The election litigation thread

toguy5252

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You are correct. The legal system certainly has its failings, as any system dependent on human judgment will have. However, it's one thing to say that the system doesn't always work as it should, and quite another to hold up a flaw as an essential element of the system.
Quite right.
 

toguy5252

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Dominion CEO testified today before Michigan Senate committee:


He acknowledged that their systems could be hacked, but denied knowledge of any evidence of hacking. He blamed the failed audit of the Antrim Co. machine on a missing software update, but couldn't explain how this software update was missed on only this one machine. He denied that the machines were connected to the internet, but acknowledged that they have ethernet ports that would allow them to be connected. Strangely, he advanced the argument that Dominion must not be the problem because Trump got more votes than Biden in many counties where Dominion machines were used (as if that proves anything).

Some other interesting aspects of his testimony:

1. The only Michigan County that had onsite IT support from Dominion was Wayne county.
2. The CEO didn't know what training had been given to tabulator/software operators in Michigan, or who gave it.
3. No one from Dominion who was at the TCF centre provided any report to Dominion management. Dominion does not have first hand evidence that relates to any of the allegations made by affiants about the actions of Dominion staff or the operations of the equipment or systems at that site.
Interesting perhaps but evidence sufficient to discharge the onus upon a plaintiff? Not even close. Listing all kinds of interesting tidbits does not amount to proof af anything at all.
 

toguy5252

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No, you don't see the connection.

The connection is that Miller is claiming the legal system isn't working because judges are too concerned about coverage from the media, while the poster was making the argument that Miller should be worried about his public reputation, essentially warning him that the media will be sure to destroy it. In essence, the poster is suggesting that public figures, whether judges or politicians, should fear the media. If the poster is right, then it would appear that Miller may be right as well.
You are drawing a false equivalency between concern a judge, some with lifetime tenure, might feel and concern that a person whose entire career depends on pleasing his boss.
 

Dutch Oven

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Michigan joint sub-committee issues subpoenas to Detroit and Livonia County to preserve and produce election equipment, electronic storage and other election materials to be examined by the committee, in contrast to usual policy of deletion of storage and destruction of materials when there is no recount or audit:

 

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Michigan joint sub-committee issues subpoenas to Detroit and Livonia County to preserve and produce election equipment, electronic storage and other election materials to be examined by the committee, in contrast to usual policy of deletion of storage and destruction of materials when there is no recount or audit:

ooooooh, oh no.....should Biden be worried. LMAO

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Video taken by Georgia Fulton County poll worker shows chain of custody procedures not followed and unsigned absentee ballots processed:

Finally, you found the evidence that will overturn the election!
Congrats, you must be feeling very relieved.

Oh wait, Michigan does have another suit going on.
 

Dutch Oven

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Finally, you found the evidence that will overturn the election!
Congrats, you must be feeling very relieved.

Oh wait, Michigan does have another suit going on.
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Dutch Oven

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You are drawing a false equivalency between concern a judge, some with lifetime tenure, might feel and concern that a person whose entire career depends on pleasing his boss.
Miller is not going to be working for Trump for much longer if the election results are undisturbed.

If you are personally acquainted with people who are judges here in Canada (where they all are secure from removal) you'll know that they are, nevertheless, sensitive about public criticism, particularly from the cocktail society they circulate within (who include the press and/or others who lap up their offerings). There aren't many Judges who want to show up at the next celebrity fundraiser and have to brave the whisperings of "he's the one who thought Trump was right!"
 
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Frankfooter

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Miller is not going to be working for Trump for much longer if the election results are undisturbed.

If you are personally acquainted with people who are judges here in Canada (where they all are secure from removal) you'll know that they are, nevertheless, sensitive about public criticism, particularly from within the cocktail society they circulate within (who include the press and/or others who lap up their offerings). There aren't many Judges who want to show up at the next celebrity fundraiser and have to brave the whisperings of "he's the one who thought Trump was right!"
Where does a nazi find work after Trump is gone?

Sure judges are sensitive about press, like anyone else. You don't want to be on the front page for doing something stupid, like having goo leak down your head, get caught trying to have sex with someone you believed to be a minor or even have nude photos become public.

But that only serves to keep judges from being controversial and trying to put their views of the law into the court.

Trump's lawyers are all total disasters, just like his attempts to turn over the election and just like your continual belief that they will succeed.
 

Dutch Oven

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Where does a nazi find work after Trump is gone?

Sure judges are sensitive about press, like anyone else. You don't want to be on the front page for doing something stupid, like having goo leak down your head, get caught trying to have sex with someone you believed to be a minor or even have nude photos become public.

But that only serves to keep judges from being controversial and trying to put their views of the law into the court.

Trump's lawyers are all total disasters, just like his attempts to turn over the election and just like your continual belief that they will succeed.
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Miller is not going to be working for Trump for much longer if the election results are undisturbed.

If you are personally acquainted with people who are judges here in Canada (where they all are secure from removal) you'll know that they are, nevertheless, sensitive about public criticism, particularly from within the cocktail society they circulate within (who include the press and/or others who lap up their offerings). There aren't many Judges who want to show up at the next celebrity fundraiser and have to brave the whisperings of "he's the one who thought Trump was right!"
Dutch, where do you GET your ideas from?!
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Dutch Oven

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US Senate hearing on election irregularities:

 

Dutch Oven

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Wow, did you send that straight to Rudy?
How about Biden?
I'm sure he'll admit the election wasn't legit and resign as soon as he sees it.

Keep up the good work, you're almost there.
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