Torontonians , Tire selection,,,FAIL.

[moredale7]

I left the house early AM yesterday as my mums HCW was not going to be able to assist due to the weather so off I went to mums house, I had a ball blasting through the un-ploughed little side roads of my neighborhood snow coming over the hood fishtailing through the curves what a ball God bless Canadian winters, Skiing, ice fishing, snowmobiling, playing hockey fucking in the steam bath what's not to love.

Once I got off the side streets and onto a main road I was just baffled by the amount of carnage I saw. There were stuck vehicles littering the streets it looked like a war zone. I don't get it how do you live where it snows and not have snow tires? or at least all weather tires? How do you make the decision to look at over a foot of snow on your driveway get in your one wheel drive Honda Civic with bald summer tires and expect you are going to get anywhere? I saw countless vehicles with no visible impedance to moving forward simply unable to get their vehicles to move due to shit tires.

Also I saw several vehicle's trying to move forward with the telltale low steady RPM's of a vehicle with it's traction control engaged, people you have to turn your traction control OFF if you want to move in the snow. Operating an automobile in snow should be entered into the Canadian school curriculum as mandatory learning with a required passing grade of 100%

I'm no fucking genius and I have a lifetime of blue fingernails and scars to prove it, but c'mon people, WTF???

You know your car, you know your tires, you see a foot of snow, you are in your pajamas looking out the window with your finger buried in your nose up to where your brain should be, you have a simple decision to make, so easy, a veritable "NO FUCKING BRAINER" and despite all the screaming in your head not to leave the house, there you are an hour later at the side of the road spinning your wheels.

COVID ?

 

[ptp]

Im not sure why snow tires are not mandatory in this province .

Couple of weeks ago after light snow fall , saw a VW GTI with low profile summer tires tried to make a corner and now its going to cost him to fix it .

 

[jcpro]

Im not sure why snow tires are not mandatory in this province .

Couple of weeks ago after light snow fall , saw a VW GTI with low profile summer tires tried to make a corner and now its going to cost him to fix it .

We get snow in Toronto twice a year. Why bother? I live in the city and I've always had good quality all season tires and I've never have any problems, even yesterday.

 

[HEYHEY]

We get snow in Toronto twice a year. Why bother? I live in the city and I've always had good quality all season tires and I've never have any problems, even yesterday.

Well let's see, the 401 which is one of the busiest highways in north America, has been closed for 24 hours now because of a slight incline.

Hundreds of motorists and new canadian truck drivers have been stranded

 

[Jenesis]

OMG. The snow tire bitchfest.

There were plenty of cars with snow tires that were getting stuck as well. Transports, even police cars.

In some places the snow was higher then peoples bumpers. Some cars are just not able to push through that no matter the tires they have.

It seems most of You think your some elites because you have snow tires. Truth is - you’re not.

 

[jcpro]

Well let's see, the 401 which is one of the busiest highways in north America, has been closed for 24 hours now because of a slight incline.

Hundreds of motorists and new canadian truck drivers have been stranded

Once in a decade or two event.

 

[Jenesis]

Once in a decade or two event.

Try the 1960s. That was the last time we had this big a snowfall. Or at least that was the record I heard.

 

[jcpro]

Try the 1960s. That was the last time we had this big a snowfall. Or at least that was the record I heard.

Mel Lastman called in the army in the 90s. I lived at St. Clair and Dufferin- it was a bit more than yesterday.

 

[Jenesis]

Mel Lastman called in the army in the 90s. I lived at St. Clair and Dufferin- it was a bit more than yesterday.

I’m just going by what the weather network said. Maybe they meant in one dump. We all know the army wasn’t needed then and it is a big running joke.

I can see this being true.

 

[funstick]

I believe in winter tires which do more than help navigate snow. Winter tires are made of a different compound and grip the road better in cold conditions. Even though the GTA doesn't get a ton of snow there are many slippery road days. Some winter tires are especially effective in icy conditions. Winter tires are not a guarantee you are going to avoid the ditch or getting stuck, but they will reduce risk.

Also, if you are going to keep your vehicle for several years, winter tires double the lifespan of your "summer" tires so it all more or less balances out except for tire change costs and maybe storage.

 

[danmand]

OMG. The snow tire bitchfest.

There were plenty of cars with snow tires that were getting stuck as well. Transports, even police cars.

In some places the snow was higher then peoples bumpers. Some cars are just not able to push through that no matter the tires they have.

It seems most of You think your some elites because you have snow tires. Truth is - you’re not.

I have lived in Ontario since 1980. I have never had snow tires.

I stay home until the roads have been cleared.

 

[massman]

I’m just going by what the weather network said. Maybe they meant in one dump. We all know the army wasn’t needed then and it is a big running joke.

