The final garbage strike thread

Questor

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I have been silent on the strike until now. And I haven't bothered to read the many threads on the strike because I know its the same old anti Miller/ anti worker/ anti union/ screw the other guy because I've got mine bullshit.

So now it seems we can see the end of the strike. And now I have my own pet peeves. The situation seems to be evolving but right now, this is how it is looking:

1.) Service will be delayed at least one day because local 416 workers will not vote today. They have to man the picket lines while local 79 workers vote today. Then 416 workers will vote tomorrow while local 79 workers man the picket lines. For christ's sake, what do they think will happen if they all go and vote today? Someone is going to steal the garbage? If they have the vote and reject the tentative agreement, they can then go back to the pickets. But in all likelihood, since their own leadership has signed off on what they have negotiated, they are going to end the strike. So why on earth do they want to screw us for one more day while they man the picket lines? Assholes!

2.) It seems that city council will wait until after both unions vote and accept the agreement. Then they will call an emergency meeting. This requires 24 hours notice. In all likelihood, the unions will vote yes, so why don't they just call the meeting now and start the 24 hour period. If the union votes no, then they can cancel the meeting. Assholes!

3.) The non-union managers earlier agreed to a 0% raise contract. Now they see the union workers got a raise. So they are pissed off and are considering what they should do about it. The city has been held ransom for over a month by the strike. We were all between a rock and a hard place. So the union made concessions, and the city made concessions. And at least the strike is over. But the managers see the workers got something they didn't, so they want it too. Assholes!

What a fucked up city.
 
I have to agree with you here Questor. It is all politicing, grandstanding, and pure BS. I have been lucky through all this: if I had to encounter these unionassholes trying to delay me I would be in jail because I wouldn't put up with it......

You're right, this is a fucked up city. Miller had the people backing him to break the union's back and he let oppurtunity slip through his fingers.
 
tboy said:
I have to agree with you here Questor. It is all politicing, grandstanding, and pure BS. I have been lucky through all this: if I had to encounter these unionassholes trying to delay me I would be in jail because I wouldn't put up with it......

You're right, this is a fucked up city. Miller had the people backing him to break the union's back and he let oppurtunity slip through his fingers.

Its not over yet , then union is balking at the ratification vote over the implimentation rules, ie., they don't want private companies taking away all that overtime to clean up the messes.

There is also a rumour that the city wants to fire some union members for piquet line violations
 
Miller has caved on everything else; so, why not the OT. It stinks and us TO tax payors are broke !!!
 
landscaper said:
Its not over yet , then union is balking at the ratification vote over the implimentation rules, ie., they don't want private companies taking away all that overtime to clean up the messes.

There is also a rumour that the city wants to fire some union members for piquet line violations

HaHaHa!!!

These guys are so stupid. To be honest, I don't know who the union is mad at. the city or their own reps.

I told you they wanted the holiday pay/work. Let me see if they work the holiday picking up the piles of garbage they caused, don't they get 2.5x. Works for me.
 
Frankly, I'll scream blue murder if the unionistas get 2.5x pay for cleaning up the mess they created. WTF? seriously, by paying them 2.5x they will make up any money they lost by not working during the strike so where is the downside?
 
Union Won

They got the 18 days SICK TIME....

now are complaining about when they can go back to work!!

FUCKING UNIONS!!!
 
If the Deal doesn't go through....Miller should have a backup plan. That is, buy lotto 6/49 before 9PM. Win it. Then quit.
 
Questor said:
1.) Service will be delayed at least one day because local 416 workers will not vote today. They have to man the picket lines while local 79 workers vote today. Then 416 workers will vote tomorrow while local 79 workers man the picket lines. For christ's sake, what do they think will happen if they all go and vote today? Someone is going to steal the garbage? If they have the vote and reject the tentative agreement, they can then go back to the pickets. But in all likelihood, since their own leadership has signed off on what they have negotiated, they are going to end the strike. So why on earth do they want to screw us for one more day while they man the picket lines? Assholes!

2.) It seems that city council will wait until after both unions vote and accept the agreement. Then they will call an emergency meeting. This requires 24 hours notice. In all likelihood, the unions will vote yes, so why don't they just call the meeting now and start the 24 hour period. If the union votes no, then they can cancel the meeting. Assholes!

3.) The non-union managers earlier agreed to a 0% raise contract. Now they see the union workers got a raise. So they are pissed off and are considering what they should do about it. The city has been held ransom for over a month by the strike. We were all between a rock and a hard place. So the union made concessions, and the city made concessions. And at least the strike is over. But the managers see the workers got something they didn't, so they want it too. Assholes!

What a fucked up city.


Your rant reminds me of the TTC strike

Why did they walk off when they knew they would be forced back within two days then go arbitrator?

They would go arbitrator whether they walked or not so why walk?

What did they gain? They lost two days work and public respect

I know this is a old topic but I am still curious

Does anyone comprehend what went down

It never heard an explanation by the media, Miller or the union
 
GO LEAFS GO!!!! great name but your whole team is unionized and had a strike as well a few years ago!!! They make millions
 
Questor said:
But the managers see the workers got something they didn't, so they want it too. Assholes!

What a fucked up city.

You think the non-unionized workers are assholes because the "unionized council" voted themselves a raise and then turn around and give the workers for the same union that contributed heavily to their election campaigns raises but decided not to give the non-unionized workers raises.

The logic there is tough to follow.

The City has been run by the unions for years so if you want to call anyone an asshole.......
 
The star is reporting that banked sick days ARE in the offer. If that is the case Miller is finished. I think Osama Bin Laden could run against him and win
 
did you really think they would disappear, teh union would of waited longer until ordered back to work
 
The unions (the good people) won...

GOLEAFSGO67 said:
They got the 18 days SICK TIME....

now are complaining about when they can go back to work!!

FUCKING UNIONS!!!

The bad people (management) lost. Truth and justice won out.
 
Mrbig1949 said:
The bad people (management) lost. Truth and justice won out.

Let me see, how close is 3%+ status quo to 1.5%+ phased out sick days? Not close at all, so I don't see your rave holding much value.
 
buckwheat1 said:
did you really think they would disappear, teh union would of waited longer until ordered back to work


Miller lacks balls. He should have said final offer, we start hiring replacement workers in 1 week.
 
Mrbig1949 said:
The bad people (management) lost. Truth and justice won out.
Really? Let's see now, assuming the average striker is earning $40,000 per year. Over 3 years the 6% increase amounts to about $2,400. They didn't get paid for just over 5 weeks which which is roughly 10% or $4,000 in lost wages. So they have a net loss of $1,600, yep they won alright.:rolleyes:

This was a dumb strike from a financial point of view, period.