Indefinite suspension as a result of the criminal investigation...Bertuzzi can't really talk about it publically while he's under investigation. this is not assault with a stick so there shouldn't be criminal charges.
Your right, but I don't think we'll see the same McSorely situation here. As much as the police like to say their are unbiased I think home team politics will keep this one out of the courts.
Decision on suspension tomorrow at 9AM.Goober Mcfly said:
I hear Bertuzzi will be at BR tonight getting his face painted.
Paul/IT & Kathleen: I'll bet he's suspended for the rest of the season, playoffs and 50 games next season as well.
That's much better than the 2 games you were originally calling for ... lol ! The fact he didn't use his stick in this case is irrelevant. So is whether he "meant to cause this sort of damage". What is important is did he intend to injure ? Answer - yes ! Did he intend to fall on top of him driving him in the shoulders with the intent of hitting the ice hard ? Answer - yes !Kathleen said:
No doubt about it the League will come down very hard on him. He's cost himself probably $1M, probably about the same amount to his team in terms of players they traded for yesterday to replace him. All because he's a jerk-off. He deserves all the punishment he gets !!
Glad you've bailed on the 2 months !!!
I honestly don't think McSorley's hit was worse. Different, yes, but worse? No. You have to see that Bertuzzi jumped on him. There was intent to injure, no question...Kathleen said:
As for being an "elite" player, what does that have to do with anything? If anything it should hold him to a higher standard of conduct, just like that 'A' on his left chest...
I'm not saying I hope he's out for 50 games next season, it's just my guess. Personally, I'd like to see him out until Moore comes back. And if Moore's career is over, so is Bertuzzi's.
That will send a message. And it's damned fair too.
I would have a re=look at the video. Clearly it shows Bertuzzi punching him first, then while still ahold of Moore's sweater drive his head into the ice, then he cocks back his arm to delivery another punch to the head but was restrained by a Colorado player before he could do so. These are three completely different atcs. They is why he will get a suspenstion longer than Mat Johnson for Johnson only committed one disgusting act. Bertuzzi committed three! Premediated...hunted his pray down..stalker him no less....delivery three separate dusgusting acts. Hell ya he went way over the line.Kathleen said:
Bertuzzi can put some butter on his forehead cause he's toast!
How about you cut Bad Kat a little slack? She's demonstrated again that she's nothing but a class act the way she has responded to some of the baiting here. She made a 2 game call before she knew the extent of Moore's injuries. She's got a difference in opnion in what she would dole out, compared to what they league will do. Hardly surprising as she's not a suit.
Hell. I can't believe any jerk here would debate her right to speak on the issue, because she's a girl. WTF? I thought the immature concept of "ew, girlie germs" died at kindergarten.
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Hell. I can't believe any jerk here would debate her right to speak on the issue, because she's a girl. WTF? I thought the immature concept of "ew, girlie germs" died at kindergarten.
Fernie
No player has ever received more than a 12 game suspension for a sucker punch on another player. It wouldn't be fair for Bertuzzi to face a much harsher level of justice than other players have faced just because he is a high profile player. Hopefully Colin Campbell doesn't let the court of public opinion sway his decision when deciding Bertuzzi's penalty. If the leagues disiplinary system is just, Bertuzzi's penalty will be based on penalties handed out for the same infraction in the past. Using your stick as a weapon is and should be viewed more harshly by the league.
For all the Leafs fans who are calling for Bertuzzi to be kicked out for a year or even life, then perhaps the league needs to reexamine Owen Nolans 11 game suspension from 3 years ago and give him the boot from the league as well. If you are so outraged by violence in hockey how was Nolan's blindside elbow to Grant Marshall's neck any less violent. Marshall instantly went down and also banged his head on the ice. The results of Bertuzzi's stupidity could have been tragic but then the exact same thing could be said about Nolan's actions. If your going to make an example out of someone then everyone else should face the same level of justice.
For all the Leafs fans who are calling for Bertuzzi to be kicked out for a year or even life, then perhaps the league needs to reexamine Owen Nolans 11 game suspension from 3 years ago and give him the boot from the league as well. If you are so outraged by violence in hockey how was Nolan's blindside elbow to Grant Marshall's neck any less violent. Marshall instantly went down and also banged his head on the ice. The results of Bertuzzi's stupidity could have been tragic but then the exact same thing could be said about Nolan's actions. If your going to make an example out of someone then everyone else should face the same level of justice.
