamentally what those franchises are.
Same goes for Charlie's Angels. It was a male-targetted franchise about hot women kicking butt somewhat cheesily, and yes with some very cringey themes and dialogue. They completely revamped what the franchise was, but stuck it with the same label, and expected everyone to applaud? Nope.
If you want to make a movie, or franchise, with modern, progressive sensibilities, have at it. Just don't co-opt an existing franchise and act surprised when people are upset about how you changed fundamentally what those franchises are.
Except that in this case it's the toxic feminist going on a tantrum, blaming men for not going to the movies to watch it.
The fact of the matter is simple, Men are tired of being blamed for every thing, I was one of Trump's biggest haters, now with CNN and the left doing nothing but shit on the guy all the time, I am actually starting to like him and I hope he wins the next election. Because the Liberals have gone crazy, it's either you like all the shit that comes out of our mouth or you are against us. The left no longer allows for difference of opinions, and also this cancel society is fucking pathetic. People fuck up, we all fuck up and make mistakes, that's what makes us human. But then there is a part of us that learns from the mistakes and we become better. Canceling people without letting them become better is just plain stupid, because everyone has a skeleton in the closet.
Oh really? So people are strapped into their chairs with their eye lids taped open?
I guess that means people have never walked out on movies or changed the channel for things they don't want to see before 2019 right?
It's just a matter of time before they bring back updated versions of classic tv shows like Married With Children. Al Bundy will no longer be a red blooded American who despises his life, his wife, his slutty daughter, his insolent son, and fat chicks. He won't even like football. He'll be the creation of a sick "progressive" mind that nobody can relate to, yet we'll be told that we're bigots for not tuning in.
Here's a tiny bit of perspective. We're talking about a movie that deservedly bombed badly. Not the first lousy movie and certainly not the last. If you don't like such movies, books, tv shows, etc then don't watch them. Better yet, learn to make films yourself. There is a huge collection of courses online that can teach you to do just that.
If men are taking personal offence to something so small and are using it for political purposes then they deserve the hate.
Exactly my view also, Star Wars is a franchise that needs to die, maybe wait around for 20 years and then be revived. Notice how when Disney bought the rights they were all gung ho about releasing a movie every year, only to realise if you're producing crap (Solo movie)no one is going to pay and now they have backed off.
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At this point in time I think pretty much that as Jordan Peterson calls them, the pathological left, is fuelling the support for Trump.
People are just fed up with their ideology and methods. It started out well meaning and progressive but now is out of hand.
And yet none of you neocons utter a peep about dudes in khakis with torches screaming "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil" while right wing extremist attacks especially of the anti Semitic type have sky rocketed, but keep crying about how the left is out to get you.
Completely revamping the franchise would be casting the film with all males and turning it into a serious drama. What they did was the complete opposite of revamping.
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