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[twizz]

I think this claim has some validity to it

Diaz coach: Conor McGregor has got to be on some kind of steroids

By Anton Tabuena @antontabuena on Feb 29, 2016, 2:23a 153

Richard Perez, boxing coach of Nate Diaz, has also accused UFC champ Conor McGregor of taking PEDs.

During the UFC 196 press conference, Nate Diaz made headlines saying everyone in the UFC are on steroids, including Conor McGregor. His coach Richard Perez, has since followed up with even more accusations.

"Oh I sure do believe that, heck yeah. Some guys, they get busted - and to be honest with you, I know McGregor has got to be on some kind of steroids," Perez said. "He’s pretty big, and then all of a sudden (he’s) jumping to 170? Yeah there’s no way, cause I mean, he was supposed to be fighting at 155."

"So if you think about it, he was focusing on training at 155. He only had two weeks to go. And all of a sudden he’s gonna jump to 170? So no, there’s something going on."

"When Nathan mentioned it to him, he got defensive, he got angry," he continued. "If somebody would have told me that I was fighting and he told me, you know, steroids, I would laugh and say, 'yeah give me some more steroids, heck yeah, ah ha sure'. But he got defensive and mad, you know, "I’m not on steroids, I’m not on steroids!" You know, he was like trying to defend himself. So that, just his actions and the way he talked, there’s something behind that."

Perez also repeated what Diaz said about accepting the fight at a lower weight, and claims that it was McGregor who asked to be at 170 lbs. He says that Conor probably couldn't make the weight and was much bigger now as a result of doing something "shady".

"Well, all I know is that he was supposed to fight at 155, and for some reason I don’t think he would have made the weight, because he was trying to go to 165 and then he went to 170," Perez said. "So think about it. If you see that, you would think he had two more weeks to go, he would be close to 155 and stay on that, you know, or go to 160. But he didn’t, he jumped to 170. So that’s kinda shady right there."

"That’s what I’m saying, that McGregor couldn’t make the weight," he said. "Because he would have said 'okay, let’s go to 160 or let’s go to 155' because Nathan was ready for it. And he didn’t. So then he jumped to 170. Why?"

"I mean, two weeks ago - and you know, if you’re a fighter and you’ve been training for two months or so and you’re already cutting your weight down, so in two weeks you should be close to 155," he said. "So all of a sudden 155 to 170? Oh boy, that’s a big jump. So there’s something fishy going on there."

Listen to the entire interview above, where Perez says Diaz has much better striking and has the tools to make McGregor look silly.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/2/29/11131936/nate-diaz-coach-conor-mcgregor-steroids-ped#comments

Ronda Rousey's PR mandate: Don't ask about fighting, or 'she will walk out'

By Mookie Alexander @mookiealexander on Mar 1, 2016, 12:39p 173

Former UFC women's bantamweight champion Ronda Rousey was recently interviewed by an Australian news program, but questions about fighting were forbidden by her PR staff.
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UFC women's bantamweight champion Holly Holm may be just days away from her first title defense against Miesha Tate, but the interview rounds over the past month have largely circled around former champ, Ronda Rousey. Her most high-profile interview happened two weeks ago on The Ellen Show, where she revealed that she had suicidal thoughts after losing to Holm.

Australia's 7 News Perth traveled to Vancouver, BC to interview Rousey, who was doing a motion capture session for the EA Sports UFC 2 video game set to release in two weeks. Questions about her acting career, her body paint photos for Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Series, and just her general love of Australia were a-okay to be made. But before the interview started, Ronda's PR team said that no questions about fighting were permitted, or else she would walk out.

"She's a fighter! It's like asking to do a story on a [basketball player] and not talking about basketball," said reporter Mike Amor.

Video of the 67 second clip can be seen at the top of the page.