True, but I would argue that the piledrive faceplant into the ice is also worth an additional 12 games at least.SirLickheralot said:
Personally, I think he should be gone for the year, but based on previous sentences, I could see 20 games.
The league needs to make an example of Todd Burtuzzi on this incident. Similar past incidents and punishments have not deterred cowardly and reckless behavior. The 16 games Matt Johnson got did not deter McSorley. The 23 games McSorely got did not deter Domi's elbow......... The list could go on. The NHL needs to make a statement that this type of action is not in the realm of tough hockey, no matter who you are. Burtuzzi has no right to talk about respect for other players after Monday night. Moore deserves the same respect as any other player. Maybe not the respect in terms of a player, but as a human being. The refs give the "elite" playes a few breaks on the ice, that they have earned. No player earns any type of break for this.
It is a mute point to debate the Naslund hit because it was a clean hit. Yes Moore could of avoided it, but Naslund knows if he has his head down, he is going to get clocked. It was his carelessness that aided in the impact of that hit. Moore, Stevens, McCabe etc. will always throw the big hit because it is what they are paid for. There is a difference between hurting a player and injuring a player and I don't think any player intends to injure. Burtuzzi tried to hurt Moore, which he should have and Moore had it coming. But because of the way Burt elected to handled it, he seriously injured him. Accident of not, he needs to pay dearly. And remeber, Burt has a history of losing his head. He got 10 games for leaving the bench a few years back to get involved in a fight. This shows, elite or not, he can be a little reckless.
Hockey is a violent sport. That's why we love it. But there are boundaries within the madness of the NHL, there are lines that don't need be crossed. Todd Bertuzzi crossed one of those lines Monday night, and the NHL needs to say enough. Players are always talking about no respect for each other, it is time to show it. My take? The rest of the season and playoffs would be an insult. One year at least. This gives rough and tough hockey a bad image.
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It is a mute point to debate the Naslund hit because it was a clean hit. Yes Moore could of avoided it, but Naslund knows if he has his head down, he is going to get clocked. It was his carelessness that aided in the impact of that hit. Moore, Stevens, McCabe etc. will always throw the big hit because it is what they are paid for. There is a difference between hurting a player and injuring a player and I don't think any player intends to injure. Burtuzzi tried to hurt Moore, which he should have and Moore had it coming. But because of the way Burt elected to handled it, he seriously injured him. Accident of not, he needs to pay dearly. And remeber, Burt has a history of losing his head. He got 10 games for leaving the bench a few years back to get involved in a fight. This shows, elite or not, he can be a little reckless.
Hockey is a violent sport. That's why we love it. But there are boundaries within the madness of the NHL, there are lines that don't need be crossed. Todd Bertuzzi crossed one of those lines Monday night, and the NHL needs to say enough. Players are always talking about no respect for each other, it is time to show it. My take? The rest of the season and playoffs would be an insult. One year at least. This gives rough and tough hockey a bad image.
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Just cant believe the Neadrathal respose some of you had to Kathleen....this "you gotta play the game to understand " B/S..now I whole heartedly disagree with Kathleen...not based on that she didn't"play the game" but based on the merits of her statements. Listen, you don't need to put your hand on a lit burner to know it will burn you....so all you "pros" that have played the game that think your opinion is more valuable because of that, are all blowing smoke. Any knowledgeable fan...and even though I disagree with Kathleen,she seems to be a knowledgeable fan....can bring as much to,the discussion as anyone else.....P.S. to Kathleen.....Damn hot looking woman you are...some of the best looking pics Ive seen on any Sp site....If I ever get up to the TO area...have to check you out....
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Can't say that I saw the earlier incident between Moore and the Canucks, but for goodness sakes, be man enough to go face to face instead of a chicken shit punch from behind. Especially considering Bertuzzi goes 245 and Moore 210. Kick him out for a year at least.
At least the 2 incidents were in the same season. Mike Piazza and the Mets waited 2 years to try to get back at Roger Clemens and even then he had some pathetic guy that wasn't even around then try to retaliate only to fail miserably and embarrassingly. That has to be the ultimate chicken shit act.
At least the 2 incidents were in the same season. Mike Piazza and the Mets waited 2 years to try to get back at Roger Clemens and even then he had some pathetic guy that wasn't even around then try to retaliate only to fail miserably and embarrassingly. That has to be the ultimate chicken shit act.
