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SkyRider

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He has zero responsibility to talk to media. I could give a shit whether he talks to the media at all.
Isn't it the media folks who vote for the HOF? Kessel could make the HOF because:

1) Entry standards are low.
2) He is a Maple Leaf.

Kessel might not make the HOF because:

1) The Leafs won't win the Cup.
2) Kessels' stats will be watered down because he plays on a lousy team.
 

saxon

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Actually he does. The team has policies in place that the players do have to talk to the media. Especially considering who owns them and just paid a crapload of money to the NHL. Money that goes towards paying his salary.

He is the top guy on the team with the most media coverage in the league. As a professional he does has an obligation to suck it up.
as it was explained to him by Leaf management after this little fiasco. Yes, all players have an obligation to make themselves available to the media as a matter of fact the NFL has a policy of fining players who duck the media I think the NBA is the same. No different than attending fan and charity events its part of your job wether you like it or not.
 

jazzpig

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Isn't it the media folks who vote for the HOF? Kessel could make the HOF because:

1) Entry standards are low.
2) He is a Maple Leaf.

Kessel might not make the HOF because:

1) The Leafs won't win the Cup.
2) Kessels' stats will be watered down because he plays on a lousy team.
Inductees to the HHOF are voted in by a 18 member selection committee.
In baseball, it's the writers.
Wouldn't it be funny if Kessel gets voted in, but doesn't want to make a speech.
 

SkyRider

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Inductees to the HHOF are voted in by a 18 member selection committee.
In baseball, it's the writers.
Wouldn't it be funny if Kessel gets voted in, but doesn't want to make a speech.
Thanks. I think the standard for MLB HOF is much higher than the HHOF. I also think the only reason Jack Morris is not in the MLB HOF is because he pissed off to many writers.
 

saxon

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I'd have to agree with you. I get on a players case for earning huge money, and not putting in a solid effort. I'd also be concerned if a fan was snubbed at a Leaf charity dinner.

But do dodge the media, or be rude to them, I'd side more with the player, especially the circumstances of that game. I can't imagine how overwhelming to come off such a loss, and walk into dozens of cameras, and mics shoved inches from your face asking you the most annoying of questions like "How do you feel about the game"
Sure its in the job description to do the interviews, but also understand these guys are human, and we all get in a 'mood' once in awhile.

Others like Chris Pronger would turn interviews into something comical through sarcasm when it showed he didn't really didn't want to be talked to. Darryl Sutter can also be pretty funny talking when you know he rather not.
I have to disagree Kat, Kessel has been around long enough to figure out how to deal with the media even after a tough loss. Besides these guys are supposed to be "professional" not just on the ice but off the ice as well. And has stated in the media today the Leafs brass made it very clear ignoring the media is not an option players have.
 

shack

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Media love to cause controversy. In this case the controversy is because they were given no opportunity to ask controversial questions.

They should suck it up, like the players do when playing hurt and stop whining because Kessel feels "they don't need to speak to him every single day".

And if they weren't such trouble makers, players would be less disinclined to speak to them.
 

saxon

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Nashville 9-2 winners, 15 different Predators score a point. What is Kessel going to say about this one.
 

Ironhead

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Buffalo 6 Toronto 2

Nashville 9 Toronto 2


Frying pan > Fire


Some change is needed.
GM, coach, players
 

JanHammer

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Miami, you dumbass
Ray Ferraro summed it up best.

Nashville had just scored one of their late goals - he pointed out that there were 3 yellow jerseys around the Leaf goal.
His advice - "drop one".
He alluded to the fact that as an athlete, you should be competing and proud.

Sad to see no compete or pride in them these days.
 

maurice93

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A strong captain like Phaneuf will be able to bring the team back quickly as he has always done.
 

superstar_88

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I use to like Phaneuf but sadly the last 2 games has shown that he is indeed way over-rated.
 

bullitt

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now in goal for trawna wearing #30, BRUCE GAMBLE. I simply could not resist. but if they unload Carlyle... who do they replace him with?
 

Dawgger

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He has zero responsibility to talk to media. I could give a shit whether he talks to the media at all.
He did not want to talk after losing to a team the Leafs should have defeated, big deal.

I'm amazed the Toronto media hasn't reached out to the players' mommies. :hand:
 

JanHammer

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Miami, you dumbass
I use to like Phaneuf but sadly the last 2 games has shown that he is indeed way over-rated.
WOW - you're a kinder man than I am.

I still remember the dying minutes of Game 7 against Boston a few years ago. Phaneuf versus Chara right in front of Reimer. Phaneuf SHOULD have dumped him on his ass - as the refs were calling nothing. But everyone in the hockey world saw who the true competitor was.

He's out of his league - and over his head here in TO, especially as Captain.

Remember this article?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/…/op-ed-do-we-…/article/402633
 

jazzpig

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WOW - you're a kinder man than I am.

