Toxic masculinity

[Insidious Von]

If the storyline is strong and the actor sells it being woke is irrelevant.

Watchmen has been a series of layers so far, E5 is Looking Glass's origin story, tying in with Ozymandias executing his master plan at the end of the movie. In the previous episodes Looking Glass has been intrepid and invulnerable, now he gets caught with his pants down.

And now they have a counterpoint to Silk Specter. Ms Malcolmson came in and she sold it, like Junior Soprano may have said, "she sold it and she's respected". After watching her play the long suffering Abby in Ray Donovan, she has a character that's in control who makes others suffer. I want more, can't wait to see her character arc in future episodes. E5 got a 9.3 rating, the highest of any episode so far - the incels and the racists have been silenced.

Goodbye Abby, hello Renee...whoever you are?

 

[Grimnul]

If the storyline is strong and the actor sells it being woke is irrelevant.

Watchmen has been a series of layers so far, E5 is Looking Glass's origin story, tying in with Ozymandias executing his master plan at the end of the movie. In the previous episodes Looking Glass has been intrepid and invulnerable, now he gets caught with his pants down.

And now they have a counterpoint to Silk Specter. Ms Malcolmson came in and she sold it, like Junior Soprano may have said, "she sold it and she's respected". After watching her play the long suffering Abby in Ray Donovan, she has a character that's in control who makes others suffer. I want more, can't wait to see her character arc in future episodes. E5 got a 9.3 rating, the highest of any episode so far - the incels and the racists have been silenced.

Goodbye Abby, hello Renee...whoever you are?

I have to say, I’m really liking Watchmen so far. Quick correction, though: it’s not related to the movie. The movie changed Ozymandias’ plot into using Dr. Manhattan’s power to nuke NYC. The series goes with the far more bizarre and interesting graphic novel plot of the giant interdimensional psychic squid creature. Let the incels and the racists fume all they want, they’re irrelevant. The show’s pretty good.

 

[The Oracle]

If Eastwood sticks to the story, which is compelling enough, and doesn't politicize it, I seriously doubt it will be panned on Rotten Tomatoes. Jewell was a flawed man who became a convenient scapegoat when the Atlanta police couldn't make a quick arrest.

They panned Joker didn't they. Christ it had a 0% rating when it first came out,lol......Wonder why that was. Could it be because it didn't really reflect the left in a positive light. Even now there's quite a discrepancy between the critics rating and the audiences. Sometimes there's a gap on there but that much.

 

[Insidious Von]

When you think of toxic masculinity, wouldn't Liev Schreiber fit that bill?

He defies convention, I hope Ray Donovan starts soon. It's been delayed with Schreiber getting a few more films under his belt. In Human Capital he has Marisa Tomai and Maya Hawke...I still haven't activated Netflix yet, have yet to see Stranger Things. All I have is 5 minutes of Tarantino's Once Upon A Time in Hollywood to judge if she can act. The film has a high rating from pre-screenings. It's based on a 2014 Italian drama.

 

[Insidious Von]

They panned Joker didn't they. Christ it had a 0% rating when it first came out,lol......Wonder why that was. Could it be because it didn't really reflect the left in a positive light. Even now there's quite a discrepancy between the critics rating and the audiences. Sometimes there's a gap on there but that much.

Oracle, are you finished?

Joker never got a 0% rating when it first came out, the critics that did pan it said it relied too heavily on Martin Scorsese. They sort of have a point, Robert De Niro is playing Rupert Pupkin as an established talk show host...and he was perfect! And the scene between Joker and Paper Boi (Atlanta) was priceless, I want to see the full scene in a Director's Cut. So far there hasn't been any pre-screenings of Richard Jewell, I'll be there opening night.

Ford vs Ferrari was great...but not as good as Rush.

