Terb mma thread

[jrobertson1]

How marketable is rousey as a movie star if she loses her next 2 fights or 2 of 3?......mcgregor will never beat diaz, he threw all he had at him and it had no affect in diaz, just some blood affect. He spent all his energy trying to stun diaz with blows and it didn't hurt him.

I honestly question how marketable of a movie star she is right now. Who the hell wants to see Ronda Rousey act, who would actually go out to a movie because Ronda was in it? She's an MMA fighter, not an actress, and definitely not a good actress. What is it with celebrities and trying cross domains? I wouldn't want to see Payton Manning take on a music career, why the fuck do I want to see Ronda in movies? I understand her desire to stick to movies for Ronda, it's alot easier money, I just can't understand movie studios' decision to believe that she could be a film star. She's generally unlikeable...

As for Mcgregor will 'never beat Diaz', let's take it easy there. McGregor dominated, he just made the mistake of wasting his energy going for the early knockout. He stood in the pocket trying to trade, probably cause he assumed Diaz would fall from his left. If he fought smart it would have been a very different fight. Also, put these guys in at 155 and it's a different story. I get that McGregor got beat straight up but let's not act like McGregor was outclassed. Conor was looking for the knockout and it just wasn't there in Diaz's thick skull.

 

[jrobertson1]

Meisha to defend title vs Ronda Rousey

http://abc7ny.com/sports/miesha-tate-stuns-holly-holm-to-defend-title-vs-ronda-rousey/1233042/

I think we can chalk this up as 'the one fight that nobody wants to see'.

 

[cunning linguist]

I honestly question how marketable of a movie star she is right now. Who the hell wants to see Ronda Rousey act, who would actually go out to a movie because Ronda was in it? She's an MMA fighter, not an actress, and definitely not a good actress. What is it with celebrities and trying cross domains? I wouldn't want to see Payton Manning take on a music career, why the fuck do I want to see Ronda in movies? I understand her desire to stick to movies for Ronda, it's alot easier money, I just can't understand movie studios' decision to believe that she could be a film star. She's generally unlikeable...

As for Mcgregor will 'never beat Diaz', let's take it easy there. McGregor dominated, he just made the mistake of wasting his energy going for the early knockout. He stood in the pocket trying to trade, probably cause he assumed Diaz would fall from his left. If he fought smart it would have been a very different fight. Also, put these guys in at 155 and it's a different story. I get that McGregor got beat straight up but let's not act like McGregor was outclassed. Conor was looking for the knockout and it just wasn't there in Diaz's thick skull.

McGregor "dominated"? Let's take it easy there, he had a good first round, which was blown out of proportion because of colour (blood) on a Diaz brother; who are notoriously cut prone. Connor got rocked in the second round by a career 155er who's had like 4 fights and a 50% win ratio at 170 and was at the disadvantage of only having 10 days notice, to the point where he completely abandoned his bread-and-butter stand up, then got choked out.

 

[jrobertson1]

McGregor "dominated"? Let's take it easy there, he had a good first round, which was blown out of proportion because of colour (blood) on a Diaz brother; who are notoriously cut prone. Connor got rocked in the second round by a career 155er who's had like 4 fights and a 50% win ratio at 170 and was at the disadvantage of only having 10 days notice, to the point where he completely abandoned his bread-and-butter stand up, then got choked out.

Arguing over semantics here. He clearly won round 1 and clearly won the first half of round 2. I'm not gonna argue whether the word 'dominate' applies here.
It's also a bit strange how you reference that Diaz only had 4 fights at 170 as if it would put him at a disadvantage, yet fail to mentioned that Conor has a grand total of 0 fights at 170.

 

[cunning linguist]

Arguing over semantics here. He clearly won round 1 and clearly won the first half of round 2. I'm not gonna argue whether the word 'dominate' applies here.
It's also a bit strange how you reference that Diaz only had 4 fights at 170 as if it would put him at a disadvantage, yet fail to mentioned that Conor has a grand total of 0 fights at 170.

