The bible
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I think you need another selection:
That'd be my choice, personally.
F'rinstance, true bits:
Perhaps some elements were true, but not all (remove the "from god" bit)
That'd be my choice, personally.
F'rinstance, true bits:
- There was this dude named Jesus. Whether he was divine is another story.
- There was a Roman governor of Jerusalem named Pontius Pilate (sp?)
- The apostles - John, Peter, etc etc (including Mary Magdalene) - were real historical figures.
- The exodus of the Jews leaving Egypt. Archaeologists can find evidence of campsites of two or three guys who went on a hunting s
afari in that era, but there's never been evidence of thousands of people wandering through the desert for 40 years. - 7 days of creation? Oh, puleeeze
- Noah and the ark story. Pure fiction.
We all all going to struck dead!!!!!!!
http://www.carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/why-did-god-kill-man-spilling-his-seed-ground
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I’m not going to try to defend the bible. I’m just giving you something to think about.
Remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? I’ve always thought that was a pile of crap. God rains down fire and brimstone on 2 cities because they are being wicked.
I was really surprised to learn that they recently discovered the ruins of these two cities. They were exactly where the bible says they were. They were under about 2 meters of ash and sulfur (brimstone) and they were destroyed about the same time the bible says they were.
I’m not saying the bible is true word for word but when I learned of the archeological evidence to support the story that I thought was fiction, I gained a little more respect for the bible.
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm
http://www.bibleplus.org/discoveries/sodomfound.htm
Remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? I’ve always thought that was a pile of crap. God rains down fire and brimstone on 2 cities because they are being wicked.
I was really surprised to learn that they recently discovered the ruins of these two cities. They were exactly where the bible says they were. They were under about 2 meters of ash and sulfur (brimstone) and they were destroyed about the same time the bible says they were.
I’m not saying the bible is true word for word but when I learned of the archeological evidence to support the story that I thought was fiction, I gained a little more respect for the bible.
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm
http://www.bibleplus.org/discoveries/sodomfound.htm
The obvious reason is that it is the cheapest and easilyBrotherman said:
the single most widely read book in the world. Considering that the
book is revered by not only christians of all affiliations but a large part of it
(the part that belongs to Judaism) is also regarded as divinely inspired by the
Muslim. Leaving a copy of the Holy Bible near the bedside is not
likely going to disturb anyone from around the world
except the most militant atheists which probably represent no more than 1% of humanity.
Having said that I suspect that the Bible was chosen
as the book in hotel rooms because of the naughty
things in the chapter of 'Song of Solomon'. Being
a gentleman I would vehemently avoid reading certain
passages from that chapter before a lady. On second thought
a copy of selections from that chapter exclusively reserved for
rooms during a multi-hour outcall session could be appropriate.
After years of studying the holy book I still get a hard-on
reading those passages.
The bible is a collection of letters and memories of things that happened long after the fact. There was a convention in ROme I believe during the Roman Emporers times shortly after they had basically converted the empire to christianity that a bunch of people sat down and decided what the Christian faith actually was. ( part of this was described in the DaVinci files).
The original Bible probably represents the most accurate recollections of the people who wrote the books in it. How accurate they were and howmuch editing and artisitic creativity were put in to it over the years is up for debate. Remember it has been translated several times through several different languages. The Muslim Christian split changed thinngs as well.Every one of those would have had an effect on accuracy as well. Several reigning monarchs had there own version published think HenryVIII of England breaking with the Roman Catholic Church for personal reasons theology changed at that point as well.
All that said as an historically accurate document the bible ranks up there with greek mythology as a basis for a religion its held up well for a couple of thoussand years. As far as being simply mythology Schlieman found Troy about where the old Greeks said it would be.
The original Bible probably represents the most accurate recollections of the people who wrote the books in it. How accurate they were and howmuch editing and artisitic creativity were put in to it over the years is up for debate. Remember it has been translated several times through several different languages. The Muslim Christian split changed thinngs as well.Every one of those would have had an effect on accuracy as well. Several reigning monarchs had there own version published think HenryVIII of England breaking with the Roman Catholic Church for personal reasons theology changed at that point as well.
All that said as an historically accurate document the bible ranks up there with greek mythology as a basis for a religion its held up well for a couple of thoussand years. As far as being simply mythology Schlieman found Troy about where the old Greeks said it would be.
Your guide to things biblical has a very impressive pedigree.Cinema Face said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wyattjwm
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OnTheWayOut
This is my take on how it all started
Imagine you lived way back then and a bunch of guys are sitting around bored out of their skulls. They're bullshitting and have gone through perhaps a bit too much wine and are trying to devise ways to occupy their time.
"Hey, all these stories we tell when we're BSing and getting drunk ..... how about we write em down and compile them into a book? Someone might get a kick out of them! We can name the chapters after ourselves or folks we know."
Imagine you lived way back then and a bunch of guys are sitting around bored out of their skulls. They're bullshitting and have gone through perhaps a bit too much wine and are trying to devise ways to occupy their time.
"Hey, all these stories we tell when we're BSing and getting drunk ..... how about we write em down and compile them into a book? Someone might get a kick out of them! We can name the chapters after ourselves or folks we know."
Seeing as I was once a good Catholic girl and went to a good Catholic highschool, taking Religion was required throughout Elementary and Highschool.
Grade nine Religon was all-about the Old Testament: Adam and Eve, Moses, Noah's Ark, King Solomon, yada yada yada.
We were taught that the Old Testament is a compilation of symbol stories; these things didn't really happen but were tales passed down through generations then eventually written.
The stories are meant to teach right from wrong. They are not meant to be taken literally but we were told that they were written with the help of God's inspiration on the writers.
In Grade ten, we studied the New Testament, which we were told was actual truth.
I'm far from a good Catholic girl now, but my belief is that the Bible is a work of fiction, some of which may have been inspired by true events, most of which was inspired by a greater power, to illustrate the only important rule of any religion: Do unto others as you would like to have done to you.
Grade nine Religon was all-about the Old Testament: Adam and Eve, Moses, Noah's Ark, King Solomon, yada yada yada.
We were taught that the Old Testament is a compilation of symbol stories; these things didn't really happen but were tales passed down through generations then eventually written.
The stories are meant to teach right from wrong. They are not meant to be taken literally but we were told that they were written with the help of God's inspiration on the writers.
In Grade ten, we studied the New Testament, which we were told was actual truth.
I'm far from a good Catholic girl now, but my belief is that the Bible is a work of fiction, some of which may have been inspired by true events, most of which was inspired by a greater power, to illustrate the only important rule of any religion: Do unto others as you would like to have done to you.
