50 is the new 37. I find older women more attractive than younger ladies. Because after 50, we all know, its an up hill battle. When I was in my 30's, I could eat a large pizza and my stomach was still relatively flat.
Tips on ex girl friend and fake charges.
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If I hold out long enough, I can triple my investment, through law suits for false arrest. They have to cover lawyer cost, but Ill go higher.
You do realize that you are involved right?Actually all the people involved are woman. Do you think men would actually be involved in this insanity?
So you are a woman...?
Read about half of the orginal post and had to look back at the handle - thought maybe Mike Bullard joined.
Ok I did the math:Yes. They think I am crazy, but its not that. I didnt really leave a big enough retainer for all the calls I make. So if I gave him 2500 dollars, and I made 250 calls, at 50 dollars a call, well you do the math.
250 calls x 50 dollars a call= $12,500
You claim 2500. So even doing the math your story is BS.
You have to be trolling . You can't be this dumb. It's not possible to be this stupid and have a computer.lol you are embarrassing yourself. did he say he got a restraining order issued thru the family law act? nope. he said they want to lay a peace bond against him. the FLA wouldn't even be relevant in this situation since it's an ex-girlfriend, not a spouse.
"there is no canada in law". uhh it's called the criminal code of CANADA, section 810.
try again, moron.
It looks like you have a lot of time on your hands. A lot. I wonder why. Have fun trash. In my house we take out the trash, we don't argue with it.
He's having a laugh friend. Take a look who's on this thread. It's pretty clear who the troll is. They are dim witted and bad at it.you sure as hell got something, and intelligence ain't it
so i guess you're not going to link us to the part of the "canada law act" where peace bonds are issued? lmfao.
says the guy starting shit w everyone on this thread hahahaha
You stalking me? Peace Bond time ...of course I will obtain it under Criminal Code Of Canada (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46) , Section 810 as opposed to going for a Restraining Order under the Family Law Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. F.3 since, thankfully, we are not domestic.
What is a Peace Bond?
In Canadian law, a peace bond is an order from a criminal court that requires a person to keep the peace and be on good behaviour for a period of time. This essentially means that the person who signs a peace bond must not be charged with any additional criminal offences during its duration.[1] Peace bonds often have other conditions as well, such as not having any weapons or staying away from a particular person or place. Peace bonds are similar to a civil court restraining order, and are also based on the lesser burden of proof of civil law.
A peace bond can be issued by a criminal court judge or a Justice of the Peace.[2] A peace bond is usually issued when the Crown Prosecutor is convinced that a strong case does not exist against the accused. A person does not plead guilty when they enter into a peace bond. Thus, there is no finding of guilt or conviction registered if a person agrees to sign a peace bond. One of the reasons why a person may agree to enter into a peace bond is to avoid a criminal trial, and ultimately the possibility of being convicted in a court of law of the offence for which they were charged. Being convicted in a court of law would entail receiving a criminal record.[3]
The peace bond itself is usually set for twelve months.[4] If a peace bond is signed, then the charges are withdrawn, and the prosecution of those charges is considered to be complete, and those same charges can never be re-instated. However, if one or more of the conditions of a peace bond are broken, either by not obeying one of the conditions, or by getting charged with a subsequent criminal offence within the 12-month period of time in which it was signed, there could be very serious repercussions, as this may result in the person being charged with a separate criminal offence of "breach of recognizance" or "disobeying a court order". The defendant may also be required to forfeit the entire cash surety that they pledged to pay to the court (usually $500 or $1000) when they entered into the peace bond.[5] Breaching any condition of a peace bond is considered a criminal offence. Moreover, as of July 19, 2015, a conviction for breaching a condition of a peace bond carries a maximum sentence of up to four years imprisonment.[6]
The use of peace bonds is rather uncommon in the U.S. justice system,[dubious ] but a deferred prosecution has a similar effect. Since there is no conviction or admission of any guilt, signing a peace bond in Canada does not usually result in U.S. inadmissibility under INA § 212 (a) (2).
Upon expiry of the peace bond, the person who was subject to the bond should write to the arresting police agency and request that the bond be purged, along with their fingerprints and photographs (if applicable).[citation needed] Otherwise, details of the bond will remain in the investigative section of the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) indefinitely, which may affect future travel and employment.[citation needed]Applications to request a file destruction of fingerprints, photographs, and record of disposition are available on all Canadian police websites.
