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Birf

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Same fucking thing happened in 2015, couldn't get a fucking run across against Kansas city, fuck. Didn't vladdy get picked off 2nd a couple years ago in the playoffs?
 
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What reliable pitchers do we have available for game 7..
Scherzer-Bieber-Bassitt-Hoffman
 

Phil C. McNasty

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People said Dodgers bullpen was their weakness, but with Sasaki, Wrobleski, Dreyer and Klein it looks pretty good to me
 

maurice93

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What reliable pitchers do we have available for game 7..
Scherzer-Bieber-Bassitt-Hoffman
I think Dominquez, Varland, and Fluharty could all be counted on to get some outs tonight. (roles below)

There are 6 other pitchers beyond those that you I can see as options tonight in various specific roles, some very limited.. The only guys we for sure will not see any game time are Gausman and Little.

1. Schneider loves Varland and he has been :OK" so I would be surprised to see him
2. Dominquez is reliable enough if he is facing righties. (lefties with power is an issue for him) There could be a lane for him do get you 3 outs between the #4-#9 hitters.
3. Fluharty 3rd-7th inning they still probably ride Fluharty against Ohtani-smith-Freeman if there is a need for somebody. Mixed results, but middle innings still a good enough option..
4. They might squeeze in Lauer in a lane where there is 2 lefty batters out of 3 if its before the 6th inning.

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5. Trey Yesavage for one inning. (an unlikely one, given that they appear to have enough options, but still a possibility)
6. Braydon Fisher - this is nightmare scenario in inning 1-3 where Scherzer is struggling. Fisher since he is quick to warm up, is the guy to get one out to close the inning, and then Bieber or Lauer can come in clean to start the next inning.
 

maurice93

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Ball stuck under the fence. How TF is that a ground rule double??!!
Pick the damn ball up, you cunt :mad:
In my view you are getting mad at nothing. The key runner is Barger, the tying run. What happens to Straw is irrelevant.
If the ball bounces off the wall, Barger ends up at second. *** If the ground rule didn't exist, Deeb grabs it right away and Barger still probably stays at second.

Its still the same scenario either way. Barger is at 2nd with 0 outs. The issue is Jays execution, and not the rule.


*** I put stars above because one could argue that Barger might get to third if Deeb had to grab it out of the gap in the wall. And that proves why the rule exists and is not controversial- its nonsense that Barger makes it to third because of a wall malfunction.
 
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maurice93

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Was a heads-up play by the fielder to not pick up the ball.
Deeb's reaction literally made no difference. You could see the left field umpire wave it a dead ball immediately. The video review also confirmed the lodging.

Even if Deeb had run to the wall, grabbed it out of the wall, and Barger somehow made it to 3rd (which I'm not convinced he would have) the umpires would have forced Barger back to second.
 

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In my view you are getting mad at nothing. The key runner is Barger, the tying run. What happens to Straw is irrelevant.
If the ball bounces off the wall, Barger ends up at second. *** If the ground rule didn't exist, Deeb grabs it right away and Barger still probably stays at second.

Its still the same scenario either way. Barger is at 2nd with 0 outs. The issue is Jays execution, and not the rule.


*** I put stars above because one could argue that Barger might get to third if Deeb had to grab it out of the gap. And that proves why the rule exists - its nonsense that Barger makes it to third because of a wall malfunction.
If Straw scores and Barger is on second with 0 outs, Clement's focus shifts to getting Barger to third base. Completely different scenario.
 

maurice93

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If Straw scores and Barger is on second with 0 outs, Clement's focus shifts to getting Barger to third base. Completely different scenario.
1) It was still his focus to get him to third.. the odds getting him to third via hit / any grounder to the right side of the infield or making the SS move left or some flyball) are not much lower than getting a successful sacrifice bunt down. We have seen from the playoffs that executing sac bunts have been far from automatic.

2) Do we even know if Straw scores if the ball bounces off the wall.

Baseball 101 is you run conservatively in the 9th when you are not in front of the tying runner The ball was an rocket to the gap, and with Barger needing to score anyway behind him, decent chance Febles just puts up a quick hold sign up for Straw while he is getting to third and plays it extremely cautious.

In the end it was not rule or bad luck issue. It was an execution issue.
 
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Birf

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Stop complaining about the ball in the wall, thats the fucking rule. LA would have challenged it anyway. It's the fucking dweeb on 2nd looking right at the fucking play and still getting thrown out. He fucking better go 3 for 4 tonight.

The Toronto bluple leafs.
 

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His focus was to get Straw to home. If third base is open, everything changes. Agreed that it was bad base running by Barger.
 

tombrady12

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Stop complaining about the ball in the wall, thats the fucking rule. LA would have challenged it anyway. It's the fucking dweeb on 2nd looking right at the fucking play and still getting thrown out. He fucking better go 3 for 4 tonight.
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