The fact that he had 10 days notice and has fought the majority of his career at 155 stacks the deck in Connor's favour and he still blew it. Strongly disagree with the second round, Nate found his rhythm and started bobbling Connor; to the point where he abandoned his gameplan entirely and lost it. This was more than a matter of "getting caught"; Connor's mouth wrote a cheque that his ass couldn't cash.

 

[TESLAMotors]

Give you top marks on that call. Like I said before, McGregor had nothing to gain, and everything to lose taking this fight. It will forever baffle me.
Sure he can hold out to fight RDA still, or defend the title against Frankie. But overnight, he's become 'human'. After finishing Aldo so fast, I'm sure a few fighters were giving him too much respect.

Nate was the worst idea, because Nate will just say "FU", and fight for his next meal no matter who is facing him.

Exactly, he had nothing to lose from this and everything to gain, even if he had nothing to gain, the Diaz brothers, especially Nate is a brawler, but a very skilled, technical, well conditioned one. lol
The dude does triathlons ffs, boy is in shape. I wonder if McGregor's camp took that into account? Conditioning.

Anyway, Good on Nate Diaz for the win. I honestly don't like him as a person, his brother comes across as much more decent. But tonight was his.

As for Conor, it will be nice to have his endless narcissistic tongue on ice for a few months. He wasn't just caught by a lucky punch, but failed huge. He couldn't intimidate, couldn't slip and counter the long arms of Nate, and suddenly he didn't look so stellar.

I didn't care who won, just wanted a good fight after the Aldo one ended so fast.

Well said.

As for Holm - Tate: Great fight, and real battle. Again, I didn't care who won, but in the end, was happy Tate got the title. Miesha fought Holm just as intelligent as Holm fought Rousey.
But the end of the fight, how Miesha took Holm down, and hung in there, I give her top marks.

On the flip, I thought Tate was going to lose her hold, but she pulled through, amazing drive and will power, just amazing.

Plus I don't think Dana White could be anymore bitter than he is now. Rousey is damaged, McGregor is now damaged, and Tate who he openly dislikes and said should retire... just won the title.

What? He doesn't like Tate?
Jesus, she's more marketable than Rousey. At least he has a champ that's attractive now.
But I guess it was the impervious record of Rousey that he liked initially. Screw Dana.


As a footnote, I was reading a chat about Diaz and I wish I remembered it word for word, but it went something like this, "even when the Diaz brothers are beaten and hurt, they're too dumb to realize it at the moment and when they finally come to, they just beat the crap out of their opponent and won". lol

 

[TESLAMotors]

lol 3:10 and 3:26

 

[jrobertson1]

The fact that he had 10 days notice and has fought the majority of his career at 155 stacks the deck in Connor's favour and he still blew it. Strongly disagree with the second round, Nate found his rhythm and started bobbling Connor; to the point where he abandoned his gameplan entirely and lost it. This was more than a matter of "getting caught"; Connor's mouth wrote a cheque that his ass couldn't cash.

So the fact that Diaz has fought the majority of his career at 155 whereas Conor has fought the majority of his career at 145 gave Conor the advantage at 170?

 

[cunning linguist]

So the fact that Diaz has fought the majority of his career at 155 whereas Conor has fought the majority of his career at 145 gave Conor the advantage at 170?

No, your butthurt is affecting your reading comprehension. The fact that he had a full training camp and picked the weight is what gave him the advantage.

http://i.imgur.com/ICwgtIP.gif

 

[jrobertson1]

No, your butthurt is affecting your reading comprehension. The fact that he had a full training camp and picked the weight is what gave him the advantage.

http://i.imgur.com/ICwgtIP.gif

Ah, I'm butthurt now? I like McGregor, I'm not a superfan.
Diaz picked the weight, not McGregor, Diaz refused to go below 165. And you referenced the number of fights at each weight, not who picked the weight. Your story keeps changing.

My buddy and I want to see who can bench press more. I usually bench about 145 and he usually benches about 155, but today we're going to be attempting to bench 170, so I think that I'll have the advantage. Right?