While in effect, the peace bond used to appear on a basic criminal record check, but since the year 2011 it is no longer the case.[citation needed] Since a peace bond is a public record, it may also be visible in provincial online court records, but is clearly identified as a court order and not a finding of guilt or criminal conviction.[citation needed] An expired peace bond that has been purged should not affect future employment or travel.[citation needed]
In exceptional cases, an expired peace bond may still be disclosed by the police if the person once subject to the bond is seeking a very detailed criminal history check (vulnerable sector search) in order to work or volunteer directly without supervision with children, seniors, or disabled individuals. Although there are no uniform standards across the country, after a five-year period has elapsed from the date that the peace bond was issued, and if the person subject to the peace bond has not since transgressed the law, it should no longer appear even in the most detailed type of criminal record check.[7]
In Canadian law, a peace bond is an order from a criminal court that requires a person to keep the peace and be on good behaviour for a period of time. This essentially means that the person who signs a peace bond must not be charged with any additional criminal offences during its duration.[1] Peace bonds often have other conditions as well, such as not having any weapons or staying away from a particular person or place. Peace bonds are similar to a civil court restraining order, and are also based on the lesser burden of proof of civil law.
A peace bond can be issued by a criminal court judge or a Justice of the Peace.[2] A peace bond is usually issued when the Crown Prosecutor is convinced that a strong case does not exist against the accused. A person does not plead guilty when they enter into a peace bond. Thus, there is no finding of guilt or conviction registered if a person agrees to sign a peace bond. One of the reasons why a person may agree to enter into a peace bond is to avoid a criminal trial, and ultimately the possibility of being convicted in a court of law of the offence for which they were charged. Being convicted in a court of law would entail receiving a criminal record.[3]
The peace bond itself is usually set for twelve months.[4] If a peace bond is signed, then the charges are withdrawn, and the prosecution of those charges is considered to be complete, and those same charges can never be re-instated. However, if one or more of the conditions of a peace bond are broken, either by not obeying one of the conditions, or by getting charged with a subsequent criminal offence within the 12-month period of time in which it was signed, there could be very serious repercussions, as this may result in the person being charged with a separate criminal offence of "breach of recognizance" or "disobeying a court order". The defendant may also be required to forfeit the entire cash surety that they pledged to pay to the court (usually $500 or $1000) when they entered into the peace bond.[5] Breaching any condition of a peace bond is considered a criminal offence. Moreover, as of July 19, 2015, a conviction for breaching a condition of a peace bond carries a maximum sentence of up to four years imprisonment.[6]
The use of peace bonds is rather uncommon in the U.S. justice system,[dubious ] but a deferred prosecution has a similar effect. Since there is no conviction or admission of any guilt, signing a peace bond in Canada does not usually result in U.S. inadmissibility under INA § 212 (a) (2).
Upon expiry of the peace bond, the person who was subject to the bond should write to the arresting police agency and request that the bond be purged, along with their fingerprints and photographs (if applicable).[citation needed] Otherwise, details of the bond will remain in the investigative section of the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) indefinitely, which may affect future travel and employment.[citation needed]Applications to request a file destruction of fingerprints, photographs, and record of disposition are available on all Canadian police websites.
While in effect, the peace bond used to appear on a basic criminal record check, but since the year 2011 it is no longer the case.[citation needed] Since a peace bond is a public record, it may also be visible in provincial online court records, but is clearly identified as a court order and not a finding of guilt or criminal conviction.[citation needed] An expired peace bond that has been purged should not affect future employment or travel.[citation needed]
In exceptional cases, an expired peace bond may still be disclosed by the police if the person once subject to the bond is seeking a very detailed criminal history check (vulnerable sector search) in order to work or volunteer directly without supervision with children, seniors, or disabled individuals. Although there are no uniform standards across the country, after a five-year period has elapsed from the date that the peace bond was issued, and if the person subject to the peace bond has not since transgressed the law, it should no longer appear even in the most detailed type of criminal record check.[7]
From my understanding PBs are for criminal acts and retraining orders are issued from family court. While they act the same in regards to limiting a person from contact with another, Peace Bonds will and can have other conditions such as curfews, restrictions to drugs/alcohol and firearms. Similar to Bail/ROR's can have conditions which are often used in DV violence cases. After the criminal court is done, RO can be used to continue those condition through family court. You can also request RO though family court with no criminal action and you can apply for a PB with a JP for anyone other then a spouse without the need for a criminal court case.
So while both kind of operate the same, and even work together sometimes, they are different and used differently and independently as well.
But don't quote me on this because I am not a lawyer.
The OP mentioned both, but where he fails is that he said the "Church" sent him a RO and that is just not possible. They may have sent him a notice of some type, similar to a Cease & Desist but the RO would not be one that could be legally implemented which is why they would push for him to agree to a peace bond. If he does not, the course of action would be both parties in front of JP, stating their cases. However, if he has been arrested, the police would just put the conditions on his ROR. I wold assume that the crown would be offering a conditional discharge with the agreement that he sign the peace bond and therefore no criminal conviction for him and parties move on. That is usually the way it happens.