Of course, this isn't the first time the issue of Rousey and answering media questions has occurred. Prior to her UFC 193 loss, Rousey abruptly left a media conference call when asked about her personal relationship with Travis Browne, who was accused of domestic violence by his now ex-wife. Rousey's eventual explanation for dropping off the call was simply, "My phone died."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/3/1/11139722/rouseys-pr-mandate-no-questions-about-fighting-or-she-will-walk-out-ufc-news

 

[twizz]

Video: Dana White confirms Nate Diaz asked for 165 pounds, Conor McGregor told him 170

By MMAjunkie Staff March 1, 2016 8:25 pm

If you didn’t take UFC featherweight champion Conor McGregor at his word, perhaps you’ll believe it coming from UFC President Dana White. When Nate Diaz asked for the UFC 196 headliner to take place at 165 pounds, McGregor – the lighter man – told him to go further up the scale.

McGregor (19-2 MMA, 7-0 UFC) first made that claim at this past week’s pre-fight press conference, though Diaz (18-10 MMA, 13-8 UFC) later took issue with that assertion. However, the UFC boss is now backing up McGregor’s claim.

White recently explained to SI.com how the world’s largest MMA promotion came to book Diaz in the UFC 196 contest, recalling how initial options such as Jose Aldo, Frankie Edgar, Tony Ferguson and Khabib Nurmagomedov all fell through, leading the team to Diaz.

“So then we call Nate Diaz,” White explained. “He’s in and wants the fight but, you know, Nate can be a little difficult, so it took a long at time. At the end of the day, we start to look at what the fans want, and more importantly, what does Conor want to do.

“We call Conor. Conor doesn’t care. Conor says, ‘I will fight anybody, anytime at any weight. You guys call me back tomorrow and let me know what’s going on.”

With both men on board, there was one detail left: at what weight should the fighters meet. White said he wanted the fight to take place at 155 pounds, where McGregor was initially expected to meet UFC lightweight champ Rafael dos Anjos, but Diaz said the short notice would make that impossible.

And 160 pounds was out, too.

So when the number move to 165 pounds – a full 20 pounds over McGregor’s normal weight class – did the UFC featherweight champ balk?

Quite the opposite, insists White.

“The fight is supposed to be at 155,” White said. “Nate says he wants it at 165. I said, ‘No, this kid is moving up from 145 to 155. You told me you could make 155. You’ve got to make 155.’ He can’t make 155, so I said, ‘Let’s do 160.’ He can’t do 160, so I tell Conor, ‘He can’t do 160 pounds. He wants to do 165 pounds.’ Conor says, ‘You tell him it’s 170.’

“So now we have a welterweight bout. Conor McGregor is moving from 145 pounds to 170 pounds to fight Nate Diaz.”

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/03/video-dana-white-confirms-nate-diaz-asked-for-165-pounds-conor-mcgregor-told-him-170

Conor McGregor Snaps On TMZ Reporter over Racists Nate Diaz Question
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ua23m_conor-mcgregor-snaps-on-tmz-reporter-over-racists-nate-diaz-question_sport

 

[Tao]

As Frankie says the C in UFC stands for Conner

When will UFC force him to give up his 145 belt as I don't see him making that weight again

 

[jrobertson1]

As Frankie says the C in UFC stands for Conner

When will UFC force him to give up his 145 belt as I don't see him making that weight again

I give it to the end of the year before he has to give it up. I highly doubt he fights at 145 again. It all depends on what happens this weekend and at UFC 200. If he loses one or both of those fights I could see him coming back down to save face. I would like to see him win though, UFC needs this guy's 'big story' because I have a feeling Rousey is done. My guess is Rousey gets one more rematch against Holm, gets whooped again as she is completley outclassed, then calls it quits. In which case UFC needs Conor to be successful now more than ever because he's really the only massive draw they have.

 

[Hard Idle]

I don't believe McGregor is bulked on steroids. Just the opposite, I suspect he's been taking stuff to help him make 145 in the first place.

The back & forth is just the two guys trying to get a mental edge from being the one to dictate the number. Since the card was up in the air for a while, probably McGregror just wanted to have more latitude to come in at whatever weight.

