The Fate of Sarah Palin

[The Crunge]

The Vice President presides over the Senate, which basically means they show up when it looks like they might have to cast a deciding vote in a 50-50 tie vote among Senators. By no means is the VP in charge of the Senate and has no real authority in how the Senate conducts it's business. Sarah got it wrong.

So I guess she need to cross off her list a professorship at Harvard's JFK School of Government.

She does not cease to amaze.

BTW, my bet is still on her taking a run at the US senate at the next available opportunity, and she will win.

 

[WoodPeckr]

She does not cease to amaze.

Ditzy Sarah is the gift that keeps giving!....

 

[Aardvark154]

The Vice President presides over the Senate, which basically means they show up when it looks like they might have to cast a deciding vote in a 50-50 tie vote among Senators. By no means is the VP in charge of the Senate and has no real authority in how the Senate conducts it's business. Sarah got it wrong.

No, you are incorrect! Please re-read the U.S. Constitution. The Vice-President of the U.S. is the President (chief presiding officer) of the U.S. Senate.

Indeed Thomas Jefferson while Vice-President occupied his "down time" in writing the rules of procedure for the U.S. Senate.

Merely because of late, Vice-Presidents have decided that they had better uses of their time than to preside over the Senate doesn’t mean that the Constitution doesn’t give them that office and authority.

 

[Aardvark154]

Sorry Crunge, you and Asterix, are just plain incorrect.

In this case "ditzy Sarah" is correct.

 

[Asterix]

No, you are incorrect! Please re-read the U.S. Constitution. The Vice-President of the U.S. is the President (chief presiding officer) of the U.S. Senate.

Indeed Thomas Jefferson while Vice-President occupied his "down time" in writing the rules of procedure for the U.S. Senate.

Merely because of late, Vice-Presidents have decided that they had better uses of their time than to preside over the Senate doesn’t mean that the Constitution doesn’t give them that office and authority.

Of late? You mean like the last 100 years? Give me any example going back even that far back of when the Vice President lorded over the Senate. Try to include a brief description of why you would also think this is a good idea.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Sorry Crunge, you and Asterix, are just plain incorrect.

In this case "ditzy Sarah" is correct.

Your dead wrong Aardi but it's a novel interpretation of US history.
You tutoring Ditzy Sarah now?....

 

[The Crunge]

In a CNN interview, when questioned about referring to Obama as a socialist, her first response is to quote Joe the Plumber. And you somehow find a way to support her Aardvark? Have you no pride?

 

[Aardvark154]

Of late? You mean like the last 100 years? Give me any example going back even that far back of when the Vice President lorded over the Senate. Try to include a brief description of why you would also think this is a good idea.

Yes of late the 20th century. Adams and Jefferson both routinely presided over the Senate.

Under your theory since the practice of Presidents delivering the State of the Union in person died out during the Nineteenth and early Twentieth centuries (a manuscript being sent to Congress) - not to be revived until FDR. He then shouldn't have delivered the speech in person since it hadn't been done that way in over a century.

Further, please tell me why when a Constitutional Officer is given duties by the Constitution. You feel it is inappropriate for them to exercise them?

 

[Asterix]

Yes of late the 20th century. Adams and Jefferson both routinely presided over the Senate.

Under your theory since the practice of Presidents delivering the State of the Union in person died out during the Nineteenth and early Twentieth centuries (a manuscript being sent to Congress) - not to be revived until FDR. He then shouldn't have delivered the speech in person since it hadn't been done that way in over a century.

What? How in the hell does that have anything to do with the Vice President being "in charge" of the Senate? The VP isn't, at best they are a final arbitrator. You completely dodged my question.

 

[Aardvark154]

What? How in the hell does that have anything to do with the Vice President being "in charge" of the Senate? The VP isn't, at best they are a final arbitrator. You completely dodged my question.

Let me try once more.

1) The Vice-President of the U.S. is the President (presiding officer) of the U.S. Senate.

2) The Office is principally defined in Article I - the Legislative Article
although it is referred to in other places such as the XII Amendment, the XX Amendment and the XXV Amendment.

3) The sole provisions relating to the Vice-President in Article II were repealed by the XII Amendment.

4) Presiding officer does not mean dictator, but the presiding officer does enforce the rules of procedure.

5) If the Vice-President so chooses they can preside over the Senate at any time it is in session.

If you choose to see the above as not being "in charge" of the Senate, sobeit. I don't believe that "in charge" means lording it over, nor do I believe that Governor Palin meant it that way. This hatred of the woman really has reached the point of utter ridiculousness.

I note that there wasn't a long thread on TERB when Senator Biden didn't even give the proper article of the U.S. Constitution during the vice-presidential debate. Of course if that had been Governor Palin, yet more evidence of how utterly unfit for office. . . to put it mildly there seems a double standard.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Let me try once more.

1) The Vice-President of the U.S. is the President (presiding officer) of the U.S. Senate.

2) The Office is principally defined in Article I - the Legislative Article
although it is referred to in other places such as the XII Amendment, the XX Amendment and the XXV Amendment.

3) The sole provisions relating to the Vice-President in Article II were repealed by the XII Amendment.

4) Presiding officer does not mean dictator, but the presiding officer does enforce the rules of procedure.

5) If the Vice-President so chooses they can preside over the Senate at any time it is in session.

LOL!!!
Come on now Aardi, level with us......did DICK tell you that?....