So because of all these holes in his posts, I have to assume there is WAY more to the actual story or it is completely bogus.
So while both kind of operate the same, and even work together sometimes, they are different and used differently and independently as well.
But don't quote me on this because I am not a lawyer.
The OP mentioned both, but where he fails is that he said the "Church" sent him a RO and that is just not possible. They may have sent him a notice of some type, similar to a Cease & Desist but the RO would not be one that could be legally implemented which is why they would push for him to agree to a peace bond. If he does not, the course of action would be both parties in front of JP, stating their cases. However, if he has been arrested, the police would just put the conditions on his ROR. I wold assume that the crown would be offering a conditional discharge with the agreement that he sign the peace bond and therefore no criminal conviction for him and parties move on. That is usually the way it happens.
So because of all these holes in his posts, I have to assume there is WAY more to the actual story or it is completely bogus.
From my understanding PBs are for criminal acts and retraining orders are issued from family court. While they act the same in regards to limiting a person from contact with another, Peace Bonds will and can have other conditions such as curfews, restrictions to drugs/alcohol and firearms. Similar to Bail/ROR's can have conditions which are often used in DV violence cases. After the criminal court is done, RO can be used to continue those condition through family court. You can also request RO though family court with no criminal action and you can apply for a PB with a JP for anyone other then a spouse without the need for a criminal court case.
So while both kind of operate the same, and even work together sometimes, they are different and used differently and independently as well.
But don't quote me on this because I am not a lawyer.
The OP mentioned both, but where he fails is that he said the "Church" sent him a RO and that is just not possible. They may have sent him a notice of some type, similar to a Cease & Desist but the RO would not be one that could be legally implemented which is why they would push for him to agree to a peace bond. If he does not, the course of action would be both parties in front of JP, stating their cases. However, if he has been arrested, the police would just put the conditions on his ROR. I wold assume that the crown would be offering a conditional discharge with the agreement that he sign the peace bond and therefore no criminal conviction for him and parties move on. That is usually the way it happens.
So because of all these holes in his posts, I have to assume there is WAY more to the actual story or it is completely bogus.
Correct, except if you, a civilian, apply for a Peace Bond against someone there will be a hearing in front of a Justice of a Peace and his result can be appealed.
A RO can be applied ex parte for a limited time but eventually you will have a hearing. To get a RO you have to have been married to the individual or lived with them for a period of time. OP claims he was issued a RO by the "church". Maybe if we were in 1813 that would be possible.
I think the person I am debating is just trolling though.
1st mistake: you started to attend church regularly.
2nd mistake: not accepting the peace bond.
3d mistake: giving some lawyer a $3,000 retainer.
To me it sounds by not accepting the peace bond that you're still in love and trying to hang on to this girl.
My advice is just move on
2nd mistake: not accepting the peace bond.
3d mistake: giving some lawyer a $3,000 retainer.
To me it sounds by not accepting the peace bond that you're still in love and trying to hang on to this girl.
My advice is just move on
Yes, That is what I meant by you can apply for a PB with a JP for anyone other then a spouse. I should have said hearing, however I did not know that result could be appealed. But then again, anyone can try to appeal anything so that should not surprise me.Correct, except if you, a civilian, apply for a Peace Bond against someone there will be a hearing in front of a Justice of a Peace and his result can be appealed.
A RO can be applied ex parte for a limited time but eventually you will have a hearing. To get a RO you have to have been married to the individual or lived with them for a period of time. OP claims he was issued a RO by the "church". Maybe if we were in 1813 that would be possible.
I think the person I am debating is just trolling though.
It was the "church" sending the RO that first through me off his post. I wish if people were going to post BS, they would at least make it a little more difficult to figure out. I guess I just like a challenge that way. LOL
Yes, That is what I meant by you can apply for a PB with a JP for anyone other then a spouse. I should have said hearing, however I did not know that result could be appealed. But then again, anyone can try to appeal anything so that should not surprise me.
It was the "church" sending the RO that first through me off his post. I wish if people were going to post BS, they would at least make it a little more difficult to figure out. I guess I just like a challenge that way. LOL
Yeah, the problem with PB is, and I have done 1000's, is that it is in front of a JP who can be legally trained or be a farmer. They usually (about 80% of the time) apply the law incorrectly. I have never lost an appealed PB in my life. Never. God bless Ontario JP's. Judges hate both RO and PB to be honest. Especially civilian initiated ones.