He was probably going to be around 170 when the fight started regardless.

Last year he boasted he could fight 4 times a year going up & back down in weight. That was probably delusional. He's already at an age where he's overdue for his body to revolt against the weight he was cutting. Maybe the clock finally ran out on that game.

 

[twizz]

Rousey - I think she's on the fence regarding a return. If Tate pulls and upset, she's back in the game for one more. Miesha would replenish the confidence, and I'm certain Ronda would win. Then, like GSP, Rousey could walk away on top.
But if Holm wins big this weekend, I doubt very much Ronda get back in the cage to face her. Their fight was light yrs apart, and she knows it.

McGregor - Uuugh. Chael Sonnen could talk shit, and make me chuckle. Conor though, even though it a game, he's selling the sport, etc, I do grow tired of the arrogance. Everyone he faces he says "I made you rich, call the wife.. Honey, we did it". Or thinking himself a god. It annoying as hell.

But as a fighter, the guy is making me a believer. Sure 145 is hard to make, but unlike others, he always makes weight. He's never hurt, and he's taking out big names along the way.

Nate Diaz though, this match is greasy. I don't like selling Diaz short in this, but this was a hand picked welter for a reason. No camp, not in ideal shape, and certainly not his brother.
Diaz has to win this off his feet, yet he he will be baited to brawl. Diaz should be finished in the same manner RDA did, only faster.

But aside from Nate, McGregor won't and can't stay at Welter. No way on earth he takes the likes of Lawler, Stephen Thompson, or Rory MacDonald.

McGregor has silenced many doubters, but sure he will be meant for 145, where he can bully, and possibly challenge at 155.

Nate Diaz is also a good boxer himself, he's also longer than Connor.

I think Cyborg vs Holm seems like a the superfight for the women's division at 135. I don't see cupcake being much of a threat.

 

[twizz]

Wanderlei Silva Signs to Bellator

Bellator MMA Signs UFC, Pride Veteran Wanderlei Silva to Multi-Fight Contract
By: Tristen Critchfield
Mar 2, 2016
Wanderlei Silva has ended his retirement to sign a multi-fight contract with Bellator MMA.

The Scott Coker-led promotion announced the deal on Wednesday. There is currently no target date set for Silva’s Bellator debut. Silva retired from mixed martial arts in 2014 after receiving a lifetime ban from the Nevada Athletic Commission for fleeing a drug test.

That ban was later overturned by a Nevada district court judge, who ruled that the NAC’s actions were “arbitrary, capricious and not supported by substantial evidence.” Silva appeared before the commission for a rehearing on Feb. 17 and was handed a three-year suspension retroactive to May 24, 2014, meaning that he won’t be eligible for reinstatement until May 25, 2017. Silva must submit a clean drug test before applying for a new license at that point. However, he could fight outside Nevada before then, although that could lead to further licensing issues down the road. Silva could also compete for newly-formed Japanese promotion Rizin, which had Bellator MMA fighters on its New Year’s Eve card.

“The Axe Murderer” was released from his UFC contract in January shortly after he issued an apology for previously accusing the organization of fixing fights. Silva appeared at Bellator’s Fanfest prior to the California-based promotion’s tent-pole event in Houston last month.

Silva, 39, hasn’t competed since a second-round knockout victory over Brian Stann at UFC on Fuel TV 8 on March 3, 2013. The 35-year-old former Pride Fighting Championships standout owns a 35-12-1 career mark, with 25 victories by KO or TKO.

While Silva has fought primarily at middleweight, a release from promotion suggests that he could compete at either light heavyweight or heavyweight in Bellator as well.

http://m.sherdog.com/news/news/Bellator-MMA-Signs-UFC-Pride-Veteran-Wanderlei-Silva-to-MultiFight-Contract-101163

 

[jrobertson1]

Rousey - I think she's on the fence regarding a return. If Tate pulls and upset, she's back in the game for one more. Miesha would replenish the confidence, and I'm certain Ronda would win. Then, like GSP, Rousey could walk away on top.
But if Holm wins big this weekend, I doubt very much Ronda get back in the cage to face her. Their fight was light yrs apart, and she knows it.