 

[Grimnul]

Oracle does have a point that there seems to be a growing disparity between critics and audiences, though. The Last Jedi is a good example. The critics on Rotten Tomatoes have it at 91%. The audience says 44%. Despite Rian Johnson’s assertion that Russian trolls are influencing the audience scores, there are plenty of very good, reasonable (ie. not from incels) pieces explaining exactly why it’s a bad movie. This is the problem. We have this narrative now where studios and critics just dismiss any criticism of a movie by saying it’s all trolls/incels/racists, and it’s simply not true. The fact is, incels simply aren’t that powerful. They’re a convenient scapegoat, but their influence is vastly overstated. This needs to stop. Hollywood makes films for us, we’re in charge. This trend of shitting out whatever then telling us we’re wrong and/or bigots for disliking us is very troubling and insulting.

 

[The Oracle]

, I hope Ray Donovan starts soon.

The first episode is already out. Toxic masculinity is thus defined by adherence to traditional male gender roles that restrict the kinds of emotions allowable for boys and men to express, including social expectations that men seek to be dominant (the "alpha male") and limit their emotional range primarily to expressions of anger. This is just more progressive jargon to make men look bad.

Oracle, are you finished?

Joker never got a 0% rating when it first came out, the critics that did pan it said it relied too heavily on Martin Scorsese. They sort of have a point, Robert De Niro is playing Rupert Pupkin as an established talk show host...and he was perfect! And the scene between Joker and Paper Boi (Atlanta) was priceless, I want to see the full scene in a Director's Cut. So far there hasn't been any pre-screenings of Richard Jewell, I'll be there opening night.

The first week it was released it had a 0% rating of that site. Not only did I see it but it was being reported on conservative news sources. Of course MSM didn't cover it,lol. Now I'm finished.

 

[explorerzip]

This is the trend in Hollywood these days, every crap movie that stars a female and bombs is somehow linked to sexists and toxic masculinity. This is like the fatty blaming Mcdonalds for being one, how about trying to do interesting movies, with great characters and writing. Or how about something original and not a comic book or the continuation of a franchise? Dudes had zero issues shelling out money for the Terminator, Alien and Wonder Woman movies because those were tough women placed into bad situations and had to survive, there was never the in your face "WOKE" nonsense you are bombarded with today, anyone want to see a horrific example just watch 2 minutes of the CW's Batwoman with that skinny supermodel Ruby Rose or whatever her name is.

Actually, the trend has been to play it safe with movies and that's been going on for decades. So it's safer for them to make remakes, sequels, driving movies, super hero movies, rom-coms, etc. vs coming up with something truly original. Banks just followed the same template that everyone else used in rebooting a series no one was that found of. If she really wanted to be all "woke" she should have cast the main characters as gay guys or transgenders.

Off the top of my head the only directors that are not pushing the same thing are Tarantino, Nolan and Scorsese. On the other hand, Scorsese has done the crime movie genre using the same group for a long time though and is doing it again with The Irishman. It seems like a veiled excuse to get the old boys back together again when he could have used just about any actors.

 

[icespot]

Well Frozen open today and it's a movie about two female leads. I predict it's going to kill it at the movie theaters, because the first one was pretty good.

What no toxic feminist will notice will be all the fathers that will be there with their daughters. What will be more invisible to the same toxic feminist, all the little boys that will show up with their fathers to see the same movie.

Yesterday, four of us rushed to Walmart to buy any type of Frozen dress so our daughters can ware it to the movies. We do it because we love to see their smile and happiness at the little things we do for them. We are also dishing out money for dresses, tickets and popcorn, because the first one was pretty good. I'm willing to bet Frozen will kill Cars at the box office, which will prove all along what we have been saying. It's not about male or female lead, it's about quality.


Side note, I am surprised no one has mentioned Atomic Blond, I love that movie and Charlize Theron kicks ass in it, you don't see a female hero and a male villain. You see two spies being really good at what they do....

Atomic Blond had a production cost of 30 million and a box office of 100 million.

Red Sparrow was another good movie with a production cost of 69 million and a box office of 151 million.

Now Anna a movie like the two above was pretty good. It had a production cost of 30 million and had a box office of 30 million. What it didn't have like the two above was liked and we'll known stars.

Much like the first two Charlie's Angels and this one. like most people I never want to see any movie with Kristen Stewart, the cast of this movie was simply put, not the right one.

 

[Gooseifur]

So Liz Banks blamed the failure of the movie on men saying they didn't go to see it. How about making a better movie and not blaming someone else for her failure.

