The Code

As I said, for single guys there are no rules, only simple common sense.

I agree with TP. If I was single I would seriously consider dating some of them and having a real relationship. Knowing that they see so many men I would need a good protection mechanism to allow to develop the relationship. Knowing what I know now, I find these girls a lot more interesting then non industry girls so I would definitely chase after them.
 
This bad date list is very interesting to me. Just curios how do you prevent malice or misuse, and what happens if somebodies name is put there for the wrong reasons. Is it on there forever, or do you update this thing periodically. Do you report on every client outing. Since there is a bad list floating around, do you girls keep the preferred client list, and reward the clients who go above and beyond what is expected from a typical client. Also, do MPAs use a similar approach. Don't get me wrong, I am all for this type of thing as you need some sort of protection mechanism, just curious how it is managed.

pablice,

Some, but not all boards, have a private section for us to report any bad experiences we've had with clients, bearing in mind that a guy could have cancelled many times with one lady and successfully seen another several times, making him a time waster to the first, but not the second.

It usually works much the same way as the review section of any board does. There are moderators who govern it and if anyone disputes a claim, although I've personally never seen this happen, I'm certain that it would be investigated and removed if need be or modified to include any additional information. How do you determine if a review is legitimate or not?

The Erotic Review (TER) has what is called a "white list", which is a lady's way of informing other ladies that the particular board member is a good guy (i.e. shows up on time, is cleanly, respectful, doesn't short change us, etc.). This was most likely put into effect due to LE in the US as a way of screening clients without necessarily having to request references, as it is a built in reference.

Another newer board has both a Good Client List (GCL) and a Bad Client List (BCL). Not surprisingly, the GCL isn't as full as the other, and not because guys are inherently bad, but because it's human nature to complain more than to praise, with SPs being no different.

I hope this answers your questions and alleviates any concern you may have regarding the matter!

Sincerely,
Miss Sinful Sophia (SS)
 
Thanks Sophia. This is very insightful and interesting information. It is interesting how we gather intel on the girls and we think sometimes that we know everything there is...but we are also being watched. I normally stick to MPAs and get off when I see that they also had a good time, and can see in their face and the expression of satisfaction. Sometimes I like getting SP services from them and know that they talk to other girls an can recognize clients. It's nice to be rewarded and recognized + build a reputation from both ends.

pablice, Some, but not all boards, have a private section for us to report any bad experiences we've had with clients, bearing in mind that a guy could have cancelled many times with one lady and successfully seen another several times, making him a time waster to the first, but not the second. It usually works much the same way as the review section of any board does. There are moderators who govern it and if anyone disputes a claim, although I've personally never seen this happen, I'm certain that it would be investigated and removed if need be or modified to include any additional information. How do you determine if a review is legitimate or not? The Erotic Review (TER) has what is called a "white list", which is a lady's way of informing other ladies that the particular board member is a good guy (i.e. shows up on time, is cleanly, respectful, doesn't short change us, etc.). This was most likely put into effect due to LE in the US as a way of screening clients without necessarily having to request references, as it is a built in reference. Another newer board has both a Good Client List (GCL) and a Bad Client List (BCL). Not surprisingly, the GCL isn't as full as the other, and not because guys are inherently bad, but because it's human nature to complain more than to praise, with SPs being no different. I hope this answers your questions and alleviates any concern you may have regarding the matter! Sincerely, Miss Sinful Sophia (SS)
 
So it's been some time, I think I got it down now...I hope. Here is my the cleaned up version...gotta check it and refine from time to time...

1. Don't get caught
2. Always pay
3. Keep moving forward
4. Always respect the girls and industry
5. Maintain the 3 pillars - Keep your hobby life separate from your friends and family and keep business separate from the other 2
6. Never drop your guard
7. Hobby responsibly
8. Stop once you can't follow your code
9. Most important know when to DISAPPEAR

PEACE!

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So it's been some time, I think I got it down now...I hope. Here is my the cleaned up version...gotta check it and refine from time to time...

1. Don't get caught
2. Always pay
3. Keep moving forward
4. Always respect the girls and industry
5. Maintain the 3 pillars - Keep your hobby life separate from your friends and family and keep business separate from the other 2
6. Never drop your guard
7. Hobby responsibly
8. Stop once you can't follow your code
9. Most important know when to DISAPPEAR

PEACE!

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Pablice you are hilarious......

My friend if there is a mathematical chance of an event taking place, tht event will happen.

Everything in this world is always in a constant state of change. The more you try to maintain things from changing the more chaos you will find.

I say just let go and fuck the rules, I assure the ride will be wild, but fuck if you wont love it hen you look back.

"Look at me it wasn't easy, but I am absolutely free to do as I please"
 
You know, the common pattern amongst some hobbyists I observe is that we have serious "issues" compared to your average schmucks. This "quality" gives us many advantages by making us unique and gives us the ability to think outside the box,is a strong driving force used to motivate and inspire but can also be very destructive to us and the loved ones around us if not properly controlled.

I need inspiration through fire, burn, and depth to function properly. I ask myself many times why is it that such a perfect marriage can also be so imperfect. Why do I seem so happy at home but yet get so lonely at nights, and spend my free time browsing adult forums all the time. Why is it that my time has stopped to exist and I can remember every little moment I shared with some industry girls to the finest of details, the ones who inspire me the most and give the least shit about me? Why is it the ones I think about all the time and miss the most can barely remember my name. Why is it that I loose interest for the ones that give me everything, and hold me to their high regards.