McGregor - Uuugh. Chael Sonnen could talk shit, and make me chuckle. Conor though, even though it a game, he's selling the sport, etc, I do grow tired of the arrogance. Everyone he faces he says "I made you rich, call the wife.. Honey, we did it". Or thinking himself a god. It annoying as hell.

But as a fighter, the guy is making me a believer. Sure 145 is hard to make, but unlike others, he always makes weight. He's never hurt, and he's taking out big names along the way.

Nate Diaz though, this match is greasy. I don't like selling Diaz short in this, but this was a hand picked welter for a reason. No camp, not in ideal shape, and certainly not his brother.
Diaz has to win this off his feet, yet he he will be baited to brawl. Diaz should be finished in the same manner RDA did, only faster.

But aside from Nate, McGregor won't and can't stay at Welter. No way on earth he takes the likes of Lawler, Stephen Thompson, or Rory MacDonald.

McGregor has silenced many doubters, but sure he will be meant for 145, where he can bully, and possibly challenge at 155.

Interesting thought there on Ronda. I don't know, I feel like she kinda has to fight Holm again. I feel like public opinion has really turned on her, even before the Holm fight, and when she lost it just boiled over. Only way she gets that back is a 'comeback' victory against Holm. Therein lies the issue, because she doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of beating Holly. Puts her in a weird situation where she could either play it safe and retire, ride out a likely short-lived movie career, OR take a chance and try to beat Holly and retire immediately following the fight. I personally don't like her and would love to see Holm whoop her again so fingers crossed for the latter.

As for McGregor at welter, I sort of disagree. The only reason I think he stays at welter for a bit is because stylistically he matches up perfectly against Lawlor. He's a brawler, somewhat predictable, whereas Mcgregor is a precision striker. I think Lawlor is pretty much the only guy at the top of the division that he could definitely beat. Which creates a perfect scenerio for Mcgregor whereby he could fight for the 170 belt at UFC 200, win, and move down to 155 to fight Dos Anjos, potentially win that, and have the possibility of holding 3 belts at the same time. Then he would obviously give up the 170 belt and probably the 145 belt eventually and ride out his career in 155. That way he could always say he was the best at 170 even though he only beat one guy who he matched up favourably against. But who knows, all of that is predicated on guys not backing out of fights against Conor and that just doesn't seem likely at this point.

Nate Diaz is also a good boxer himself, he's also longer than Connor.

I think Cyborg vs Holm seems like a the superfight for the women's division at 135. I don't see cupcake being much of a threat.

It's been a year since Cyborg signed with the UFC and she still hasn't been able to make 135. Honestly, at this point she's either waiting for a UFC 145 division to be formed or she's gonna be fighting catchweight for her entire UFC career. She even said that she abandoned the whole 'slow weight cut to 135' bullshit after Rousey lost. Cyborg at 135 aint happening.

 

[Rye&Ginger]

Nate Diaz is also a good boxer himself, he's also longer than Connor.

I dont consider Nate a good boxer. Don't confuse punching with boxing. Boxers use footwork, head movement, combinations and so forth. Diaz fights in straight lines. I see diaz walking right into it.

Diaz is too sloppy too slow, McGregor is too sharp, too slick. Diaz is tough though, He might hang in there for a round or two but he's too easy to hit clean, I don't see him surviving.

 

[jrobertson1]

I too would like to see them fight again. Can Ronda make needed adjustments? You can't learn striking in 7 months, so the only thing Ronda could do is be more patient.
But that too only works to Holms advantage, so see nothing but the same outcome as the first meeting.

Yea, when it comes to striking Ronda is simply outclassed. Her only chance would be to figure out a way to take it to the ground where she would have the advantage over pretty much anyone in the division. Which is harder said than done given that Holm had surprisingly effective takedown defence in their first fight. But who knows, if she works on her head movement, improves gap control and picks her spots right she could bring the fight to the ground. It only takes one takedown for Ronda to end it.

