The "Let's piss on Ron De Santis" thread
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Like many discussions in the USA media (e.g., health care), education funding discussions are often dishonest.
For example, the pro-private schools always mention how they are more efficient and cost less. Yet public schools have to take all students, including learning disabled. A mate of mine, a public school teacher in USA said half their school budget was for special education programs for those kids. Private schools are not saddled w those costs. Hence cheaper.
A war on education is also correct. Teachers have to be arms of the political party, like in nazi Germany. Laws controlling their teaching deliberately written to be vague so it can be applied capriciously. Educators fleeing florida.
A black female DA who won her district with 67% of the vote campaigning on progressive ideas was implementing what she ran and won on, now replaced by one of DeSantis' lackeys.
This is tyranny. DeSantis has in fact simply disregarded the wishes of the voters.
It was a move to please the base - he's gonna be the tough guy to "put that darkie in her place" and squash the woke. Fuck the voters.
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Anime child porn is not criminalized in the states while it is criminalized in Canada. This issue is not as obvious as one may think. “Despicable” is a word that doesn’t mean much when we talk about sex. Is it not despicable to pee on your beloved partner or shit on their chest?
Ron DeSantis campaign suffers another blow after debate memos published (msn.com)
Seeking to resurrect his flagging US presidential campaign, Ron DeSantis suffered a major embarrassment when memos about his preparation for the first Republican debate were reported by the New York Times.
Related: Florida’s attacks on academic freedom just got even worse | Moira Donegan
Including advice not to attack the clear frontrunner, Donald Trump, the memos to the rightwing Florida governor ahead of the debate in Milwaukee next Wednesday were posted online by a consulting firm owned by Jeff Roe, chief strategist to Never Back Down, a Super Pac backing DeSantis.
Such documents are often published quietly, the Times said, to satisfy laws against such fundraising committees co-ordinating with candidates in private. In this case, someone tipped off the paper.
“There are four basic must-dos,” one memo advised:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/new...ame-for-republicans/vi-AA1fmsRp?ocid=msedgdhp
In the DeSantis memos, the governor was advised to “defend Trump when Chris Christie attacks him”.
He was offered a way to do so: “Trump isn’t here, so let’s just leave him alone. He’s too weak to defend himself here. We’re all running against him. I don’t think we want to join forces with someone on this stage [Christie] who’s auditioning for a show on MSNBC” – a left-leaning TV network.
DeSantis has long held second place in polling but in recent months, even as Trump has been hit with four indictments containing 91 criminal charges, the governor has slipped further and further behind.
DeSantis’s hold on second place is now threatened by Vivek Ramaswamy, a biotech entrepreneur. Advice lines publicised by the Times included the suggestion DeSantis should attack Ramaswamy on his past stances on abortion, immigration and Covid.
“Take a sledgehammer to Vivek Ramaswamy,” the memo said, advising DeSantis to coin a Trump-style nickname: “‘Fake Vivek’ Or ‘Vivek the Fake.’”
Elsewhere, the governor’s struggles to appear natural on the campaign trail were the subject of a lengthy Washington Post report, “Awkward Americans see themselves in Ron DeSantis”. The debate memos advised DeSantis to “invoke a personal anecdote story about family, kids, [his wife] Casey, showing emotion”.
In more worrying signs for DeSantis, private polling in the memos showed a 39-point drop in favorability rating with Republicans between March and August and a 15-point drop with voters asked for their second-choice candidate, to a tie with Ramaswamy and Tim Scott, the South Carolina senator.
One key memo was removed from the website after Never Back Down was asked for comment, the Times said – while publishing the document in pdf form.
DeSantis’s financial problems, as donors shy away, have been widely reported. The Times said memos revealed the “remarkable extent” to which “the campaign is relying upon the resources of his Super Pac, which raised $130m in the first half of the year.
“The outside group is paying for research on Mr DeSantis’s rivals, strategic insights and polling – all traditionally the work of campaigns themselves.”
Rick Wilson, a former Republican operative turned anti-Trump campaigner who also opposes DeSantis, told the Guardian: “I read the memos that were posted by the Times, and my initial reaction is that Jeff Roe is being vastly overpaid for advice that would be considered mediocre for a state house race.”
Seeking to resurrect his flagging US presidential campaign, Ron DeSantis suffered a major embarrassment when memos about his preparation for the first Republican debate were reported by the New York Times.
Related: Florida’s attacks on academic freedom just got even worse | Moira Donegan
Including advice not to attack the clear frontrunner, Donald Trump, the memos to the rightwing Florida governor ahead of the debate in Milwaukee next Wednesday were posted online by a consulting firm owned by Jeff Roe, chief strategist to Never Back Down, a Super Pac backing DeSantis.
Such documents are often published quietly, the Times said, to satisfy laws against such fundraising committees co-ordinating with candidates in private. In this case, someone tipped off the paper.
“There are four basic must-dos,” one memo advised:
- Attack Joe Biden and the media 3-5 times.
- State [DeSantis’s] positive vision 2-3 times.
- Hammer Vivek Ramaswamy in a response.
- Defend Donald Trump in absentia in response to a Chris Christie attack.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/new...ame-for-republicans/vi-AA1fmsRp?ocid=msedgdhp
In the DeSantis memos, the governor was advised to “defend Trump when Chris Christie attacks him”.
He was offered a way to do so: “Trump isn’t here, so let’s just leave him alone. He’s too weak to defend himself here. We’re all running against him. I don’t think we want to join forces with someone on this stage [Christie] who’s auditioning for a show on MSNBC” – a left-leaning TV network.
DeSantis has long held second place in polling but in recent months, even as Trump has been hit with four indictments containing 91 criminal charges, the governor has slipped further and further behind.
DeSantis’s hold on second place is now threatened by Vivek Ramaswamy, a biotech entrepreneur. Advice lines publicised by the Times included the suggestion DeSantis should attack Ramaswamy on his past stances on abortion, immigration and Covid.
“Take a sledgehammer to Vivek Ramaswamy,” the memo said, advising DeSantis to coin a Trump-style nickname: “‘Fake Vivek’ Or ‘Vivek the Fake.’”
Elsewhere, the governor’s struggles to appear natural on the campaign trail were the subject of a lengthy Washington Post report, “Awkward Americans see themselves in Ron DeSantis”. The debate memos advised DeSantis to “invoke a personal anecdote story about family, kids, [his wife] Casey, showing emotion”.
In more worrying signs for DeSantis, private polling in the memos showed a 39-point drop in favorability rating with Republicans between March and August and a 15-point drop with voters asked for their second-choice candidate, to a tie with Ramaswamy and Tim Scott, the South Carolina senator.
One key memo was removed from the website after Never Back Down was asked for comment, the Times said – while publishing the document in pdf form.
DeSantis’s financial problems, as donors shy away, have been widely reported. The Times said memos revealed the “remarkable extent” to which “the campaign is relying upon the resources of his Super Pac, which raised $130m in the first half of the year.
“The outside group is paying for research on Mr DeSantis’s rivals, strategic insights and polling – all traditionally the work of campaigns themselves.”
Rick Wilson, a former Republican operative turned anti-Trump campaigner who also opposes DeSantis, told the Guardian: “I read the memos that were posted by the Times, and my initial reaction is that Jeff Roe is being vastly overpaid for advice that would be considered mediocre for a state house race.”
You might be the only person in North America who actually still believes that.
Hurd knocks DeSantis ahead of first GOP debate: His campaign is ‘circling the drain’ (msn.com)
