Haha that could be said about most US presidents. But respecting the flag is the reason why all US presidents stand during the anthem, including Trump.
The NFL boycott is real Look what's happening to this store
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Why would a bunch of Canadians even care that some ignorant uneducated southerner wants to disrespect the US national anthem and declare themselves to be anti-Trump
Talk about utter irrelevance...
But alas this is Toronto who still has wet dreams about the NFL one day coming here
Talk about utter irrelevance...
But alas this is Toronto who still has wet dreams about the NFL one day coming here
Not the right place to do it.
It's Sunday football. All these athletes messing around bringing politics into it are wrong. Take the political debate about Black people and cops elsewhere.
It's like staunch supporters of capital punishment/no capital punishment, or abortion/no abortion. All very important life changing actions and policies as well. If people want to debate it and support one side, go ahead. But don't bring that to a football game, where a national anthem is a standard practice at many sporting events. It's hypes people up for kick off, gives people something to respect (flag, military people who are usually there, etc...). Then it's kick off time.
Everyone jumping into muddying a national anthem with kneeling, locker room hold outs and such are diminishing the intent, which is some pre-kick off hype and a 3 hr chillfest where people relax and watch two teams. Something fun to do before going back to work the next day.
No need for politics to ruin it.
Some more good boys https://ca.yahoo.com/news/1-dead-1-critically-injured-110337171.html killing each other.
The flag is a hollow emblem if there is injustice, Trump is leading the USA toward Civil War.
And the protests are intensifying. The Carolina Panthers kicked the New England Patriots ass. Robert Kraft helped fund Trump's campaign and gave him an honourary Super Bowl ring. With each touchdown, Cam Newton gave the Black Power salute. The Patriots are going to get mauled this season.
And the protests are intensifying. The Carolina Panthers kicked the New England Patriots ass. Robert Kraft helped fund Trump's campaign and gave him an honourary Super Bowl ring. With each touchdown, Cam Newton gave the Black Power salute. The Patriots are going to get mauled this season.
From a 1943 Supreme Court case on whether kids at a school had to salute the flag as they passed it.
https://theconversation.com/trumps-...gnores-decades-of-supreme-court-rulings-84725
The US has been divided since the Bush / Obama days
The media is playing up the "huge" anti-Trump movement for ratings nothing else (hell they had this exact same debate when Bush won presidency despite having fewer total votes simply because he won states that mattered)
The other oddity is some peoples claims that somehow playing a national anthem is not political but the protests are political.... really a national anthem has no place at a sporting event either
It is rather oppressive how the US rams its values down people's throats who in this case just want to watch an inferior football product
NFL in Toronto will never happen (we don't have a stadium, we would lower tv ratings, and we certainly do not have the big bucks required)
The media is playing up the "huge" anti-Trump movement for ratings nothing else (hell they had this exact same debate when Bush won presidency despite having fewer total votes simply because he won states that mattered)
The other oddity is some peoples claims that somehow playing a national anthem is not political but the protests are political.... really a national anthem has no place at a sporting event either
It is rather oppressive how the US rams its values down people's throats who in this case just want to watch an inferior football product
There is still CFL and U Sports in Canada you realize
NFL in Toronto will never happen (we don't have a stadium, we would lower tv ratings, and we certainly do not have the big bucks required)
What a bunch of hyperbole. Trump didn't start this, Colon TakeADick did, last year, before Trump was even POTUS. Where's takeadick now? Probably flipping burgers at McDonalds. Don't get it twisted.
Patriots have been on top for so long, won the Bowl last year, you can only BE ON TOP for so long before its someone else's turn.
And YES, the NFL is going to suffer.
#StandfortheFlag
The right to peaceful protest covers everyone including players. As far as I know, there are no conditions (players can't do it, can't do it during the anthem, can't do it at work, etc.) to exercising those rights nor should there. If it's not right for players to protest while at work, then by extension it's not okay for ordinary workers to protest at work about issues like safety, hours of work, pay, etc. These two groups have have vastly different agendas, but they are still exercising their rights.
You should also know that employees have the many rights like filing a grievance (protest) and cannot be punished by their employer. Employees must have a certain amount of hours off from work, meal times, paid time off, public holidays off, etc. Employees have those rights because people in the past fought long and hard and protested to get them.
The reason to protest is to bring light to issues that the half-asleep masses don't know or care enough about. That's why you protest in public and not in the basement. If you want to make a statement, the best place to do it would be during a game watched by millions of people. Make no mistake that the players protested peacefully during the anthem. They were not rioting in the streets, damaging windows, burning police cars, or stopped the game to protest. The inconvenience to you (if you can even call it an inconvenience) is very minor. You give Steven Seagal way too much credit if you compare a minor inconvenience like this to being held hostage.
That being said, I think people should be careful where they choose to protest. It was irresponsible for the Tamils to block the Gardiner Expressway because people could have caused serious accidents.