That being said, I don't see her making improvements, she's too focused on movies to be seriously training for Holm. Her filming won't be done until around the time of UFC 200 and I have to assume she's not training too hard. I'm just not too impressed with her right now. Why anyone would think that she would be an effective film star is beyond me.

 

[Tao]

ok just throwing this out there theory or hunch

April 23

UFC 197...Cormier vs Jones...Johnson vs Cejudo

Ufc 198...Fabrício Werdum vs.Stipe Miocic...

Ufc 199...Rockhold vs Wiedman...Cruz vs Faber

UFC Fight Night 89... Rory MacDonald Stephen Thompson

So with all the top guys having already fought who would be ready for UFC 200 to make it a special card....Jones destroys Cormier end of April...can he recoup and fight Rumble by July 9th?

Is this just a Super fight....GSP vs Conner event? (assuming Diaz looses)....I have this feeling the UFC picked Diaz for a reason....all the recent talk of GSP doing a 6 week training camp...Conner vs Lawlor sells a 1/2 of what Conner vs Gsp does

thoughts

 

[TESLAMotors]

Saw this coming.

Don't fuck with Nate, ESPECIALLY on the ground. lol

 

[The Oracle]

But it works for him, especially on shorter guys like Maynard and McGregor. Gray was another who thought he could out punch Nate, and in the end, was punched silly trying to just touch Nate.l

Don't forget he battered Cerrone as well.

Nate and Nick's bread and butter on the feet is their balance and timing. With 4 oz gloves they have proven that you don't have to load up with powerful energy draining shots to be successful in MMA.

And cardio will never be an issue with these guys. So if you attempt to go toe to toe with them you are going into very deep waters. And as soon as Connor got clipped he stopped moving and started backing up in a straight line that was all she wrote.

Dana must be pretty upset right now,lol........His golden goose is a little tarnished tonight.

As for Meisha. For once she fought an intelligent fight and implemented a game plan from start to finish. Much respect, she is as tough as they come.

Ronda has her window now and the trilogy should be a barn burner.

 

[twizz]

But it started with his hands. Who said he couldn't box?

McGregor should re-evaluate that whole, "I'll fight anyone, any time, at any weight class."

Rye&Ginger said he couldn't box.
(Sorry didn't see that it was mentioned up before me lol)
Turns out my predictions were right for Nate Diaz beating Connor.

Connor was so dominant in featherweight due to his size advantage, he should have been fighting in lightweight all along. He may have gotten KOed if he fought Robbie Lawler. If RDA used BJJ he would have no chance.

Holly Holm made a huge mistake by trying to flip Miesha Tate on the ground, that cost her the fight. I honestly didn't see that coming.
Holly was willing to do a 140 catchweight to fight Cyborg, will Miesha?

If McGregor loses his next fight, his hype is totally over. Dana will lose another cash cow.

 

[jrobertson1]

Man, that event could not have possibly gone worse for the UFC as a business. Even as a fan I really wish it had gone to script but damn that was entertaining.

I'm openly a McGregor fan, so this may seem biased, but I think that the better fighters lost in both main events.
As for McGregor-Diaz, it just seemed like Conor was controlling the pace and landing more shots despite the reach advantage. He looked much better, but the second he got caught the fight was over. I'm not sure I buy the whole 'energy efficiency' thing, I just think he got caught by that left on the chin and it stunned him and he wasn't able to recover. Diaz's chin is insanely strong, he's able to take so many shots to the head without getting KO'd, which probably explains why he has the intelligence of a very gifted 3rd grader.

