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The Discussion That Anti-Zionism is Not Anti-Semitism

shack

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You are completely in the dark about this issue. All these Drs declared they are Zionist.
Total BS. Give us those names and the names of the doctors who have already been targeted

“Today, 555 Jewish physician faculty issued a public statement declaring their
right to work openly as Zionists free of censure. They define for themselves
what is antisemitic and will not let antizionists define it for them.”
They are not the same doctors who have been attacked.
 

Kautilya

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Many things are addressed but nothing specifically to do with this campaign that going on how that DiManno wrote about. Why don't you talk about that first?

I talk about UNGA resolutions or lack thereof. You talk about ICJ or anything else under the sun other than what the UNGA or UNSC has not accused Israel of.
I present an article about an ongoing practice that discriminates against Jewish doctors and you talk history.

Stop changing topics. Address what's written in this article.
I cannot read the article as it is paywalled. But from the blurb you posted it seems Jewish physicians are doxxed? Doxxed regarding what?

In any case why is this more offensive than Muslims and POCs who have and continue to suffer discrimination and violence? Why would you treat a JEWISH person purportedly suffering racism, as something of an extraordinary event, while brushing off persistent racism and violence towards Muslims and POCs, which are objectively BIGGER issues?
You are completely in the dark about this issue. All these Drs declared they are Zionist.

OVER 550 JEWISH PHYSICIANS IN THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO’S TEMERTY
FACULTY OF MEDICINE PROCLAIM THEIR ZIONISM

“Today, 555 Jewish physician faculty issued a public statement declaring their
right to work openly as Zionists free of censure. They define for themselves
what is antisemitic and will not let antizionists define it for them.”

Ah! So they support genocide. No wonder. I have no regard for anyone - Jews or non-Jews, Zionists or non-Zionists who support genocide of the Palestinians. They are all dirtbags and can go cry in a corner.
Total BS. Give us those names and the names of the doctors who have already been targeted
Wait your blurb seems to indicate they were doxxed. But we dont even know who they are?
 

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Yeah he has been unhinged on these Israel threads. Has easily made atleast 20,000 posts in the last 6 months just on these Israel threads lol. And here we go another Israel thread. lol.
Thanks for admitting that you cannot refute a word of what Dimanno wrote and that you support this campaign because it exposes you as being disingenuous when you say that you don't hate Jews only Zionists. Until you address the points she made in this article then there is no need to do anything other than refer you back to the article. You are making my case for me.

All you can do is spew ad hominems instead. I am not surprised.
 

shack

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Irony is that you accuse me of doing this, in a thread that is accusing people of racism for their criticism of Israel.
And you have not made a single point to the contrary of what DiManno wrote.
 

shack

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Pencil Sharpener: Where you take pencils that are not too sharp.
You did not attempt to refute NAD's examples. Just another ad hominem response istead. 12 posts in and not a single rebuttal to Dimanno's article.
 

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I cannot read the article as it is paywalled. But from the blurb you posted it seems Jewish physicians are doxxed? Doxxed regarding what?

In any case why is this more offensive than Muslims and POCs who have and continue to suffer discrimination and violence? Why would you treat a JEWISH person purportedly suffering racism, as something of an extraordinary event, while brushing off persistent racism and violence towards Muslims and POCs, which are objectively BIGGER issues?

Ah! So they support genocide. No wonder. I have no regard for anyone - Jews or non-Jews, Zionists or non-Zionists who support genocide of the Palestinians. They are all dirtbags and can go cry in a corner.

Wait your blurb seems to indicate they were doxxed. But we dont even know who they are?

Here is where this group declare they are Zionists again. Read it. They are unrepentant self absorbed racists.

 
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Zionist is code word for Jew. Hatred of Jews is rampant especially in Terb.
It's a well-know anti-Semitic trope. The number of people protesting around that false-flag of Zionism really shows that nothing has actually changed since WWII.
People hated Jews for being Jews and they still do, exactly the same as the Nazis. I hear that there's been a recent surge of sales of brown shirts. It's all the rage.
 

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All zionists are also supremacists, aren't they?
So the only racism that counts as racism is antisemitism, since no other race are humans.
We've heard all of your rhetoric Geno. We haven't heard any comments on what DiManno wrote.
 

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You care about those other topics? Great. Create a thread. This one is about Israel and therefore we stay on topic talk about Israel, Zionism and anti-Zionism.
So you admit not caring about these other issues.

You now admit that it is a truism when people say, "No Jews, no news." That is exactly what you just said.