It is far more disrespectful to the flag that we complain about people exercising their rights when we enjoy those same rights. If you don't think that's the case, then visit a place like Tianamen Square in Beijing, China where waving the wrong flag gets you thrown in jail without a trial.
You should also know that employees have the many rights like filing a grievance (protest) and cannot be punished by their employer. Employees must have a certain amount of hours off from work, meal times, paid time off, public holidays off, etc. Employees have those rights because people in the past fought long and hard and protested to get them.
The reason to protest is to bring light to issues that the half-asleep masses don't know or care enough about. That's why you protest in public and not in the basement. If you want to make a statement, the best place to do it would be during a game watched by millions of people. Make no mistake that the players protested peacefully during the anthem. They were not rioting in the streets, damaging windows, burning police cars, or stopped the game to protest. The inconvenience to you (if you can even call it an inconvenience) is very minor. You give Steven Seagal way too much credit if you compare a minor inconvenience like this to being held hostage.
That being said, I think people should be careful where they choose to protest. It was irresponsible for the Tamils to block the Gardiner Expressway because people could have caused serious accidents.
It is far more disrespectful to the flag that we complain about people exercising their rights when we enjoy those same rights. If you don't think that's the case, then visit a place like Tianamen Square in Beijing, China where waving the wrong flag gets you thrown in jail without a trial.
Oh, aren't you clever, making up a new name for someone.
What's wrong with flipping burgers at McD's, even for a multimillionaire like Colin Kaepernick?
#TakeAKnee
By the same right, they all have the right to kneel if they want unless their employer demands otherwise.
And yes, it is a tad fishy that a guy who refused to serve his country is more concerned about football players than doing his job.
I find it ironic that a guy like Trump who hides behind freedom of speech has a problem when others choose to express themselves in peaceful and lawful way.
Trump doesn't have to like it BUT it is their RIGHT to express themselves. Freedom of speech does have limits but the NFL players have not crossed those lines.
If you can't enjoy a game of football knowing that some players knelt then there's something wrong with you. But if it really does bother people that much then don't watch.
There's a time and place for political stuff. And at an event meant for fans and fun, it's not the right place.
If I have a political beef, it would be in poor taste to protest at someone's wedding or funeral. If I did something disrespectful, it wouldn't be illegal. And at worst, someone might tell me to leave. No cops will care or anything.
It's like ruined weddings or funerals where it's all about the bride and groom, or deceased person. You don't cause a scene and you should man up and show up and be respectful. If you hate it, complain when you get home. Yet, there's many ruined family events when someone does something stupid (cause a scene, not show up etc...). The are invited to take part in respectful celebration. So act the part and don't ruin it.
At work, you might think the CEO is the biggest ass. But if there's a big company meeting, you respect the guy and go with the flow. You don't sit there crossing your arms yawning, while everyone else claps when he's done his speech. Be mature and complain to him or HR on your own time after.
Right first you can't express your 1A right on college campuses without riots, then you must remove historical statues, those are racist, and now you can't listen to the god damned anthem without politicizing it, on the ONE DAY we could relax and watch a game after a long week's work without that BULLSHIT!!
Take your bloody protests where the institutional racism is, don't protest during the anthem. Stop HI-jacking sports!
#RealMenSTandFortheFlag
Keep it up.
Wow some of you are brick walls. Everyone knows the players and CK have the RIGHT to protest. The disagreement is on whether they SHOULD protest, and WHERE, and WHEN they should protest.
It was a stupid way to protest from the start and remains stupid.
It won't last. The players know where their bread is buttered and it's not from protesting political issues. CK wouldn't be able to give you the stats on what he's protesting because if he could, he'd know that he's making a gross exaggeration (yes, cops killing innocent citizens of any colour is a serious crime, and thankfully it's extremely rare). The culprits are media like CNN that replay a single killing 100s of times giving viewers the false impression that cops are killing hundreds or thousands of innocent people each year, because murder and controversy helps their ratings.
It was a stupid way to protest from the start and remains stupid.
It won't last. The players know where their bread is buttered and it's not from protesting political issues. CK wouldn't be able to give you the stats on what he's protesting because if he could, he'd know that he's making a gross exaggeration (yes, cops killing innocent citizens of any colour is a serious crime, and thankfully it's extremely rare). The culprits are media like CNN that replay a single killing 100s of times giving viewers the false impression that cops are killing hundreds or thousands of innocent people each year, because murder and controversy helps their ratings.
There is no freedom of speech in a private venue like the NFL. Anyone else would be fined for similar behavior. The only reason this is tolerated is because the players are black and the NFL doesn't have the balls to stand up to them for fear they will be accused of being racists by a bunch of whacko liberals. Political statements have no place in a private venue. How would you feel if the next time you got a Fedex package the delivery person demanded you listen to his or her view on abortion before they handed you your package?
Only one of a number of cases where the NFL has prohibited non approved endorsements.
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/da...llas-cowboys-wear-arm-arm-decal-helmets-games
