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glamphotographer

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In the 2008 and 2009 seasons the Leafs had the chance to tank but started to play better late into the season and missed the playoffs. Had they finished last those 2 seasons they would have had Steve Stamkos and John Tavares, two players who can build a franchise/dynasty on. The Leafs timing sucks. The Leafs have the 7th pick and the way they are trending they should get a top 5 pick. However, something tells me the Leafs will snap out of the slump and get a 13th pick instead.
 

maurice93

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I just see Phil Kessel as a Dany Heatley, when he was in his prime. A productive one way and very skilled hockey player, a bit of a dick, somewhat out of shape. Kessel will probably regress as quickly.... That would still leave him some good years years.

Two key points though:
1) you dont build around players like Heatley. They can't be a leader on a good or building team. You add those type of players to an existing foundation.
2) if you are a rebuilding team why keep a "star" player who will likely be in rapid regression by the age of 30 and is not a good leader.

You don't start over and keep Kessel. You keep Kessel only if you think you can retool and add a better forward piece than Kessel. Kessel can be that secondary productive player.
 

Insidious Von

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I am not a big hockey fan but I listen to sports radio all-day, every day.
So do I and I nearly got into an accident when Tim and Sid played Joe Bowen's call on the Coyote's knuckleball goal.

"Start of the third, Leafs are getting good goaltending from Bernier SCOOOORES...well so much for that".

Sid Seixeiro is the logical successor to Roberto McCown on Prime Time. I'm not sold on Tim on Prime Time, but Sid didn't want to create strife buy not including him in the deal. I think Donovan Bennett would be the better fit for Prime Time, he's the perfect straight man for Sid's antics.

In the process of tanking, I hope they don't completely destroy Bernier's confidence. He will be a solid starting goalie, if it's with the Leafs remains to be seen.

 

Jennifer_

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So do I and I nearly got into an accident when Tim and Sid played Joe Bowen's call on the Coyote's knuckleball goal.

"Start of the third, Leafs are getting good goaltending from Bernier SCOOOORES...well so much for that".
Best! I heard that live as well. I heart Sid.
 

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In the 2008 and 2009 seasons the Leafs had the chance to tank but started to play better late into the season and missed the playoffs.
The Leafs play their best hockey when they are out of playoff contention. BTW: There is no guarantee they would have selected Stamkos and/or Tavares even if they had the chance.

Franson is probably now playing for a free agent contract.
 

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Has a team ever fired two head coaches during a regular season?

Horachek has been disastrous. It's one thing for a team to take time to adjust to a new coach/system but their results are historically pathetic. The pride/life has been sucked out of this team. They at least competed for Carlyle once in a while, and they didn't even like him. There's still 2 months to go. I'm not talking playoffs. Just play with some pride.
 

saxon

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Sad thing is this style of play is what the Leaf brass wants, yes it's still relatively early after changing coaches but unless the players start buying into it they will have to blow it all up and it won't matter who they bring in as coach. Also this pathetic play is going to make it hard to attract a top notch coach.
 

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Boooooooooooooooooooooo!

They can't win playing defensively when holding leads. They can't win by playing behind. They can't win, period.

What seems clearer, was how good a coach Carlyle was. He got this bunch into the playoffs, and the team was in a playoff position before he got fired.

This beginning to look like a total joke.

What the hell is Shanahan doing or thinking? Fuck, he should lace them up and get in the lineup. At least he played with a lot of heart.

But it was his mistake that created all this.

The surprise firing of the coach, not a surprise to Carlyle it seems now, but to the players yeah seemed like a surprise. Then the meeting where Shanahan puts the team on notice that we are watching you. Those are two glaring errors. That was so dumb.

Carlyle was replaced by a coach who cannot win because he misallocates his resources. Firing a good coach was the first mistake.

The second mistake was putting the individual players on notice. That was a huge mistake. When you play hockey, you gotta play hockey. You cannot play thinking, "I cannot make a mistake". And that is how the Leafs are playing, not to win, but to not make mistakes according to the defense first system of the new coach.

No one on the Leafs roster wants to get traded out of town, that is the Blue and White disease. Joe Nieuwendyk was in the papers, and he said that being a Leafs "was probably the greatest experience" of his career. Blue & White Disease is tough enough, why compound it with such stupid management decisions. First thing they got to do is fire Nonis. Maybe even fire Shanahan. Let him learn the job somewhere else if he does not smarten up.

Shanahan should just on the phone with Don Cherry. Grapes still cares about the Leafs. Get Mark Hunter to talk to Grapes, aren't the Hunter family close to Cherry?

This cannot continue. Players can come and go, but professional reputation could be tarnished forever.

:blabla:
 

gcostanza

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McSuck for McDavid !
 

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Has a team ever fired a coach, then fired his replacement and brought back the original coach to finish the season? Yeah, does sound like we're passing a joint and being philosophical now..lol
This question came up the other day, I think on the Fan 590. The answer - yes a team has fired an interim coach. The 1995 - 1996 Ottawa Senators fired Rick Bowness in late 1995, replaced him with Dave Allison, then fired Allison after 27 games (he went 2-22-3) and replaced him with with Jacques Martin. I think they should just keep Horachek and continue to lose, positioning themselves well for the Connor McSweepstakes.
 

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I vote for Mickey Mouse as couch and the seven dwarfs for the team. Can't get any worse.

This will only change when Torontonians get their heads out of their collective asses and boycott the games. Money talks. But they still line up to buy tickets and the hype.
 

raptorizedguy

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I think you listen to too much Prime Time Sports :) I'm still not sure what "live in the city" means. If it means "have a permanent address in the city", I don't see what the big deal is. They spend so much time traveling to games, GM meetings, scouting trips, etc, that where their mail gets delivered doesn't mean much. It would be nice if they (and the players) "lived in the city" year-round, but that is a rarity.
That is a rarity .. It is more rare for GM's not to live in the city he is employed in .
 

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Aside this years draft we need to unload Phaneuf abd Kessell

Because Stamkos and Tavares have 2 more years left on the contracts ( i believe )
 

raptorizedguy

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I'm not aware of the living arrangements of any GM's. If this is truly the case, there would no data to support whether or not a GM's living arrangements have any impact on a team's success.
If it was a common practice then it wouldn't be a story ...

In defence of Shanny .. His mom and brothers live in the city and he was born in the city ..

I grew up a block away from him and so this city is in his blood ..
 

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saxon

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Aside this years draft we need to unload Phaneuf abd Kessell

Because Stamkos and Tavares have 2 more years left on the contracts ( i believe )
Are you suggesting Stamkos and Tavares would come to Toronto as free agents? Highly unlikely.
 

gcostanza

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Aside this years draft we need to unload Phaneuf abd Kessell

Because Stamkos and Tavares have 2 more years left on the contracts ( i believe )
Stamkos is UFA end of 15/16 season.
Tavares is UFA end of 17/18 season.
 
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