The Great Andrew Tate Interview #2

[Valcazar]

Not "people". Men. That was his point.

With respect to delayed marriage, there are financial and social concerns at play. "Men aren't avoiding marriage. They're avoiding divorce."

But it is "people", not just men.
It has gone up with women as well (not as dramatically, but again, the super dramatic version is from just one survey of this kind of thing).

But if you want to keep the focus just on men, it is still delaying marriage that seems to be the strongest link here.
Men are getting married later, and therefore having less sex.
It isn't really "involuntary celibacy" at all, but "voluntary celibacy" driving this.

Now mind you, this data is a bit old and I am sure the pandemic threw everything into chaos, so who knows what we will see in a few years time as a trend.

 

[Valcazar]

A second one that came out from Morgan Stanley a few months ago said that by 2030 45% of women between the ages of 18-40 will be single and remain that way.

Feel free to post opinions why.

Link to Morgan Stanley study about this?
Doesn't sound like a thing they would study.
It does sound like a thing they would take into account from a study by someone else, though, so there is probably some real report that number comes from and I'd like to know what it is.

 

[Butler1000]

Link to Morgan Stanley study about this?
Doesn't sound like a thing they would study.
It does sound like a thing they would take into account from a study by someone else, though, so there is probably some real report that number comes from and I'd like to know what it is.

Link to Morgan Stanley study about this?
Doesn't sound like a thing they would study.
It does sound like a thing they would take into account from a study by someone else, though, so there is probably some real report that number comes from and I'd like to know what it is.

So my error its 45% of 25-44 will be single and childless. And its on numerous platforms, coming from it appears the census analysis. Just google "Morgan Stanley 45% of women" and pick a link you prefer. Lots of legit ones available.

And I assume they study it because it will say a lot about buying habits and where to buy stock.

In this case wineries, pet food, and antidepressants are good bets!

 

[Butler1000]

But it is "people", not just men.
It has gone up with women as well (not as dramatically, but again, the super dramatic version is from just one survey of this kind of thing).

But if you want to keep the focus just on men, it is still delaying marriage that seems to be the strongest link here.
Men are getting married later, and therefore having less sex.
It isn't really "involuntary celibacy" at all, but "voluntary celibacy" driving this.

Now mind you, this data is a bit old and I am sure the pandemic threw everything into chaos, so who knows what we will see in a few years time as a trend.

Um, how many women ask men to marry them? That being said I think women are also delaying it because of hypergamy. And in the end losing out.

 

[Frankfooter]

Oh my!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1608592055777005568

 

[Valcazar]

So my error its 45% of 25-44 will be single and childless. And its on numerous platforms, coming from it appears the census analysis. Just google "Morgan Stanley 45% of women" and pick a link you prefer. Lots of legit ones available.

So it's just "something that's known on the internet so it must be true".
Gotcha.

Luckily, I have something roasting so can take a minute to actually look.

It comes from here: https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy

It is not "will be single and childless", just "single".
It is a projection made in 2019 (pre-pandemic) based on the trends in delayed marriage found in the census.
So that seems like it should be taken with a pretty solid grain of salt.

And I assume they study it because it will say a lot about buying habits and where to buy stock.

From their report it seems they were focused on it because spending per-person was higher in single households than in married ones.

 

[Valcazar]

Um, how many women ask men to marry them?

Not sure what your point is?
If men aren't asking women to marry them, that is men choosing not to marry.

 

[Butler1000]

So it's just "something that's known on the internet so it must be true".
Gotcha.

Luckily, I have something roasting so can take a minute to actually look.

It comes from here: https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy

It is not "will be single and childless", just "single".
It is a projection made in 2019 (pre-pandemic) based on the trends in delayed marriage found in the census.
So that seems like it should be taken with a pretty solid grain of salt.



From their report it seems they were focused on it because spending per-person was higher in single households than in married ones.

I think if Morgan Stanley is taking it seriously from census information then no salt is needed. That's what the census is for. And if its single with children thats not any better is it?

 

[Butler1000]

Not sure what your point is?
If men aren't asking women to marry them, that is men choosing not to marry.

The reasons why matter.

 

[Valcazar]

I think if Morgan Stanley is taking it seriously from census information then no salt is needed. That's what the census is for. And if its single with children thats not any better is it?

It means they think they can sell it or exploit it.

Look at their graph, it is a straight linear extrapolation of the trend.
That should be taken with a grain of salt.

It also represents the data in a really weird way to make it look more dramatic.
That should be taken with a grain of salt.

The reasons why matter.

Sure. But there is nothing to conclude about that from the census info they cite, which only lists the median age of the first marriage in the US.
Morgan Stanley only points out that more women are delaying marriage and may (it is unclear) be including divorced women in their numbers.

Why have men been delaying marriage since the 1960s (which average age was when it was lowest for men)?
Or, on the other side, why did it drop so low in 1960s when it was up closer to the numbers we see now in the past?

 

[poker]

Saw this a few days ago......Makes Piers look really bad at chess,lol..

So, you were cheering for the Human Trafficking piece of garbage?

 

[poker]

Tate likes to provoke,lol..........But if one was to watch the entirety of his videos it's hard to disagree with everything that he says. In his second appearance with Piers, I felt like Piers said he should have spoken out against the Taliban's treatment of women. He just defaults to it doesn't affect him therefore he has no opinion.

I always get a kick on here how members are quick to cancel someone out without actually listening to a full length podcast. They will however take verbatim someone else's words or opinion as gospel and adopt it as their own. Pure idealistic tribalism at it's finest.

The best podcaster out there right now is Lex Fridman in my opinion.

Ah… so you are with the human trafficker…. Got it.

Maybe next you could tell us Hitler did have some good ideas.

 

[Leimonis]

 

[poker]

This thread aged well….

 

[escortsxxx]

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[dirtyharry555]

This thread aged well….

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Penis shaming authored by a woman, and gleefully disseminated online by others. The woke take one step forward and two steps back.

 

[dirtyharry555]

Don't believe everything you see.

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[jalimon]

A second one that came out from Morgan Stanley a few months ago said that by 2030 45% of women between the ages of 18-40 will be single and remain that way.

Feel free to post opinions why.

Single or hook up with other women? It's crazy all around me all girl I know in the 20-35 year old range are mostly in a relation with another women.

I already say to my teenage kids that in a few years I will send them to mexico or south-america as the girl down there will like them

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Penis shaming authored by a woman, and gleefully disseminated online by other

Usually when Lib feminists write pieces like that I look up their picture to see what they look like.
They always come back as ugly and unfuckable.
So far I'm batting .1000

Clare Blackwood: http://www.clareblackwood.com/about

 

[krealtarron]

Usually when Lib feminists write pieces like that I look up their picture to see what they look like.
They always come back as ugly and unfuckable.
So far I'm batting .1000

Clare Blackwood: http://www.clareblackwood.com/about

Stop. If she was in lingerie and posting on Terb you will be booking her and paying her 400 an hour.