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southpaw

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basketcase

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Yes I did. If Israel is a country reserved for a select group of people,...
As opposed to every other country that bases citizenship on ethnicity?

And in your intentional ignorance, you choose to avoid that anyone can apply to become an Israeli; Jews just have an easier path towards citizenship, same as people of German descent have an advantage when applying for German citizenship.

For a easy example, the Israeli kid in the NBA dad is a a Yugoslav Muslim who immigrated to Israel where he met and married his Jewish wife.
 

southpaw

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Not just a problem in the US.

 

Frankfooter

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Because Hamas rejected the UNSC ceasefire.

You and Hamas don't care the slightest about the lives of Palestinians, just supporting anything you think harms Israel and the jewish presence.
Wrong twice, impressive.
Israel has blocked all ceasefires and refused to honour the ones passed.
Arguing for a ceasefire, the end of violence, the end of the occupation and the application of international would only aid the Jewish presence. That would end zionists like yourself trying to argue that all Jews support the zionist genocide.

 

Frankfooter

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Dem leaders will never change, the Reps will never change, it's the U.S. and Israel joined at the hip in foreign policy.
Even if the Middle East is the deciding factor for elections moving forward, the two parties will take turns being voted in and out of power,
but foreign policy will not change and Israel is invaluable to the U.S. in reconstituting a new Middle Eastern political landscape.

The only way they stop is if they fail, not because of pressure to appease voters.
There is more open talk about AIPAC now.
That election made AIPAC as toxic as the NRA.

 

shack

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That you back a movement whose clear goal is wiping Palestine off the maps.
The definition of Zionism does not mention this "Palestine" you speak of. There has never been a sovereign nation by that name.
In fact, the definition does not mention any area in particular.

It just said that Zionism is the desire for a homeland.
 

basketcase

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You admit Israel isn't a democracy and doesn't represent Israeli Arabs?
You have already admitted you think Israel should be wiped out so your idiotic attempts to lie about what others say is just your pathetic psychological issues showing.


As the post proved, Arab members of Parliament and Arabs voters freely voting as they choose. Canada's system doesn't represent many minority or indigenous groups well. Does that mean you think we should be wiped out too?
 

basketcase

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Yes, the definition requires wiping Palestine off the maps.
As you stated.
The state of Palestine doesn't appear on maps because:
a) The Arab leadership rejected it when the UN created it,
b) Jordan annexed it in 1949 and,
c) The Palestinian leadership aren't ready to negotiate it's creation if it means Israel continues to exist.
 

shack

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Yes, the definition requires wiping Palestine off the maps.
As you stated.
According to whom? You? LOLOLOLOLOLOL Are you claiming to be a lexicographer now, And it's funny how try to put words into Oxford's mouth now, the same as you with every with whom you debate. Yet you object vociferously when you think someone is doing that to you.

Once again, your accusations are confessions.
 

shack

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Basketcase said Israel is a country based on ethnicity.
That means its not a democracy as its not a country for all citizens, including Christians and Israeli Arabs.
Nothing more than word salad and pretzel logic. You make no sense and you are flailing.
 

Frankfooter

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You have already admitted you think Israel should be wiped out so your idiotic attempts to lie about what others say is just your pathetic psychological issues showing.


As the post proved, Arab members of Parliament and Arabs voters freely voting as they choose. Canada's system doesn't represent many minority or indigenous groups well. Does that mean you think we should be wiped out too?
Total nonsense and gobbly gook.

 

Frankfooter

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The state of Palestine doesn't appear on maps because:
a) The Arab leadership rejected it when the UN created it,
b) Jordan annexed it in 1949 and,
c) The Palestinian leadership aren't ready to negotiate it's creation if it means Israel continues to exist.
Nope.

Israel is trying to wipe Palestine off the maps while the world says otherwise.
Israel is acting like a genocidal pariah state lead by a wanted war criminal.

 

Frankfooter

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According to whom? You? LOLOLOLOLOLOL Are you claiming to be a lexicographer now, And it's funny how try to put words into Oxford's mouth now, the same as you with every with whom you debate. Yet you object vociferously when you think someone is doing that to you.

Once again, your accusations are confessions.
The very definition of zionism you posted said it.
 

shack

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Israel is trying to wipe Palestine off the maps while the world says otherwise.
Israel is acting like a genocidal pariah state lead by a wanted war criminal.
Geno, they are doing whatever they want with impunity because nobody cares enough to even lift a finger. All the protests and all your rhetoric amount to a fart in a sandstorm.
 

basketcase

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Nope.

Israel is trying to wipe Palestine off the maps ...
You keep repeating that even though:
1) a Palestinian state never existed on a map
2) The PA and Hamas both routinely use maps that eliminate Israel and both have at times stated that as their explicit goal but you agree with them so you don't see an issue with it.
 
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