The Garbage Is Finally Being Taken Out

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This video seems like disinformation.
During Trump's presidency the mortality rate was indeed 3% or more.
Also the Beta variant was the most deadly and that was reported in July 2020.
All of this before the vaccine.
After the vaccine this dropped.
The subsequent variants were also much less deadly as well.
So the final statistic ended up being <1%.
 

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This video seems like disinformation.
During Trump's presidency the mortality rate was indeed 3% or more.
Also the Beta variant was the most deadly and that was reported in July 2020.
All of this before the vaccine.
After the vaccine this dropped.
The subsequent variants were also much less deadly as well.
So the final statistic ended up being <1%.

On a related note...
 

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Both numbers can be accurate, depending on when the data was reported. At the onset of the pandemic, there were reports of bodies being stored in refrigerated trucks behind hospitals. Nurses also came forward with claims that some hospitals were hastening patients' deaths. Early in the pandemic, there may have been a spike in fatalities due to the lack of effective treatments. Many patients were reportedly kept on ventilators for extended periods, which caused their airways to dry out and led to severe breathing difficulties.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Looked up which Dutch official said this and it turns out she is a member of the far right Freedom party led by Geert Wilders.
No wonder she was pushing this conspiracy theory.
Look at this from wikipedia:
In this same year she was also noted as being active on the neo-Nazi internet forum Stormfront which uses the slogan "White Pride World Wide."[3]
Why is it these types of things come from the same kind of people?
 

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Looked up which Dutch official said this and it turns out she is a member of the far right Freedom party led by Geert Wilders.
No wonder she was pushing this conspiracy theory.
And when you have two respected people like the ones I mentioned above, Jay Bhattacharya and Dr. Aseem Malhotra (oh shit, they're both Indian too, I should hate them right?) questioning the numbers, I'm not so sure it's a conspiracy theory when it comes to the vaccines and COVID.

 
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This video seems like disinformation.
During Trump's presidency the mortality rate was indeed 3% or more.
Also the Beta variant was the most deadly and that was reported in July 2020.
All of this before the vaccine.
After the vaccine this dropped.
The subsequent variants were also much less deadly as well.
So the final statistic ended up being <1%.

odd how flu deaths dropped like a rock (to perhaps historic lows) just around the same time as covid deaths peaked out

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odd how flu deaths dropped like a rock just around the same time as covid deaths peaked out

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If you assume the same number of Flu deaths as 2018, and assume they miscounted, even then it makes only a tiny difference.
The US had 1.2M Covid deaths.
Could also be explained by the measures taken for Covid reducing Flu incidences as well.
In conclusion, we found a marked decline in ILI in Singapore after the implementation of public health measures for COVID-19. Our findings suggest that such measures are effective in reducing spread of viral respiratory diseases and could mitigate the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Precautions taken to fight the COVID-19 pandemic, including wearing masks and distancing, are likely the major reason for a steep decline of flu cases in the U.S., according to experts.
 
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JohnLarue

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If you assume the same number of Flu deaths as 2018, and assume they miscounted, even then it makes only a tiny difference.
why would you assume to increase a published value by 451%
and then claim "it makes only a tiny difference"

2021-2022 sticks out as an outlier like an erection in a girls swimming race. something is different.

especially when that value questions your very precise conclusion of "less than 1%"
So the final statistic ended up being <1%.
yikes !
such unjustified confidence!

The US had 1.2M Covid deaths.
Could also be explained by the measures taken for Covid reducing Flu incidences as well.
the obvious conclusion is a huge number of flu deaths were reported as Covid deaths.

3 million per died in the in US in 2023
statistically three-fourths of all deaths in the US occur in people aged 65 and older: >>>>> old age

so what else were inaccurately reported as Covid deaths? "
We put Grandpa in the nursing home and he never came out again >>> it must have been covid"
you don't know
Covid became politicized , so does anyone really know?

the logic behind your statement
This video seems like disinformation.
did not hold up to scrutiny
 
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odd how flu deaths dropped like a rock (to perhaps historic lows) just around the same time as covid deaths peaked out
Yeah, it's almost like social distancing reduces the spread of respiratory disease especially ones with a lower transmission rate? Who would have thunk it.
 

NotADcotor

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Plenty of doctors will counter this guy's claims.
What do they know about the subject, they are only doctors, their sole purpose is keeping people alive. Must be biased.
Yes, seeing your patients die must emotionally distort their judgement.
It's really understandable but a great handicap to cool decision taking.


Because this soft R cites his sources.
 
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