The future of TERB.

[alexmst]

...when a SP pops into a thread with a comment or suggestion, one (and sometimes both) of two things happens. Either the guys here who hobby because they don't respect women because they a) been burned by women in the past or b) don't know how to relate to them as equals, jump in with variations of 'you make 250 dollars/hour to suck our dicks, you have an easy job, so shut the hell up' and 'because you have sex for a living, you're a whore, and you must put up with all my bullshit', or the complete opposite happens and men who think sucking up to the SPs on this board, will lead to the SPs respecting them and maybe giving them a free session, jump in with their white-knight syndrome, which leads to some negative, but not dramatically so, reviews being questioned and ultimately dismissed.

Yes, very good post.

 

[nolabel]

Actually I think this is a pretty interesting thread

And you should post more often, because your post was thoughtful and an interesting read.

but there was a lot of TOFTTing, and members seemed to be alot more supportive of their fellow hobbyists taking risks

The OP said this too. Can anyone clarify this, though? Do you mean the guys who post that they saw someone on CL, and get flamed when they say it was bad? I just read those comments as saying 'why go too risky when there is so much good info available on reputable agencies or Indy's?'. I don't see flaming just because of a TOFTT per se, but maybe I am missing something in the in/out call review section?

when a SP pops into a thread with a comment or suggestion, one (and sometimes both) of two things happens. Either . . . guys . . . who . . . don't respect women . . . jump in with 'you have sex for a living, you're a whore, and you must put up with all my bullshit'

And those guys deserve to get an earful for being a wanker.

or the complete opposite happens and men . . . jump in with their white-knight syndrome"

I'm not sure if I fall into that category or not. I'm an equal opportunity critic, so I'll call guys on saying stupid shit, but also SP's too (no need to name names). But is it a white knight syndrome to defend SP's from stupid, mysoginist, disrespectful remarks? If so, call me a white knight. But I don't have a problem with that, if that's what it means. Nor should any guy worth his salt.

 

[Nickelodeon]

I like where TERB is today. IMHO all forums are social boards with a specific focus, eg. sex, cars, sports. So I get what I need from the reviews, especially with a good use of the search button.

But the best thing about TERB is that it's fresh. Some boards get no postings for a day or maybe a half day depending on the subject.

On TERB there are always guys, or girls, coming on offering their opinions on everything. And frankly the problems that some of the postings reflect are genuinely interesting.....stuff that "there by the grace of God go I". And TERB members genuinely try to help even the dumbest fuckers.

So all in all, I like where it is.

 

[Cycleguy007]

No, there are no rules against it, however Lash is correct in noting the changes that have taken place over the years. It used to be less likely to find members who weren't also hobbyists involved with the board. That in itself is no big deal, just his observation that Terb began as a review board with a lounge for additional conversation not related to reviews, as it was cluttering up the review threads. Nowadays the lounge seems to be the main or only focus for some people. The funny thing is, there are some prolific posters who then get offended when someone mentions how much they are posting exclusively in the lounge.

True... I always thought that was ironic and/or a case of "the pot calling the kettle back". Kinda self defeating as well.

And then, of course there's the people whose only contribution to the board is either inane comments about how hot their SO is, or pointless 'silly' pics. Which is fine in the lounge. Every Internet message board has to have a dumping ground for pointless and entertaining topics, the only problem is when it spills over to the review section. There's no prohibition about non-hobbyists posting in the review section, nor should there be, but it does clutter up review threads with pseudo-witty banter and derails discussions.

(Excellent post BTW mur11!)

To add to my earlier post... I recognize that this part has been directed at me (and perhaps a few others), and I fully recognize the fact that I am a bit of an anomaly here, so this is precisely why I limit 99% of my banter to the lounge area. I rarely venture outside, except maybe for the occasional trip to the SC section or the K-W-C section.

Furthermore, I am not judgmental and am always respectful to the other members, unless someone is being a douche bag, in which case I will call him or her on it.

The minute Fred tells me he has a problem with me, is the day I log on for the last time. He is after all the owner.

 

[red]

some interesting points. my take is that the number of reviews seems to ebb and flow over time. the OP took a point in time (unless I am misinterpreting his comments) - a better analysis (if someone wanted to do it) would be comparing periods of time. though- its true that the more reviews the better the board.

 

[C Dick]

I believe there is a function where you can choose to ignore certain people if you so desire.

I find that it leaves holes that are even more annoying, because people respond and it becomes part of the thread. And he is in every thread, you pretty much have to accept it if you want to use the lounge.

 

[wet_suit_one]

Hmmm...

This is an interesting angle.

Never considered the economic angle. That does change the tenor of this thread doesn't it?

Is this a lousy marketing vehicle due to the social aspect? Good question...

Hmmm....

 

[Questor]

Reviews could be every bit as graphic as some of the reviews are now, and some of them were just plain disrespectful, but the majority of them seemed to be less boastful of the reviewer's sexual abilities...

...There was the public outing of several prominent reviewers that were taking discounted or free sessions in exchange for positive reviews, and while TERB dealt pretty harshly with those outed, I fear that practice is still alive and well today....

Which brings me to the final point. The shilling. There's no question that it is a bit out of control, and I think everyone who doesn't do it, knows what I'm talking about...I guess it's just the obvious glorification of the reviewer's abilities, and him either taking pride in how filithy the session was, or how transcendent and life-altering it was

In any case, I think that's the current state of TERB. As a previous poster in this thread mentioned, there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.