I can see this being true.

Agree, I think this was the biggest single dump. The issue in 99 was a series of snowfalls in a short time, culminating in a >30 cm storm. A years worth of snow fell in a week or two.
People laugh at lastman calling in the army, but the city was screwed. Emergency vehicles could not get down residential streets to deal with fire / medical emergencies, hospital workers could not get to work etc. Lastman was laughable, but having lived in downtown TO at that time IMO he made the right call.

 

[massman]

OMG. The snow tire bitchfest.

There were plenty of cars with snow tires that were getting stuck as well. Transports, even police cars.

In some places the snow was higher then peoples bumpers. Some cars are just not able to push through that no matter the tires they have.

It seems most of You think your some elites because you have snow tires. Truth is - you’re not.

+1. Snow tires only get you so far. I’ve had vehicles that are AWD, with snows and still will get bogged down when the snow is deep, as you say, up to the bumper. Just too much resistance to plough through. Now, with a small SUV, better ground clearance, not as much of an issue.

 

[Jenesis]

+1. Snow tires only get you so far. I’ve had vehicles that are AWD, with snows and still will get bogged down when the snow is deep, as you say, up to the bumper. Just too much resistance to plough through. Now, with a small SUV, better ground clearance, not as much of an issue.

Exactly. And driving down side street so hard and so fast that you snow blowing up over your hood is a fuckton more dangerous then getting stuck in the snow because you don’t have snow tires on a day like yesterday.

 

[lomotil]

Once in a decade or two event.

If yesterday‘s snow mega dump was more common then mandatory snow tires would have made a difference, but not a huge one with that volume of snow. Vehicles with AWD and snow tires yesterday fared better but yesterday was highly unusual.
Chains on truck tires or studded tires would have been nice yesterday but they destroy the roads . GTA roads have been generally bare in the winter for the last 25 years or more as weather patterns have changed from the heavy dumps of the 70s and 80s. For many yesterday, it was their first driving experience in these conditions.

 

[whynot888]

[QUOTE="Jenesis, post: 7359030, member: ]
It seems most of You think your some elites because you have snow tires. Truth is - you’re not.
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Having snow tires is like wearing a bulletproof vest, its not 100% but it will offer you protection.

 

[NotADcotor]

+1. Snow tires only get you so far. I’ve had vehicles that are AWD, with snows and still will get bogged down when the snow is deep, as you say, up to the bumper.

Yeah, I had an AWD vehicle I think with winter tires side swipe my car parked on the side of the road, this in Cornhole where we missed the worst of it because like every other storm mother nature is so disgusted by our city and it's human filth that it bypasses it like it does every other storm to dump on Ottawa and Cornhole. Based on the damage and how far the wreckage flew she was no doubt speeding and probably on her phone.

Don't have winter tires, never will. When it's too shitty I stay the fuck home. I don't work so I have the leisure to do so. I also don't tailgate or leadfoot it and drive to conditions. Also during the winter I put little mileage on the car.

There is a world of difference between a cab putting in all day driving through highways and hills in Montreal where side streets are never done and some retired fart in Leamington who only goes shopping and to play cards with the other old farts and otherwise stays home.
Also a world of difference between fucknuts who drive like a maniac and people who adjust their driving.

The rental we have now has winter tires. Aside from the noise, I don't really notice any difference because again, I adjust.

I went to mums house, I had a ball blasting through the un-ploughed little side roads of my neighborhood snow coming over the hood fishtailing through the curves

Much rather have someone ride all seasons and drive like an adult than this.

 

[james t kirk]

Mel Lastman called in the army in the 90s. I lived at St. Clair and Dufferin- it was a bit more than yesterday.

1999 if I recall correctly

And yes that was unreal and far worse than yesterday. The snow piles I shovelled in front of my place then were taller than me.

And 2013 (maybe 2014) was no picnic either I recall and February of that year was beyond fucking cold. Record cold.

 

[james t kirk]

As to snow tires, I won't drive without them in the winter. Different compound that doesn't get hard in the cold and hence better grip. Ttead patterns are better at dealing with the snow.

All my vehicles are all wheel drive equipped with snow tires. Yesterday was not a problem at all.

 

[moredale7]

As to snow tires, I won't drive without them in the winter. Different compound that doesn't get hard in the cold and hence better grip. Ttead patterns are better at dealing with the snow.

All my vehicles are all wheel drive equipped with snow tires. Yesterday was not a problem at all.

I've never had snow tires but this year I upgraded from all season to all-weather tires and what a difference, coincidentally I was also re-negotiating my car insurance and the all-weather tires were one of the factors that went into me getting a better rate.