All you care about is demonizing Israel while you pretend to be worried about the humanitarian crisis. You've just proved that you've been lying. You don't care about any other humanitarian crises.
 
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Kautilya

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So you admit not caring about these other issues.

You now admit that it is a truism when people say, "No Jews, no news." That is exactly what you just said.

All you care about is demonizing Israel while you pretend to be worried about the humanitarian crisis. You've just proved that you've been lying. You don't care about any other humanitarian crises.
It is irrelevant whether or not I care about those other issues, for the purposes of this thread. I did not say one way or another anyway. This thread is about Zionism and anti-Zionism which are related to Israel, so we will stay on topic on that subject.

Also you say "No Jews, no news". I however see that as projection. Because if it isn't Jews or Israel or Zionism, I dont see you starting any other thread on any other topic or responding to any other thread on any other political topic. Infact even in non political threads you manage to insert Israel. So may be you need to introspect.
 
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All this we don't hate Jews we are just Anti Zionism reminds me of back in the day when white supremacists absolutely insisted [or some of them did] that they didn't hate blacks, they just wanted a separate homeland. Nobody believed them, hell I am pretty sure they didn't believe it either. Sadly in this case I don't think the usual suspects have the self awareness to see their own hatred.
 
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Sadly in this case I don't think the usual suspects have the self awareness to see their own hatred.
they are beaming virtue signals out of their ass and are convinced that they are the greatest humanitarians ever
 

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I'm against moronic posts/questions like this. Did I write that article, Geno? Did I voice an opinion on this practice?

The article is about how, based on this campaign, it shows that a Jew doesn't have to be a Zionist to be attacked by the people spreading hate. It debunks your claim

Tell us your opinion on these doctors being systematically intimidated and harassed within their profession by people who don't care if he's Zionist or not. How do you defend the actions of these Jew hating racists? You say you only hate Jews who are Zionists. If this is as you claim , condemn this anti-Semitic campaign.
The very first line under the headline of your article:

Dr. Philip Berger last week penned a letter in which 555 Jewish U of T physician faculty members declared their Zionism and their right to work openly as Zionists.

Your article says they were hated for being zionists, not for being Jewish.
As they should be.
Zionism is racism and now zionism = genocide.

 
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All this we don't hate Jews we are just Anti Zionism reminds me of back in the day when white supremacists absolutely insisted [or some of them did] that they didn't hate blacks, they just wanted a separate homeland. Nobody believed them, hell I am pretty sure they didn't believe it either. Sadly in this case I don't think the usual suspects have the self awareness to see their own hatred.
During Vietnam protesters were called commies and commie lovers.
 

shack

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It is irrelevant whether or not I care about those other issues,
It is the core point in proving your hypocrisy when you make a false claim to care about Palestinian humanitarian crisis.

The fact that you don't care about any of those other humanitarian crises, means that humanitarianism is never on your radar. "No Jew, no news" is your credo. You've now verified this several times in this thread.
 

shack

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The very first line under the headline of your article:

Dr. Philip Berger last week penned a letter in which 555 Jewish U of T physician faculty members declared their Zionism and their right to work openly as Zionists.

Your article says they were hated for being zionists, not for being Jewish.
Here's my article. None of what you say is in there. It, in fact, says the exact opposite of what you are saying. It's unbelievable what you think that you can get away with.
How a malevolent online campaign targets Jewish doctors (thestar.com)
 

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Here's my article. None of what you say is in there. It, in fact, says the exact opposite of what you are saying. It's unbelievable what you think that you can get away with.
How a malevolent online campaign targets Jewish doctors (thestar.com)
You are completely in the dark about this issue. All these Drs declared they are Zionist.

OVER 550 JEWISH PHYSICIANS IN THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO’S TEMERTY
FACULTY OF MEDICINE PROCLAIM THEIR ZIONISM

“Today, 555 Jewish physician faculty issued a public statement declaring their
right to work openly as Zionists free of censure. They define for themselves
what is antisemitic and will not let antizionists define it for them.”

http://daradocs.org/wp-content/uploads/Press-Release-website-version.pdf

I used to like Phil Berger but he is just an old entitled bigot now. He seems to think because he helped out on other good causes that he should get a pass for supporting Israeli genocide now. Not going to happen Phil. Use your head.

There’s no evidence of antisemitism in this article. And there was no doxing of the Drs who signed this letter…..they all published their names along with their views. Supporting the genocide of Palestinians seems to be in direct contradiction of their mission as healers while on the public payroll.
 
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