I don't know how you were able to read his mind and know that he meant PB when stating RO. It was not so obvious to me. What was obvious to me is that the post is most likely BS so I really could not be bother to get that into it in an in-depth manner personally. Maybe my lack of effort into entertaining BS is why his obvious meanings became irrelevant to me.when OP said "restraining order", it's pretty obvious he was referring to a peace bond, which is what general restraining orders are typically referred to in canada. he also said he wasn't charged with any criminal offence, so he wouldn't be on bail, and therefore would not have any bail conditions. he was probably mistaken when he said he was arrested - perhaps he was "detained" when he was given the peace bond to sign. since he refused to sign it, what he is likely going to have now is a show cause hearing under s. 810, where both parties will have the opportunity to show cause as to why a peace bond should or should not be laid.
the family law act is clearly not relevant here.
the church is probably only helping the ex lay the peace bond, as normally the complainant has to lay the peace bond themselves, unless they are doing it for their spouse or child. the OP probably just thinks the church is responsible since they are the ones encouraging the ex to issue the peace bond and providing witnesses.
you're welcome.
I do think though that someone just got their panties in a bunch here, but sweetie I don't need either your welcoming or your passive aggressive tone. Clearly, I, you, and others understand the difference now between ROs & PBs. The rest is just BS or technical words games which I have nor the time or desire to continue to involve myself in.
Enjoy your bullshit and bravado thread, I have no desire to continue feeding the fire here.
So you are actually welcome my dear. Have a good day.
I agree. Especially the bold. Take care, and catch you in another thread. This one has lost more then its appeal.Yeah, the problem with PB is, and I have done 1000's, is that it is in front of a JP who can be legally trained or be a farmer. They usually (about 80% of the time) apply the law incorrectly. I have never lost an appealed PB in my life. Never. God bless Ontario JP's. Judges hate both RO and PB to be honest. Especially civilian initiated ones.
What is a Rstraining Order?
A restraining order is a court order that limits what a person can do in any way the family court thinks is appropriate to your situation. The order might limit where a person can go, or who they can contact or communicate with. For example, it can say one or more of these things:
your partner cannot come within 500 metres of you and your children
your partner cannot talk to or contact you or your children except through an agency or another person
your partner cannot come within 500 metres of your home and work
You might be able to get a restraining order even if your partner has never been charged with a crime, if the charge has not been dealt with, or the criminal court did not find him guilty.
Your lawyer can ask the court for a restraining order. If you need a restraining order right away, go to your nearest family court and ask for help from the duty counsel or advice counsel lawyer. You might also be able to get help from a Family Court Support Worker. For more information, see Legal services for victims of violence.
A restraining order is made in family court. But breaking any of the conditions in the order is a criminal offence. If your partner breaks any of the conditions, he can be arrested by the police, charged, and held for a bail hearing. For more information, see What is a bail hearing?
Bail hearing: when the person charged with a crime goes to court after they have been arrested. At court, they ask a judge or a justice of the peace to decide whether the police can continue to keep them in jail, or whether they must let them go.
The person may be let go with "conditions" that they must follow. For example, the court might order them to stay away from their partner. One advantage of a restraining order is that it can be made for a certain period of time, even for several years.
Who can apply
You can apply for a restraining order against your partner if at least one of these is true:
you were married to your partner
you lived together with your partner for any period of time
you have a child who is in your custody
If none of these situations apply to you, you could ask for a peace bond. Anyone can apply for a peace bond. For more information, see What is a peace bond?
Conditions in a restraining order
Tell your lawyer what kind of protection you need. For example, you can ask the judge to order your partner to stop calling you, or stop having his friends or relatives call you for him. Sometimes, the judge might order that your partner cannot come within a certain distance of your home, workplace, or the children’s school. All of these conditions and others can be part of a restraining order.
Applying for a restraining order
To apply for a restraining order, you will have to prepare some written documents, including an application and a Canadian Policy Information Centre Restraining Order Information Form. This form includes information about your partner that makes it easier for the police to identify him. The judge marks a box beside the conditions that apply to your case. The judge might also write in any additional conditions.
If you are applying for a restraining order without a lawyer and you need more information, you can read A Self-Help Guide: How to make an application for a restraining order. If you need help with this application, contact a shelter or community legal clinic or talk to duty counsel.
After you get a restraining order
Keep a certified copy of the restraining order with you at all times. The police need to see the restraining order before they can do anything if your partner doesn’t follow it.
You might also want to give a copy to other people. For example, if there is a condition that your partner cannot contact your child, you should give a copy of the restraining order to your child’s teacher or principal so that they can show it to the police if your partner tries to pick up your child from school.
