I bet they were peaceful celebrations.....i can understand the cheering, its regretable but i can understand it. did the media have to show that? it can only lead to further troubles
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I bet they were peaceful celebrations.....i can understand the cheering, its regretable but i can understand it. did the media have to show that? it can only lead to further troubles
i am sure they were but thats not the point.I bet they were peaceful celebrations.....
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OK, but let's give Robin Williams credit for that joke.... as I remember it the first part was OBL shows up and St. Peter says "Jesus your cab is here...."I've never wished to hear of anyone's death, but his is an obitutary I rather enjoyed reading. And if God has a sense of humor, he'd have 72 "good ol' boy" Virginians waiting on his ass. Imagine the look on bin Laden's stupid face when instead of 72 virgins he finds Thomas Jefferson and the other framers or the US constitution waiting to put a beating on his sorry ass.
I think I didOK, but let's give Robin Williams credit for that joke.... as I remember it the first part was OBL shows up and St. Peter says "Jesus your cab is here...."
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I think I didOK, but let's give Robin Williams credit for that joke.... as I remember it the first part was OBL shows up and St. Peter says "Jesus your cab is here...."
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You want drama, try ANYTHING on the Faux network.Who needs soap operas, when you have CNN news?
I disagree. I thought the cheering was terrific, 10 years late to show those pigs, murderers, etc. whom cheered at the tragedy (from those crazy, maniacal, tyrannical nations).agreed, cheering was in poor taste....
"There's dignity in silence."I disagree. I thought the cheering was terrific, 10 years late to show those pigs, murderers, etc. whom cheered at the tragedy (from those crazy, maniacal, tyrannical nations).
This time, it was the same style of cheering when Rocky punched out Apollo Creed in the first "Rocky". And it was long awaited.
Gyaos Baltar.
Unfortunate that she didn't take her own advice very much sooner."There's dignity in silence."
Princess Diana
"It's more fun to arrive [at] a conclusion than to justify it." Malcolm Forbes"There's dignity in silence."
Princess Diana
I didn't get anything like that from the article. They seem to be saying that they were the ones who provided some of the core intelligence that led to his capture. That is a claim that Obama appears to have made as well, though perhaps others have disputed.Funny article (IMO) as the anniversary approaches:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...eath/2012/04/27/gIQANaU7lT_story.html?hpid=z2
Pakistan really should be saying "Since you didn't tell us you were coming for him, we didn't have the opportunity to have tipped him off, so in that sense we're responsible for his death"
Good old Fuji the last friend the ISI has in the West.I didn't get anything like that from the article. They seem to be saying that they were the ones who provided some of the core intelligence that led to his capture. That is a claim that Obama appears to have made as well, though perhaps others have disputed.
Obama: “It’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding.”Good old Fuji the last friend the ISI has in the West.
I don't suppose it occurs to you that Obama was trying to put a smiley face on the level of cooperation from the Pakistanis, to placate them for having been kept in the dark about the raid? As I said before, it's bloody obvious the Obama administration didn't trust them, and for good reason.Obama: “It’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding.”
I'm simply stating the facts. That you appear to take issue with the facts, for ideological reasons, says a lot about you. You've got it backwards--the facts should inform ideology, not the other way around.
You don't believe they got useful information from Pakistan? I find it incredible if they did not. Why is that fact controversial?I don't suppose it occurs to you that Obama was trying to put a smiley face on the level of cooperation from the Pakistanis, to placate them for having been kept in the dark about the raid? As I said before, it's bloody obvious the Obama administration didn't trust them, and for good reason.
You don't believe they got useful information from Pakistan? I find it incredible if they did not. Why is that fact controversial?
In the article Seth mentions ISI appears to be saying that they provided information to the Americans, and it was the Americans that stopped co-operating. You appear to be agreeing with them, mostly, and adding on your justification for the end of that co-operation. But the fact remains that they likely did provide some of the key information that led to bin Laden's capture. Whether they would ALSO have tipped him off is another question.
Which is a different claim. You and Aardvark were taking issue with the point that the ISI provided intelligence to the Americans that wound up being useful in his capture.Yeah, well. I find it incredible that Bin Laden could live in their country for 9 years, the last 6 in the compound he was shot in, and nobody in Pakistani intelligence was any the wiser.