I still remember the dying minutes of Game 7 against Boston a few years ago. Phaneuf versus Chara right in front of Reimer. Phaneuf SHOULD have dumped him on his ass - as the refs were calling nothing. But everyone in the hockey world saw who the true competitor was.

He's out of his league - and over his head here in TO, especially as Captain.

Remember this article?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/…/op-ed-do-we-…/article/402633
This is a huge problem for the Leafs and the reality is that they are stuck with his contract. Nobody in their right mind will take him with that cap hit.
As infuriating as it is to watch him, I feel bad for the guy. It's not like he's not trying his best and he faces the media and owns up.
The questions he's asked now are beyond the plays he makes, its about his ability. I don't think that is fair.
They need to remove the C from him at the end of the year. It's a matter of being cruel to be kind.
Take him out of the firing line, reduce his minutes further, he needs to settle down.
 

slademan

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I think Dion Phaneuf is getting a bad rap in this city by the fans. I will be the first to admit that Dion is well over paid and the term of his contract is way too long. Unfortunately for the Leafs his contract expired at the wrong time and timing is everything. Dion plays the most minutes of any defenseman on the team. he plays against the other teams top forwards, penalty kills and plays the powerplay. he logs over 20 minutes of ice time every night. Being on one of the worst defensive teams in the league he has still managed to put up a respectable plus/minus every year. When his contract was about to expire the leafs had no one in the system and there were no free agents becoming available that the leafs could get that could play the minutes that Dion plays and play in the same situations that he plays in. Is Dion one of the best defenseman in the league........No...........but there are a lot worse ones out there making the same kind of money that Dion is making. The Leafs had no choice but to over pay Dion because there was no one out there to replace his minutes. Here are some contacts of NHL defenseman and are you trying to tell me these players are better all around players than Dion. Brian campbell $7,14 Million, Brooks Orpik $6.6, Mike Green $6.5, Mark Streit $6.25, Niklas Kronwall $6 million, Matt Carle $5.5, Jason Garrison $5 million. and there are a lot more bad contracts out there. The main problem with Dion is that people are a lot tougher on him because he is wearing the "C" and because of his contract. I say take the "C" away from him and don't have a captain because no one on the team is worthy of wearing it. Take the pressure of Dion and let him play hockey.
 

SkyRider

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Dion plays the most minutes of any defenseman on the team. he plays against the other teams top forwards, penalty kills and plays the powerplay. he logs over 20 minutes of ice time every night.
Plus, he rarely misses a game (unlike some players).
 

Polaris

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Wow, the Leafs win a game! Win another, and some will be talking about a parade route, like that Lewinsky fellow last year.

On the other hand, lose the next two games, and they probably will fire the coach, the GM, the President they just hired, and trade those big contracts for draft picks to start again.

That's the Leafs!

Actually, the only game I watched lately was that Boston game, and I did not have a chance to watch the following games, but I did hear about, and read the media.

One thing I read was absolutely true. Toronto, is the entertainment capital of Canada.

In my case, I did not even watch the last four Toronto Maple Leafs games, and I still managed to be entertained. LoL.

Since I did not watch any games, cannot comment on that. I looked at the standings and the Leafs are in 6th place in their conference. Last time I looked they were 3rd, but now they are 6th and hanging onto a playoff spot. For this team, that probably is where they probably should be.

Given the hysteria surrounding the team after those blowouts, there is some larger underlying issues on what kind of improvement can we expect out of this team. The psycho fans who flipped out, might see something we don't. Then again, maybe we see the same thing, it is just some fans are psycho, and definitely the Toronto media is bipolar. Bipolar pukes, to paraphrase a famous person with long white uncombed hair. That short guy really has a mouth. The Leafs should trade Shanny straight up for that guy, bring him back.

Basically, your best players, played for Wilson, and they fired him. Then they fired the GM, but the best players remained. The new coach Carlyle manage to get the team into the playoffs, and fell short with the same players. Tried again the following year fell short again. Then the team kept its best players and got rid of basically all of the bottom six forwards. Altered the defense too.

After all that, the team just seems to be marginally better. You can fire the coach again, and new guy will coach the team into the playoffs for one year, then we see the Blue & White disease come back into the lineup. A new coach can be the spark to get the team into the playoffs, but the year after that, we probably having the same conversation, and same psycho fans ditching their Leafs sweaters onto the ice. There's no point in replacing Carlyle with Carlyle.

So, we're still back at the same question of how to make this team better, at least more consistent.

In my view of the Leafs, Keon, Sittler, Gilmour, Sundin, that was the times the Leafs had decent teams. I guess with this market, you need that on ice leadership from the big center. Bozak is not the guy. Kadri still not ready for that, if he ever be.

Then again, those type of centers don't exactly grow on trees.

Guess we wait as Leafs fans for management to pull off another trade to land a center. In the meantime, we have to settle for the games and media entertainment.

Go Leafs Go!

:Eek:
 
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