When it came to Holm-Tate, Holly was the superior fighter, but god damn her ground game and ground defence were atrocious. She had never been taken down before in the UFC and I guess I just assumed her ground game would be a bit stronger simply because her takedown defence is so effective, especially against Ronda and even for the most part against Tate. But when Tate got her to the ground it was just night and day between them, Tate was so much stronger on the ground. Holm is definitely the best stand-up fighter in the division but she has a lot of work to do in her BJJ. She was 2 minutes away from winning that fight, half decent ground defence would have sealed the deal.

I really hate the outcome because I'm not looking forward to any of their next fights as much as I would have had it gone to script. If McGregor won, we would finally get the possibility of a 2-belt champion. Hell, had he beat Lawlor at 170 at UFC 200, it would have opened up the possibility of a 3 belt champion. Now it's obvious he has to regroup and defend at 145. I guess now I would like to see the Aldo rematch next but that could spoil the chance at a 2nd belt and that's not as fun. If Holly had won then there would be no excuse for Ronda to not take the rematch. Now she probably faces the arguably lesser fighter in Tate, and if she wins she'll probably retire on top and ride out into the sunset. Probably retires if she loses too.

Ugh I'm disappointed. This fight will forever be McGregor's kryptonite when it comes to trash talking.

And I'm pretty sure Dana was holding back tears in the post-event press conference.

 

[twizz]

Agreed. I was a little taken that Conor stayed in the danger zone, and thought he could slip and roll Nate all fight. McGregor has two options IMO, fight like Dos Anjos and use a ton of kicks on Nates lead leg, or fight like Cruz or Dillashaw by constantly changing height and angles. Jab into Nate, roll in tight, hit the liver, and change angle and throw a hook inside.
Instead he (Conor) bought into his own hype and fought the worst possible way. Then after the fight had to mention how 'heavy' he felt...lol



So what happens here now? Does Ronda get back in the game because she sees a better chance at beating Tate?
If Ronda wants to come fight again, does she get a title shot at 200? Holm was the champ, so I'd rather see a non title of Holm-Rousy.

Honda is getting the next title shot according to Dana, but two movies that she's set to appear in have no set date for filming so her return is still up in the air. Dana also did an interview where he says he told Holm's people that the fight with Miesha was a bad matchup, so it sounds like he wanted too see Holm vs Rousey II.

 

[twizz]

Good call on picking Nate.

Seems to be a few options for the UFC now in the women's bantam. Tate or Holm vs Cyborg at 140 would be cool, and no risk of losing a belt so why not?

As for McGregor, his hype might not be fully over, but can't help think marketing wise, he took a real dent. Losing to Nate isn't a huge shock, nor anything to be embarrassed.
It was just so much went wrong for Conor like calling the first round KO, having no effect with his strikes, etc. He looked very ordinary, and its hard now to sell him as an unstoppable force.
Heck, even his chirping will cease..lol

Conor McGregor plans to defend featherweight title next, likely against Aldo or Edgar....Edgar's wrestling will definitely be a problem for McGregor.
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-conor-mcgregor-jose-aldo-frankie-edgar-featherweight-title-next-ufc-200-030616

 

[Tao]

Everyone see GSP ring side?...he has not been to a UFC fight in ages....Woodley said he talked to GSP and that he is being extremely coy about wether he is coming back or not

Woodley is the welter weight version of Edgar..just wants a shot at the title

 

[scouser1]

Really surprised and glad to see Tate as champion seeing how far she has come and she seems generally likeable. On the flip side does this mean Rousey comes back, beats her again and then we are subjected to Rousey´s WWE vilian act again which has become insufferable. I get it her job is to sell tickets and pay per views but running her mouth off about the dumbest things on social media really turned me against her. I was thinking Holm would beat Tate, rematch with Rousey where she kicks her in the head again, then its off to Hollywood for Rousey to make Fast and Furious 74 or whatever. I guess that is not going to happen.

 

[wazup]

How marketable is rousey as a movie star if she loses her next 2 fights or 2 of 3?......mcgregor will never beat diaz, he threw all he had at him and it had no affect in diaz, just some blood affect. He spent all his energy trying to stun diaz with blows and it didn't hurt him.