The Ukrainian offensive starts

WyattEarp

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With Trump getting into the White House, I think the 2/3 majority would be difficult. I don't think enough republicans would stand up to a Trump that actually got voted in, he is one nasty person if you turn against him, I mean sure Nixon has an enemies list but Trump is next level vindictive.
Did you see "the Wall" go up when the Republicans controlled Congress under Trump? He never got everything he wanted. It's the nature of our Federal government.
 

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Then, you would have to explain to us why more counts makes for a stronger case. Perhaps while you are at it, you can explain how insulting other members makes for a stronger argument.
More counts don't "make for a stronger case". Normally prosecutors charge all the counts that could conceivably fit the evidence. That way, no matter how the evidence unfolds in a trial, the appropriate charges are before the court.

Make sense now?

All lawyers do this. For instance, the standard statement of claim for an auto accident case will extensively list all the ways that the driver can be at fault in an accident - so no matter how the evidence unfolds in a trial, the appropriate claims are before the court.

It's just being professionally competent and thorough.

Maybe if you don't understand a topic, you shouldn't try and argue it out with people who do.
 
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WyattEarp

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Debatable.

They HAD to win World War Two because Adolpho was going to genocide them.

The 3 previous wars hadn't gone so well. The Crimean War (1852-1854) was the usual debacle of corruption and incompetence and was hopelessly lost. To keep power, the Czar had to liberate the serfs.

The Russo-Japanese War (1905) was the usual debacle of corruption and incompetence and was hopelessly lost. It led to street demonstrations which the Czar dealt with by massacring the demonstrators. But then the Czar was forced to grant a limited democratic government.

World War One was the usual debacle of corruption and incompetence and was hopelessly lost. Oh and the czar was dethroned and killed with his family.
Excellent post on Russia's military history. I think I remember hearing in WW2 many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis, but after seeing them in action decided the Soviets were the better of two evils.
 
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Excellent post on Russia's military history. I think I remember hearing in WW2 many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis, but after seeing them in action decided the Soviets were the better of two evils.
Many continued to work for the Nazis and the Nazis raised 2 SS divisions from Ukrainian troops. Lots of hidden history that few in the west know. If JC isn't just trolling, he knows some more details.
 

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…All lawyers do this.
It's just being professionally competent and thorough.

Maybe if you don't understand a topic, you shouldn't try and argue it out with people who do.
I wonder whether those who understand should be arguing with those who don’t. So much casting pearls before swines here
 
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So you do not feel abortion rights are an albatross around the neck of Repugs eh?
They are and eventually they will have to work out a compromising middle ground. That might take a Republican President to marshal the Republicans in Congress. mandrill and others think abortion will be a big issue in 2024. I don't think it will be as important as the midterms where there is less participation. Midterm elections tend to be by ideological driven and/or motivated by an overriding issue like abortion.

From what I understand, neither the United States or Canada enacted national legislation on abortion. The Courts ruled on it and it became de facto law. The recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling basically said their was no Constitutional law protecting abortion rights. Thus, kicking it back to the States.
 

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They are and eventually they will have to work out a compromising middle ground. That might take a Republican President to marshal the Republicans in Congress. mandrill and others think abortion will be a big issue in 2024. I don't think it will be as important as the midterms where there is less participation. Midterm elections tend to be by ideological driven and/or motivated by an overriding issue like abortion.

From what I understand, neither the United States or Canada enacted national legislation on abortion. The Courts ruled on it and it became de facto law. The recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling basically said their was no Constitutional law protecting abortion rights. Thus, kicking it back to the States.
In Canada, no party had the balls to legislate on a deeply divisive issue like abortion and it was simply left unlegislated. That's the real reason why Canada has no abortion law at all.
 
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WyattEarp

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I wonder whether those who understand should be arguing with those who don’t. So much casting pearls before swines here
Isn't it kind of silly and somewhat self-indulgent to cheerlead for other members in discussions? mandrill is merely offering his opinion dressed up as expert fact. You can choose to agree, but don't bestow too many of your valuable pearls.
 
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WyattEarp

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In Canada, no party had the balls to legislate on a deeply divisive issue like abortion and it was simply left unlegislated. That's the real reason why Canada has no abortion law at all.
I think that was always part of the problem here at the Federal level. I don't care for State's rights in many matters of government policy. Abortion would be one of them.
 

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Excellent post on Russia's military history. I think I remember hearing in WW2 many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis, but after seeing them in action decided the Soviets were the better of two evils.
If you lived under Stalin in Ukraine, you'd welcome the Nazis, too. Add to that the Ukrainian nationalism, especially in the Western Ukraine, and you have a cauldron of death and hate in your hands. The Ukrainian nationalists committed ghastly crimes on the non Ukrainians and they paid the righteous price for it when the Soviets rolled over them. They should be uniformly condemned for that. Seeing the modern Ukrainian embrace people like Bandera, celebrating the "achievements " of their independence movement, seeing the symbols on the Ukrainian uniforms, make the honest historians and those few survivers still alive literally sick.
 

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Frank is essentially a shade of Marxist. A few years back, he was spraying these pages with anti-Western, anti-capitalism themes. He was literally getting no response here. Sharing disdain for Trump with others gave him TERB friends.
How many people have you convinced of anything on this board, wyatt?

I have tussled with attorneys on social media.
Why do I think that's gone as well as Dutch Oven's election litigation thread?
Similar level of expertise and Dunning Kruger confidence?

Did you see "the Wall" go up when the Republicans controlled Congress under Trump? He never got everything he wanted. It's the nature of our Federal government.
So rump was incompetent as a president?
 

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Cue up the arguing on the internet is like memes.
I could be arguing in my spare time.

Ukraine was a divided nation, Western Ukraine was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. They alligned with Poland in the hope for independence, Lviv passed from Empire to Poland.

 

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I could be arguing in my spare time.

Ukraine was a divided nation, Western Ukraine was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. They alligned with Poland in the hope for independence, Lviv passed from Empire to Poland.

It didn't "pass", it returned. LWOW was NEVER an Ukrainian city by any stretch of imagination until Stalin "gifted" it to himself after WW2.
 

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If you lived under Stalin in Ukraine, you'd welcome the Nazis, too. Add to that the Ukrainian nationalism, especially in the Western Ukraine, and you have a cauldron of death and hate in your hands. The Ukrainian nationalists committed ghastly crimes on the non Ukrainians and they paid the righteous price for it when the Soviets rolled over them. They should be uniformly condemned for that. Seeing the modern Ukrainian embrace people like Bandera, celebrating the "achievements " of their independence movement, seeing the symbols on the Ukrainian uniforms, make the honest historians and those few survivers still alive literally sick.
Now tell us about the Polish White Army and what they did in return to the Ukrainians.
 

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It didn't "pass", it returned. LWOW was NEVER an Ukrainian city by any stretch of imagination until Stalin "gifted" it to himself after WW2.
It was. Poles probably still won't admit that though.
 

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Frank is essentially a shade of Marxist. A few years back, he was spraying these pages with anti-Western, anti-capitalism themes. He was literally getting no response here. Sharing disdain for Trump with others gave him TERB friends.
Don't you object to member insulting other members in your very next post? And here you go insulting Frankie who is a smart and interesting member of this board.

Sometimes you confuse me, Earp.
 

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