A restraining order is a court order that limits what a person can do in any way the family court thinks is appropriate to your situation. The order might limit where a person can go, or who they can contact or communicate with. For example, it can say one or more of these things:
your partner cannot come within 500 metres of you and your children
your partner cannot talk to or contact you or your children except through an agency or another person
your partner cannot come within 500 metres of your home and work
You might be able to get a restraining order even if your partner has never been charged with a crime, if the charge has not been dealt with, or the criminal court did not find him guilty.
Your lawyer can ask the court for a restraining order. If you need a restraining order right away, go to your nearest family court and ask for help from the duty counsel or advice counsel lawyer. You might also be able to get help from a Family Court Support Worker. For more information, see Legal services for victims of violence.
A restraining order is made in family court. But breaking any of the conditions in the order is a criminal offence. If your partner breaks any of the conditions, he can be arrested by the police, charged, and held for a bail hearing. For more information, see What is a bail hearing?
Bail hearing: when the person charged with a crime goes to court after they have been arrested. At court, they ask a judge or a justice of the peace to decide whether the police can continue to keep them in jail, or whether they must let them go.
The person may be let go with "conditions" that they must follow. For example, the court might order them to stay away from their partner. One advantage of a restraining order is that it can be made for a certain period of time, even for several years.
Who can apply
You can apply for a restraining order against your partner if at least one of these is true:
you were married to your partner
you lived together with your partner for any period of time
you have a child who is in your custody
If none of these situations apply to you, you could ask for a peace bond. Anyone can apply for a peace bond. For more information, see What is a peace bond?
Conditions in a restraining order
Tell your lawyer what kind of protection you need. For example, you can ask the judge to order your partner to stop calling you, or stop having his friends or relatives call you for him. Sometimes, the judge might order that your partner cannot come within a certain distance of your home, workplace, or the children’s school. All of these conditions and others can be part of a restraining order.
Applying for a restraining order
To apply for a restraining order, you will have to prepare some written documents, including an application and a Canadian Policy Information Centre Restraining Order Information Form. This form includes information about your partner that makes it easier for the police to identify him. The judge marks a box beside the conditions that apply to your case. The judge might also write in any additional conditions.
If you are applying for a restraining order without a lawyer and you need more information, you can read A Self-Help Guide: How to make an application for a restraining order. If you need help with this application, contact a shelter or community legal clinic or talk to duty counsel.
After you get a restraining order
Keep a certified copy of the restraining order with you at all times. The police need to see the restraining order before they can do anything if your partner doesn’t follow it.
You might also want to give a copy to other people. For example, if there is a condition that your partner cannot contact your child, you should give a copy of the restraining order to your child’s teacher or principal so that they can show it to the police if your partner tries to pick up your child from school.
Judges hate issuing restraining orders against a current or former spouse/partner who has intentions of harming a spouse/partner or a child. Hmmm, that sounds like a pretty stupid statement to me. And for a woman to agree with that statement. Says a lot about her. I would add a lol but violence against women and children is not a laughing matter.
Just keep on white knighting and posting Wiki links. Stick to the simple stuff.Judges hate issuing restraining orders against a current or former spouse/partner who has intentions of harming a spouse/partner or a child. Hmmm, that sounds like a pretty stupid statement to me. And for a woman to agree with that statement. Says a lot about her. I would add a lol but violence against women and children is not a laughing matter.
PS. The same Wiki section has been posted 3x already. Want to go for a fourth?
Not white knighting. Just posting the facts as they relate to the scenario the OP started, no matter whether it is bs or not. It must be tough to pretend you know what you are talking about. That, I will add a lol because frankly, your comments deserve that, LOL!
The only place you have handled thousands of PB's is being on the wrong end of a peace bond or restraining order or stuffing your face with the sandwiches,lol.
The only place you have handled thousands of PB's is being on the wrong end of a peace bond or restraining order or stuffing your face with the sandwiches,lol.
See this is where you show your age (either under 16 or over 80): If I have been "subject" to many RO, this means I am also subject to many GF and Wives. So I have something going for me. You? You only have to worry about PB, DO designations and no trespass orders near places where children frequent.Not white knighting. Just posting the facts as they relate to the scenario the OP started, no matter whether it is bs or not. It must be tough to pretend you know what you are talking about. That, I will add a lol because frankly, your comments deserve that, LOL!
The only place you have handled thousands of PB's is being on the wrong end of a peace bond or restraining order or stuffing your face with the sandwiches,lol.
And what else do you do with sandwiches? Just curious. I usually stuff my face with them,
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