Good post and I agree with many of your points. Particularly the self glorification of some reviewers, the boastful reviewers. But let's face it, those posters are encouraged by very positive feedback from other posters who take the review at face value. Its a kind of hero worship, the reviewers with their idolizing and very gullible followers. These over-the-top reviews may indeed be receiving discounts and freebees from agencies, but I don't see anything more than wild speculation to back that up.

 

[marikiss]

I don't know the software od this but, what about resorting the different sections so they go.

Reviews
advertisers
general

would help people keep the main objective of the site in mind. Pushing the reviews to nearly the bottom seems a little assbackward, on a review board.

 

[nolabel]

Pushing the reviews to nearly the bottom seems a little assbackward, on a review board.

Totally agree. I mean, it's just so damn difficult to scroll down a page.

 

[blackrock13]

If we're going to talk about things one should not do, it is well known that one doesn't bring a PM into open forum.

...

It's been discussing briefly before, but your point about PM's is valid in a general sense. I have on occasion, as have others on this BB, brought certain PMs to light as a way of dealing with ignorant or annoying PMs that get sent intending to privately flame me/someone. I've clearly stated here in this forum and to the sender(s), as warning before doing so, that if you can't say it in public (this BB) then don't, because it shows a sense of cowardice or a lack of conviction in your stance/opinion or it's ability to stand up to criticism by other members.

Guess what? They stopped. I know there are clear guidelines for this and to Fred's and other mods credit, they have allowed the occasional transgression of these guidelines to deal with this.

 

[SecretRendezvous]

One thing not mentioned, veteran hobbyist refusing to review anymore.

I know many of our clients, and their TERB handles, and yet while they see our ladies, even the new ones, they just won't review anymore.

Reasons I have been told: They just can't be bothered to anymore as they are the only ones reviewing all the time.

 

[nolabel]

. . . . . . . . .

Most of what you said is unfit to quote. If you don't like Rollerboy, fine. But stop whining about it like a spoiled brat. It reflects very poorly on you, as a person, to voice such thoughts. Ick.

 

[fuji]

The white-knight syndrome is hilarious, it's one of the most entertaining things about terb. I have to wonder how desperate these guys are, do they really think the SP is going to fuck them for free if they come to her defense on a thread?

Absolutely hilarious.

On the other hand the guys with issues around women hating just piss me off.

 

[danmand]

The white-knight syndrome is hilarious, it's one of the most entertaining things about terb. I have to wonder how desperate these guys are, do they really think the SP is going to fuck them for free if they come to her defense on a thread?

Absolutely hilarious.

I don't think that is the motive of the white knights. My theory is that they
are so astonished and thankful, that a young, pretty gorgeous girl will treat
their sorry old asses to GFE service.

And maybe they should be.

 

[nolabel]

The white-knight syndrome is hilarious . . . do they really think the SP is going to fuck them for free if they come to her defense on a thread? . . . On the other hand the guys with issues around women hating just piss me off.

I'm still left in the dark about this white knight syndrome and, because it's nature is unclear to me, I'm led to the following . . .

If women haters piss you off, then doesn't that imply you would dispute their stupid crap, which would be an implicit defense of an SP if she is under attack. Or do you just talk the talk without walking the line?

 

[roblestone]

Maybe there are fewer reviews because the escort websites provide more information on what services are provided. Mileage was always the most important information I got from reviews. I don't post reviews because I don't go to Canada anymore. It used to be a real bargain with the strong dollar and the border was a breeze. Now customs is a nightmare coming and going.

The Lounge is very cool. That one thread "Things you always wanted to ask an SP but were afraid to" should be published...IMHO it would be a bestseller. Long live Terb!

 

[Cycleguy007]

The white-knight syndrome is hilarious, it's one of the most entertaining things about terb. I have to wonder how desperate these guys are, do they really think the SP is going to fuck them for free if they come to her defense on a thread?

Absolutely hilarious.

On the other hand the guys with issues around women hating just piss me off.

You are contradicting yourself Fuji, or perhaps (like nolable) I am not fully grasping the concept of "white kinght".

I have been accused of being a "white knight" on occasion, but I have been rather vocal about the fact that I don't employ the services of SP's.

If a guy is being a douche bag, I will tell him as much. What is wrong with that?

 

[The Fruity Hare]

I'm still left in the dark about this white knight syndrome and, because it's nature is unclear to me, I'm led to the following . . .

If women haters piss you off, then doesn't that imply you would dispute their stupid crap, which would be an implicit defense of an SP if she is under attack. Or do you just talk the talk without walking the line?

No name,

It is not only in response to women haters that the white knights step in to save their fair damsels. They also enter the fray when someone has disputed something as simple as her appearance, weight, etc. At which point it apears a reviewer is not allowed to be objective as the WK will rush to defend her, even though there may be some merit to the obsevation.

It also manifests itself in reviews, whereby some members are loathe to say anything that may be detrimental to the well being, psyche or pocket book of said SP. They will skirt around the unpleasant issues and talk up the others.

Some WK may not even realize they are doing this, as the SP has skillfully created the GFE fantasy which they guys desire and sometimes confuse with reality.

 

[The Fruity Hare]

You are contradicting yourself Fuji, or perhaps (like nolable) I am not fully grasping the concept of "white kinght".

I have been accused of being a "white knight" on occasion, but I have been rather vocal about the fact that I don't employ the services of SP's.

If a guy is being a douche bag, I will tell him as much. What is wrong with that?

Douche bags deserve to be told and possibly banned when they are abusive. However, as mentioned above, some guys fall over themselves to defend a girl even when an honest observation has been made in a non derogatory way.