4 million mid west Christian Solders are going to put their morals above their politics and stay home. 5.5 million US poker players are voting Democrat.DonQuixote said:November 8th will be a very interesting morning
to listen to the news.
4 million mid west Christian Solders are going to put their morals above their politics and stay home. 5.5 million US poker players are voting Democrat.DonQuixote said:November 8th will be a very interesting morning
to listen to the news.
Rational minds would see this the case, however we are not dealing with rational minds here. We are dealing with neocons, who in many ways think exactly like the RIFTs, both would prefer to just kill off the other side first. A Fundie is a Fundie, is a Fundie, be he Islamic, hardcore Militant Jew or Far Religious-Right Christian, as all three prouldy proclaim 'God is on our side'.DonQuixote said:The wind is out of the Rs sails.
They're without direction and their leadership
is hunkered down in bunkers. Bush, Cheney
and Hastert don't have much political capital
to pay their way out of the corner they're in.
But they will if many Republicans "covered it up", which is the case with Cardinal Hasterd and others including Boner (I mean Boehner).JoyfulC said:Will Republican voters across the US change their vote because of what one Representative from Florida did? I somehow doubt it...
It's even worse, in a way. This disaster is a direct consequence of W's utterly mistaken, even criminally irresponsible policies. Yet what his Admin does, superbly, is channel the panic engendered by their own mistakes to their own advantage, Having directly caused this mess, they will be able to turn around and say with a perfectly straight face, and say "see! we told you!" They've been getting away with this for years; we'll see if it works this time, too.WoodPeckr said:Watch for Rove & co., to exploit this N Korean nuke test issue and rapidly ratchet up the fear & paranoia rhetoric for all they can as a means to shift public attention away from the DC page boys little 'non-nuke missiles' to the N Korean big 'nuke missiles'..........
Personally I can't stomach liars. When i see others who are accommodating toward these bold faced lies, it makes me wonder about the shape of things there. What I have observed, is a 'win at all cost' attitude. The most shameful tact they took, which fits with yours above was to blame this on their political opposition for drawing it out at election time. The argument was the opposition knew about this weeks before and held back. Can you imagine? This doesn't say much about the party faithful in my opinion, that their leading spokesperson would even consider for one moment that this idea would fly. Dumb and dumber. It made me instantly paint the whole bunch with the same broad bush-brush. Zero credibility in the "truth matters" department. Not only sad, but dangerous. These guys are crooks and they are weasels ..the type that stalk your chickens by night, and persist to get into the hen house any which way they can. the whole political system in America needs to be trashed, and start over. Elect some farmers, anybody with a law degree is out. Anybody with Big Business contacts, out. Turn the government back to the folks for awhile. Oprah...anybody but this decadent, unconscionable, unethical den of weasels.maxweber said:It's even worse, in a way. This disaster is a direct consequence of W's utterly mistaken, even criminally irresponsible policies. Yet what his Admin does, superbly, is channel the panic engendered by their own mistakes to their own advantage, Having directly caused this mess, they will be able to turn around and say with a perfectly straight face, and say "see! we told you!" They've been getting away with this for years; we'll see if it works this time, too.
MW
According to your statement the Republicans would stay in power after November 5th.JoyfulC said:Having been watching this whole thing go down, I've come to the conclusion that the Republicans are exploiting it way more than the Democrats.
Will Republican voters across the US change their vote because of what one Representative from Florida did? I somehow doubt it. I even doubt that voters in his own district will be so disgusted that they'll vote Democrat -- after all, they're not voting on family values there but on tax breaks.
I think Republicans did face a lot of problems due to corruption scandals and to Iraq, and I think their national security platform wasn't working. By offering up Foley -- a gay with a taste for young stuff (although not a pedophile by definition), they've re-energized voters in the districts to focus on the local question.
I think this is going to work for them. And you know why? Because I think people get the government they deserve. And I think the American public is so weak as to deserve the Republican party.
Good luck to the US of A.
..c..
You see that's the problem in the United States. If he sent emails to female pages that are underage, it's against the law for influencing a minor. If the page is an adult, then it's sexual harrassement (and since most females in the USA are fat hogs, it's hard to find an adult female babe to send sexy messages to....including Bush Jr.'s wire tapping). Therefore no one gets laid in the USA, so we end up getting freaks like Foley, and dangerous assholes like Cardinal Hastard and Boner (I mean Boehner) that cover it up for it to continue.Carcharias said:Makes no difference whether the fellow is gay or not. If he were hetero, and was sending suggestive emails to female pages, that would be out of line too.
Some of the "freaks" end up on this board and start posting useless rants...Gyaos said:Therefore no one gets laid in the USA, so we end up getting freaks like Foley, and dangerous assholes like Cardinal Hastard and Boner (I mean Boehner) that cover it up for it to continue.
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Would it help to know that I am an American?frasier said:According to your statement the Republicans would stay in power after November 5th.
I beg to differ and I resent your comments on all Americans. I would never make a statement like that about Canadians, based on on questionable leader.
Or are you saying that Canadian politics is all corrupt now, because of the Ad-scandal?
Although come to think of it...90% of politics is corrupt, and not just in the USA.
Before you put all americans in to one pot.. I suggest you get to know a few first.
Yep, and eventually the level of sophistication among voters will catch up. I just hope the level of hacking at Diebold doesn't catch up faster.Carcharias said:Joyful, I don't think too many thinking people would disagree with you on this one.
The issue, at least as I see it, is the way that the present Republican cabal talks out of both sides of it's mouth.
On one side, they're all for "family values" and "Christian goodwill" and all the rest. Meanwhile, they're sending off provocative - and secret - emails and messages to pages in their employ.
What's worse, IMHO, is that fellows like Hastert knew about it but did nothing, just like Dubya did nothing about Bin Laden despite being implored by Richard Clarke for a meeting on the subject.
So it's not just the sending of naughty messages that's the issue; it's the damn hypocricy of it, all for political and personal gain, at the expense of the honour of the Executive and Legislative branches.
Nice paragraph. It couldn't be summed better.Carcharias said:So it's not just the sending of naughty messages that's the issue; it's the damn hypocricy of it, all for political and personal gain, at the expense of the honour of the Executive and Legislative branches.
Unfortunately, it is also true that the Dem's do the same with their more open view on homosexuality yet http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/13/141337/58Carcharias said:...
The issue, at least as I see it, is the way that the present Republican cabal talks out of both sides of it's mouth.
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The new Robin Williams movie has it right wit the line about politicians (no matter what view) and diapers.The best thing for the whole country is to force the Republican Party to "out" every gay on their side of the aisle in Congress, whether on staff or a politician.
scroll99 said:Priest Claims Relationship With Foley
A Catholic priest told The Sarasota Herald-Tribune on Wednesday that he had an intimate two-year relationship with former Representative Mark Foley of south Florida when Mr. Foley was a teenage altar boy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/19/w...&en=e7d991d1a8c64cdf&ei=5094&partner=homepage
They actually had the priest on telephone interview on CNN tonight. It was interesting (shocking) to here a priest talk about a couple of "dating" (for want of a more appropriate word) encounters with a young boy live on CNN. Even more shocking was the tone of the conversation, he was very blasé about the affair. Sounded more like a Terb review...' Well, no actual penetration occured....just fondling.." (the tone was, so what's all the fuss anyway)scroll99 said:Priest Claims Relationship With Foley
A Catholic priest told The Sarasota Herald-Tribune on Wednesday that he had an intimate two-year relationship with former Representative Mark Foley of south Florida when Mr. Foley was a teenage altar boy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/19/w...&en=e7d991d1a8c64cdf&ei=5094&partner=homepage