 

[cunning linguist]

Ah, I'm butthurt now? I like McGregor, I'm not a superfan.
Diaz picked the weight, not McGregor, Diaz refused to go below 165. And you referenced the number of fights at each weight, not who picked the weight. Your story keeps changing.

My buddy and I want to see who can bench press more. I usually bench about 145 and he usually benches about 155, but today we're going to be attempting to bench 170, so I think that I'll have the advantage. Right?

Excuses, excuses. A guy makes a ridiculous request after making ridiculous claims by virtue of being the poster boy and it's the other guy's fault?

http://www.mmanews.com/nate-diaz-conor-mcgregor-ufc-196-replacement-opponent/

Conor "caught" an entire ass whooping, just face it.

 

[jrobertson1]

Excuses, excuses. A guy makes a ridiculous request after making ridiculous claims by virtue of being the poster boy and it's the other guy's fault?

http://www.mmanews.com/nate-diaz-conor-mcgregor-ufc-196-replacement-opponent/

Conor "caught" an entire ass whooping, just face it.

I'm not sure how I got painted into a corner of having to make excuses for Conor McGregor, I'm not defending him.
It was an evenly matched fight where Conor underestimated Diaz and played to his opponent's strengths. He clearly lost. But this whole 'Conor had an advantage' garbage is nonsense and you know it.

Whatever.

 

[cunning linguist]

I'm not sure how I got painted into a corner of having to make excuses for Conor McGregor, I'm not defending him.
It was an evenly matched fight where Conor underestimated Diaz and played to his opponent's strengths. He clearly lost. But this whole 'Conor had an advantage' garbage is nonsense and you know it.

Whatever.

Sure, let's pretend that being the A side during a negotiation and cherry picking an opponent who is in suboptimal condition due to short notice doesn't matter at all.

Looks like that's it's for McGregor-weight, guess he isn't going to beat the entire UFC roster after all.

 

[Smallcock]

McGregor should consider himself very lucky, from a physical standpoint. It's much better to have to tap out, then get KO'd. All it takes is one KO in a fighter's career and he loses his chin completely, becoming a shadow of his former self.

 

[twizz]

Ah, I'm butthurt now? I like McGregor, I'm not a superfan.
Diaz picked the weight, not McGregor, Diaz refused to go below 165. And you referenced the number of fights at each weight, not who picked the weight. Your story keeps changing.

My buddy and I want to see who can bench press more. I usually bench about 145 and he usually benches about 155, but today we're going to be attempting to bench 170, so I think that I'll have the advantage. Right?

Wtf are you talking about? Conor picked 170, Dana White confirmed it

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/3/2/11145374/ufc-196-dana-white-reveals-conor-mcgregor-asked-to-fight-nate-diaz-at-170-pounds-mma-news

 

[twizz]

Let's not forget Miesha Tate 's win was a lucky one. Holly should not have tried to roll out, if she had stayed standing it would have been a decision win for her. Holly will be back for sure.

I Holly and/or Miesha are willing to give Cyborg a 140 catchweight, this will definitely make things interesting.

 

[TESLAMotors]

Let's not forget Miesha Tate 's win was a lucky one. Holly should not have tried to roll out, if she had stayed standing it would have been a decision win for her. Holly will be back for sure.

I Holly and/or Miesha are willing to give Cyborg a 140 catchweight, this will definitely make things interesting.

That's what separates the two.

Miesha went for it and knew she had to and executed brilliantly, Holly was panicking and being the "champ" (aka the best), she made the decision to flip her over, bad decision, not luck.

This is the reason why champs are separated from the rest of the pack.

 

[Tao]

2:00 area Dana admits they are talking to GSP about UFC 200

 

[Tao]

I believe Dana was not being truthfull IF Conner had of won GSP walks into the cage and hell breaks loose and UFC is the biggest event ever....Diaz ruined it for Dana....Conner would have been GSP's tune up fight for Lawler IMHO

Now Dana is scrambling as I am sure his back up plan for a super fight would have been Silva vs GSP but Bisbing ruined that too

 

[TESLAMotors]

Diaz v baby beeber.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCr0DfZuPty/