The Pope has passed .....
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Ad majorem dei gloriam Pater, pax tecum.
( - To the greater glory of God Father, may peace be with you )
( - To the greater glory of God Father, may peace be with you )
001 said:It's a sad day for the world.
Maybe for the catholic world. Don't get me wrong, I feel for anyones family going through a death, but the most of non-catholic world views the papacy/vatican and the catholic church with contempt.
Actually the Pope was quite respected around the world by people of all faiths.Spode said:Maybe for the catholic world. Don't get me wrong, I feel for anyones family going through a death, but the most of non-catholic world views the papacy/vatican and the catholic church with contempt.
Even the people who don't follow any religion (like myself) have some respect for the pope.
From my experience it is usually only the people who specifically have issues against organized religion like christianity who viewed the pope with contempt. Since roughly 90% of the world follows some form of organized religion, I think it is false that most of the non-catholic world viewed the pope with contempt.
Let me start by saying that I am not religious. I think it is a sad day for the world because we lost a great man. John Paul II had a vision for world peace and fairness to all fellow humans. He believed in equality regardless of your religious beliefs. Unlike previous popes he reached out to leaders of different religious (ie Jews and Muslims) and tried to find common grounds on which they could all work towards building a better world.For that alone he earned my respect.Spode said:Maybe for the catholic world. Don't get me wrong, I feel for anyones family going through a death, but the most of non-catholic world views the papacy/vatican and the catholic church with contempt.
Regardless of peoples’ religion or ideology nothing can take that away form him
I am a christian, but not catholic. My contempt has more to do with the treatment of non-catholics over the centuries, the abuse of power of the vatican, their alignment and complacency with the NAZi's in WWII and lastly their covert attempts at undermining other religions across the world.Don said:Actually the Pope was quite respected around the world by people of all faiths.
Even the people who don't follow any religion (like myself) have some respect for the pope.
From my experience it is usually only the people who specifically have issues against organized religion like christianity who viewed the pope with contempt. Since roughly 90% of the world follows some form of organized religion, I think it is false that most of the non-catholic world viewed the pope with contempt.
Be on guard for the evil one taking advantage of the hiatus between popes, be very careful of being tempted in novel ways. Lucifer will be busily trying to subvert normally well behaved ladies during the runup to electing a new holy father. This is an exceedingly dangerous time. Please be vigilant, girls!
Church has committed a lot of wrongs in the past ans probably still do. Just like every other religion (including protestant christianity) or any nation in the world.Spode said:I am a christian, but not catholic. My contempt has more to do with the treatment of non-catholics over the centuries, the abuse of power of the vatican, their alignment and complacency with the NAZi's in WWII and lastly their covert attempts at undermining other religions across the world.
JPII has reached out more to other faiths and apologized more than any other pope in history. I have to give him some respect for that. I'm not a fan of organized religious as I tend to have the Jesse Ventura way of thinking regarding organized religions but it doesn't mean I have to hold religious figues in contempt
This Pope was amazing. He had a huge influence over the fall of Communism in Poland and was one of the factors that helped Communism collapse. Spode other then Communists I can't see why anyone would dislike this Pope. He apologized to the Jewish community about the sins of the Church and vehemently opposed and preached against anti-semitism. I saw a speech of his when he was younger almost brings a tear to your eye when he preaches against anti-semitism. Surprisingly he seems even well liked by the Palestinians.
Yes, one of the most powerful moments of this is when he prayed at the West Wall in Jerusalem, as is custom with Jews, and ask God to forgive the Catholic Church for the history sins committed against the Jews.Marco said:He apologized to the Jewish community about the sins of the Church and vehemently opposed and preached against anti-semitism. I saw a speech of his when he was younger almost brings a tear to your eye when he preaches against anti-semitism.
I don't agree with his conservative stance on social issues (at all) and don't particually like the church in general but like I said I can at least respect Karol Wojtyla as a man
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...=17&u=/ap/20050402/ap_on_re_mi_ea/pope_israel
Pope John Paul II will be remembered, amongst other things, as a well travelled man who worked tirelessly for the cause of peace. Even non-religious folks like me cannot help but think that the world has lost a good man. If the next Pope is at least half the man that John Paul II was., he will be a good one.
R.I.P.
R.I.P.
This is the same kind of pathertic bullshit Jews pull with WWII. Let it go!Spode said:I am a christian, but not catholic. My contempt has more to do with the treatment of non-catholics over the centuries, the abuse of power of the vatican, their alignment and complacency with the NAZi's in WWII and lastly their covert attempts at undermining other religions across the world.
No matter what religion or ethnic background you are from your people were oppressed/persecuted/massacred by my people and vice versa sometime in recorded history.
Ryan