 

[canada-man]

Toxic masculinity build dams, skyscrapers, bridges, put man on the moon, etc

 

[Insidious Von]

I enjoyed Atomic Blonde, unfortunately it didn't make the money expected. It earned $57 million at the North American box office, which yields a bigger take for the distributors than the International market. With that Charlize changed her on taking part in another Mad Max film.

While the male support was more than capable, none had the charisma power pack of a Tom Hardy. Mad Max: Fury Road was Charlize's film, with Tom in support. It made $389 million at the North American Box office. And broke the record of selection on VOD, adding another $86 million. WB is suing George Miller for breach contract, his follow up Wasteland was due in the summer of 2018.

Poor Tom he got his nose broken again, this time by a girl. That's the risk you take when you insist on real fight scenes between actors.

 

[Insidious Von]

the biggest discrepancy between critic and moviegoer was for Venom. The RT score was 29% and an audience score of 82%.

It made $211 million at the North American box office and a whopping $618 million Internationally. The critics missed the boat, never underestimate Tom Hardy.

Michelle Williams, who can have any role she wants, actually auditioned to be in the film. She knew more than the critics.

 

[sp free]

People are tired of being force fed progressive bullshit.

You can’t find a series without homosexuality in it, for example. This is the latest box office bomb where girl power is shoved down our throats.

The 5 foot nothing, 100 pound female beating the shit out of multiple guys built like NFL linebackers is played out.

They’ll stop making them if they keep flopping. It is all about money, after all.

 

[Insidious Von]

Can Kristen Stewart beat up Lawrence Taylor?

One was in a cheesy franchise that women loved, the other is the defensive GOAT. That's the problem with current Hollywood, they're asking us to fork over the money and suspend our disbelief beyond any semblance of reason. It's not working.

 

[Uncharted]

People are tired of being force fed progressive bullshit.

You can’t find a series without homosexuality in it, for example.

Exactly.
According to Gallop polls, 4.5% of the American population is gay/bi.
That means for every group of 20 people, 1 is probably gay.

Now, take a show like How to get away with Murder.
The main characters consist of about 10 supposedly random people brought together by circumstance.
3 of them are, or have gay tendencies, with a forth gay character that comes and goes.
That makes 40% of a random sampling of people gay.

So, this show is basically depicting that 40% of Americans are gay/bi. That is so far off from statistical fact as to be ridiculous. Especially for a show that isn't even supposed to be about homosexuality, or sexuality in general.

That is literally shoving an agenda down people's throats with a pile driver.
I'm all for depicting the real world, of having a character here and there being gay. But 40% of a character cast of supposedly random people? Who do they think they're fooling?

 

[icespot]

I would love to live in a world where 90 % of men are gay and 10% of women are lesbian. Leaving 10% of us heterosexual males and 90% straight Females.

 

[scouser1]

the biggest discrepancy between critic and moviegoer was for Venom. The RT score was 29% and an audience score of 82%.

It made $211 million at the North American box office and a whopping $618 million Internationally. The critics missed the boat, never underestimate Tom Hardy.

Michelle Williams, who can have any role she wants, actually auditioned to be in the film. She knew more than the critics.

Got to love your postings, they start off on one topic then completely swerve into another and ended with some posted video ��

 

[Robert Mugabe]

I would love to live in a world where 90 % of men are gay and 10% of women are lesbian. Leaving 10% of us heterosexual males and 90% straight Females.

And if you had those odds and still can't get laid, what do you tell your mom?

 

[Insidious Von]

Got to love your postings, they start off on one topic then completely swerve into another and ended with some posted video ��

Never said I was perfect, my good friend scouser1. You accept a fault like Asperger's if it helps you in other ways. I could have remained a poor stoner but that would not be good for me or anyone else. And if you think I'm hard to follow on a thread, try having a public conversation with me. On the flipside, when I am out in public, those I've worked with are very loyal to me, most nights are gratis.

Thanks to Oracle I now know that the most toxic masculine character is back on the air. Ray Donovan is a rare show I could watch from the beginning again. Paula Malcolmson (Abby Donovan) may no longer be in the show but she's landed nicely on her feet as Silk Specter's nemesis in Watchmen.