I have seen guys loose them self through this powerful driving force. I don't really know what it is, but there are clear patterns amongst some of us you observe if you pay attention. I do not want become one of the guys who get taken over by these emotions and forget what they are. It's crazy that some and are ready to leave their wife and kids because of some industry girl the have fallen for if given the chance. I do not want the feelings of lust, love, loneliness, compulsive impulsive behaviour take over, change my core self and define who I am. I see these driving forces like the ignition to my mind body and spirit that I need to function. So without a mechanism to control the fire burn and depth, the chances of you loosing yourself significantly increase.

Your situation is nice , especially the freedom to explore and experience. Unfortunately, I can't see a happy ending here. The chances of finding the one that really works with you are very slim, and naturally over time you drift apart until you stabilize. Eventually the loneliness kicks in either if you are single or not, if you are free or caged, loneliness is a bitch in disguise. The hard part is to find contention in the life you have rather then constantly searching for the one you don't have...ohhh fuck this, I think we are all fucked...my friend, I need a drink :D


Pablice you are hilarious......

My friend if there is a mathematical chance of an event taking place, tht event will happen.

Everything in this world is always in a constant state of change. The more you try to maintain things from changing the more chaos you will find.

I say just let go and fuck the rules, I assure the ride will be wild, but fuck if you wont love it hen you look back.

"Look at me it wasn't easy, but I am absolutely free to do as I please"
 
I have tried...it is just too hard especially because of guys like you, icespot and tp to name a few. You guys make this hobby thing so bloody intetesting, especially with all of our unique experiences we share. Very unique but very similar. I say lets have a drink for the wounderful ladies in "red" who dance with us, inspire us to soar past any imaginable limit.


[E=Voidphase;5063980]I hope this doesn't mean he's gone.

I figured out last year that the vast majority of escorts are not in this to ruin my life. I'm still careful of what I share and with whom but there are three ladies I'm fairly honest with as I need to lower my defences to truly relax. Interestingly they all advised me to stop being so honest though just in case. In all my hobbying I ran into only a single escort that was kind of crazy and malicious... Should have heeded the pm warnings about her. My advice is to at a minimum play tit for tat for info exchange. At the minimum it should be mutually reciprocated.

Try not to get too paranoid though, it can work against you.[/QUOTE]
 
I totally disagree with this statement. Why would you want to change or convince anybody. This is our culture and our society.

Isn't that why you started this thread, to have a Code we agree to adhere with?
Is it bad to convince people your ideas are good?
 
Yes it is, it is extremely bad maybe hiddenly evil to do this. It's planting a little seed and letting it fester until a key triggers it in life and germinates it and the ideas grow out of control in the head to the ones that let it implant itself maybe subconsciously.

Selfishly the code is created for me. To protect me and maybe the girls I associate myself with against me, mybe the hidden evil me. I understand there are serious consequences to this especially to first time lurkers in my situation thinking of taking the plundge into the red world.

I just got sick and tired of being taken advantage of...honey do the dishes, do the groceries, clean the house, this and that for years and years on. Eventually I was like fuck this I need to do something before I break which is when I discovered the red world. Now I don't mind. With about 99% certanity I know that I mean everything to my wife and daughter and contribute to their happines. I know this becuase we can laugh, cry, and live life together. Before meeting me my wife she had depression issues. Right now at her work everybody gets sick of her happiness and she can't stop talking about us and how "wounderful" we are. Daugher draws happy pictures and our experiences of us all the time at school and shares wounderful stories. These are the key indicators that give the the satisfaction regardless of how much I get criticized by you guys for doing this. Unfortunately, for me this comes at a price. Provided she does not know in my mind is the ethical thing to do. Sharing this stuff publically I acknoweledge has consequences and carries collateral. Eventually things work themself out regardless or how bad it gets. I know this becuase I experienced war and come 6" from death when I was a kid. At that time the only thing thay mattered to me was to stay alive. Becuas of this I just want to bring life to my family and keep my spirit alive through this hobby and protect my sanity with some sort of code. For this I accept the sacrifice of loneliness.

Sorry jessica, I thought like you one day and said the exact same things to myself that I would rather die lonely then bing with somebody I feel lonely with. People would say I had the heart of gold...Look at me now FUBAR :D

I think there is good in sharing and acknowledging the evil it carries within.


Isn't that why you started this thread, to have a Code we agree to adhere with?
Is it bad to convince people your ideas are good?
 
This is probably one of the most famous Lonely songs (Seems like he's struggling with the high notes)

 
I thought about it, what you said, and I don't think I would change anything if I got a chance to do it again. I accept it the way it is and find other ways to gain contention. Like icespot said, there is no magical formula, it's what you make out of it if you are willing regardless if you are lonely or alone our lovely.

LONELY and ALONE are not synonymous ... I'm alone all the time, but I am rarely lonely.

Week two into a cross country tour I might start to feel homesick, but I enjoy my own company so I am very rarely lonely. Maybe when that changes I will consider making changes to my lifestyle.