There's an 18,000 lbs Chinese space station which could possibly crash into Toronto

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Phil C. McNasty

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There's an 18,000 lbs Chinese space station which could possibly crash into Toronto.
And if the 200 lb fragments dont get you, the cancer-causing hydrazine will :yo:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...map-tracks-control-Chinese-space-station.html

An out-of-control Chinese space station carrying 'highly toxic' chemicals could crash into Earth between March 30 and April 6.

Now, an interactive map from SatView http://www.satview.org/?sat_id=37820U allows you to track its fiery demise in real-time.

There are two maps available; the largest one shows the past path and the predicted path as a series of dots, whilst the smaller inset map shows the space station's exact location above Earth at any given moment.

According to experts tracking the space station, it has the highest chance of crashing into cities along a narrow strip around latitudes of 43 degrees north and south.

This includes a number of highly populated cities including New York, Barcelona, Beijing, Chicago, Istanbul, Rome and Toronto.

At the time of writing, SatView predicts that Tiangong-1 should reenter the atmosphere at 07:37 GMT on the 3rd April over New Zealand
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Phil C. McNasty

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Aardvark154 said:
Perhaps one way of addressing the PRC's balance of payments?
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If a chunk of it smashes into your house, could you sue the Chinese government in The Hague??
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
If a chunk of it smashes into your house, could you sue the Chinese government in The Hague??
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Stack Exchange answer:

According to the Article VIII of the Outer Space Treaty:

A State Party to the Treaty on whose registry an object launched into outer space is carried shall retain jurisdiction and control over such object, and over any personnel thereof, while in outer space or on a celestial body. Ownership of objects launched into outer space, including objects landed or constructed on a celestial body, and of their component parts, is not affected by their presence in outer space or on a celestial body or by their return to the Earth. Such objects or component parts found beyond the limits of the State Party of the Treaty on whose registry they are carried shall be returned to that State Party, which shall, upon request, furnish identifying data prior to their return.
So the launching nation holds property rights and is responsible for space debris they generate. Five years later, the 1972 "Space Liability Convention" (in it's full title the Convention on International Liability for Damage Caused by Space Objects, PDF) was based on the Article VIII of the OST and further provisions it, but sadly isn't specific about space debris in any part. And establishing whose debris caused damage isn't exactly equal to establishing origins of some part that fell on someone's land and you can analyze in laboratories. It isn't even clear if orbital debris tracking facilities (say, NORAD) are legally obliged to share data on their origins in cases where it could hold the country running these facilities liable for damages to another country. And so on.

This and the fact that this issue is grossly under-regulated since mentioned first efforts were signed and ratified, and no internationally ratified law sufficiently addresses liability specifics as they pertain to orbital debris, comes with many interesting legal implications. But that's now over 47 years long and really tiring story so I won't bore you with all the details.

For a nice overview I'd suggest UNIDIR's Outer Space Security Conference Series, e.g. the Space Security 2014: Implementation and Compliance one has some really interesting talks on the subject. Also check for related activities under umbrella of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA).
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Phil C. McNasty said:
There's an 18,000 lbs Chinese space station which could possibly crash into Toronto.
And if the 200 lb fragments dont get you, the cancer-causing hydrazine will :yo:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...map-tracks-control-Chinese-space-station.html



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BS news... don't believe in any of the British medias, they are all BS and propaganda. That how the British people worked when they started to colonize other countries around the world by using the BS propaganda.

They kept listing a bunch of well known cities in every corner of the earth and said those cities are the target of space station's crash LOL. It's all BS with propaganda to create more hatred and blames on the Chinese and China. The British won over the Chinese during the Opium War in the past. Now the British is not so sure whether they can win over the Chinese again so they keep spreading these propaganda news against the Chinese.

There are probably more than tens of thousands of space debris and trash in the space right now and many of them probably crash into the earth atmosphere perhaps every month which mostly burned out when entering the earth atmosphere.
 
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NiceToMeetYou said:
BS news... don't believe in any of the British medias, they are all BS and propaganda. That how the British people worked when they started to colonize other countries around the world by using the BS propaganda.

They kept listing a bunch of well known cities in every corner of the earth and said those cities are the target of space station's crash LOL. It's all BS with propaganda to create more hatred and blames on the Chinese and China. The British won over the Chinese during the Opium War in the past. Now the British is not so sure whether they can win over the Chinese again so they keep spreading these propaganda news against the Chinese.

There are probably more than tens of thousands of space debris and trash in the space right now and many of them probably crash into the earth atmosphere perhaps every month which mostly burned out when entering the earth atmosphere.
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Drugs or delusional?
 
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It would be ironic if it landed in the area bounded by Spadina and McCaul west to east and Dundas to Queen north to south.
 
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Given that link, it doesn't seem like North America is even in it's trajectory at all, so why are Chicago, New York, and Toronto at risk?
 
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rhuarc29 said:
Given that link, it doesn't seem like North America is even in it's trajectory at all, so why are Chicago, New York, and Toronto at risk?
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I think you were looking at the wrong part of the map, its the 2 red bands where its most likely to hit

 
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The trajectory has changed. Toronto is now out of the danger zone

 
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http://blogs.esa.int/rocketscience/2018/03/26/tiangong-1-reentry-updates/

Update 11:00 CET, 31 March 2018

The space debris team at ESA have adapted their reentry forecast over the last 24 hr to take into consideration the conditions of low solar activity. New data received overnight gave further confirmation that the forecast window is moving to later on 1 April.

The team now are forecasting a window centred around 23:25 UTC on 1 April (01:25 CEST 2 April), and running from the afternoon of 1 April to the early morning on 2 April. This remains highly variable
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Don't know how accurate it is, but heard Sunday just off the coast of Chile, perhaps hitting southern Chile.
 
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I hope it crashes into Mara Lago...that place is a shit hole.
 
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