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Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days. Edit: The tariff war has begun.

mitchell76

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Canadians: “Tariffs will make everything more expensive!” Oh, NOW you care about prices? After nine years of Trudeau hiking your taxes, driving up inflation, and shoving carbon taxes down your throat? After watching grocery bills skyrocket, gas prices soar, and small businesses get crushed? Spare me the fake outrage. You didn’t bat an eye when Trudeau burned billions on useless climate schemes, funded foreign dictators, or bailed out failing media companies to push his propaganda. But suddenly, tariffs are the problem? Wake up. You’re already paying more—because of Trudeau. #CarbonTaxScam #TrudeauMustGo #WakeUpCanada #TaxedToDeath
 

mitchell76

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Now, say what you want about Trump, but tell me where he’s wrong. Because this is exactly the kind of manufactured crisis Trudeau lives for. Let’s be real—Trudeau has trashed Canada’s economy for nearly a decade, and now that it’s crumbling, his plan is to point at Trump and scream “boogeyman!” It’s straight out of the Liberal playbook: wreck the economy, cripple Canadian industries with carbon taxes, make us weaker in trade negotiations, and then act shocked when the U.S. slaps us with tariffs. And now? He gets to ride in on a white horse pretending to “stand up” to the very problem he created. This is the same Trudeau who: Killed Canadian energy projects, while Biden and Trump prioritized U.S. energy dominance. Crushed businesses with regulation and then acts confused when foreign investment flees Canada. Played nice with China, but now suddenly wants to be a tough guy with Trump. And let’s talk about how weak this election stunt actually is. If Trump was truly the existential threat Trudeau and the Liberals claim he is, would they be proroguing Parliament for a leadership race? No. They’d be in full-blown crisis mode. Instead, Trudeau is out here doing what he does best—running his mouth and pretending to be the hero in a fight he started. And here’s the funniest part: Nobody is buying it. This Liberal leadership race is a snoozefest. The English debate got 16,000 views. Meanwhile, Pierre Poilievre’s rally 4x that. Tell me again where the energy is? Folks, this isn’t leadership—it’s bad theater. And I, for one, can’t wait for opening night of the election.
 

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Ontario sells the US $1.3 billion in electricity every year.
So a 25% increase should put an extra $325 million in our coffers 👌
Dougie is gonna keep the 25% tax on electricity going to the US until Trump takes tariffs off the table permanently.

Ontario premier sticks to electricity tariffs despite Trump trade reversal
The move in response to President Donald Trump’s tariffs on Canadian goods could raise costs for 1.5 million customers in three border states.
Catherine Morehouse
Premier of Ontario Doug Ford speaks to reporters.

Officials in affected states say the move could raise costs and threaten grid stability for the 1.5 million customers across Minnesota, Michigan and New York who receive power from the province.

Ford lamented the decision in a CNN interview earlier Thursday but said he felt he had little choice.

“And honestly, it really bothers me we have to do this,” Ford said in that interview. “I don’t want to do this. I want to send more electricity, more critical minerals, more oil. That’s what we want to do.”

Though Canada’s total exports of hydropower to the U.S. make up only a sliver of U.S. electricity generation, experts say the shared grid between the two countries is critical to maintaining system reliability. The premier of Quebec previously told POLITICO the province would similarly consider stamping tariffs on their power exports to New England.

Border states have raised concerns about the impact of such tariffs on both customer costs and grid stability.

“The United States and Canada share one of the most integrated international electric grids in the world, allowing system operators in both countries to pool resources for reliable and economic electric supply,” read a Feb. 28 statement from the New York Independent System Operator, which operates the state power network, in response to tariff threats.


I don’t often agree with Doug Ford but in this case I think he is making the right decision.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Actually, it’s not just Ontario…Canada is keeping its tariffs in place until Trump permanently takes tariffs off the table.

Trump pausing tariffs on some Canadian goods until April 2
Canada to keep counter-tariffs in place, delay additional levies
John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Mar 06, 2025 10:44 AM EST | Last Updated: 1 hour ago
A man sits at a desk in the Oval Office

U.S. President Donald Trump again delayed broad tariffs on Canadian and Mexican goods on Thursday. (Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters)
U.S. President Donald Trump said Thursday he is again pausing his tariffs on some Canadian goods until April 2, offering the country at least a partial reprieve from a punishing 25 per cent levy.

Trump's actions are a welcome development, given just how damaging tariffs that big could be for the Canadian economy.

But the events of the last week show what Canada is in for over the next nearly four years: chaos, unpredictability and constantly moving goal posts from a White House that doesn't play by normal trade rules.

Even in announcing this supposed pause, White House officials said the tariff reprieve would only apply to Canadian exports that are "compliant" with the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA).

Before this latest trade fracas, some U.S. importers bringing in Canadian products opted to pay a relatively low U.S. tariff rate (called a "most favoured nation" rate in trade parlance) rather than comply with some complicated CUSMA rules-of-origin policies that allow for entirely duty-free access.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau holds a news conference on imposed U.S. tariffs in Ottawa on Tuesday, March 4, 2025.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is seen during a news conference in Ottawa on the tariffs imposed by the U.S. on Tuesday. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
The Associated Press reported that roughly 62 per cent of imports from Canada would likely still face steep tariffs, according to a White House official who insisted on anonymity to preview the new executive order on a call with reporters.

Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc, who has been locked in negotiations with U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick all week on these issues, said it's true some companies have not done all the CUSMA-related paperwork but "the vast majority of Canadian exports to the U.S. are or can quickly be CUSMA compliant."

"The number, we hope, will quickly rise to 100 per cent. That will take a lot of pressure off a number of sectors," LeBlanc said in an interview with CBC's Power & Politics.

But LeBlanc said "it's not the end of the road" in this trade saga — Trump's partial climbdown is just another pause and there are more of Trump's promised tariffs on steel and aluminium coming next week and beyond.

That's why Canada will not lift the tariffs it levied on $30 billion worth of American goods after Trump launched this trade war, LeBlanc said.

However, in a show of goodwill, LeBlanc said Canada has agreed to delay its second round of retaliatory tariffs worth $125 billion until April 2, when Trump's batch of so-called "reciprocal" tariffs are due to be imposed on countries around the world.

LeBlanc said Canada wants Trump's tariffs removed in their entirety, with trade rules returned to how they were before he was sworn into office in January.

The White House says these are its new rules for Canadian imports:

  • Goods that do not satisfy CUSMA rules of origin are taxed at 25 per cent.
  • Energy products and potash that fall outside the CUSMA preference are taxed at 10 per cent.
  • Goods that claim and qualify for CUSMA preference face no tariffs.
Trudeau says Canada won't relent until all tariffs removed
Speaking to reporters at a news conference earlier Thursday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Canada will hold firm and push ahead with retaliatory tariffs and other measures until Trump backs off entirely.

"Our goal is to get all tariffs removed," he said.

Canada has a strong hand to play in these negotiations — the U.S. needs the products the country sells and there's tremendous resolve in Canada to hold firm in the face of Trump's aggression, he said.

WATCH | Trudeau says call with Trump over tariffs was 'colourful':

Trudeau says call with Trump on tariffs was 'colourful' but also 'substantive'
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, speaking at a child-care announcement on Thursday in Ottawa, was asked to describe his recent call with U.S. President Donald Trump about tariffs. Trudeau, who didn't provide specifics, stressed that conversations are ongoing and reiterated that Canada is focusing on how to help people cope while the levies are in place.
"We are in a moment right now where Canada has a very, very strong bargaining position, because Canadians are so united and unequivocal about standing up for our country and standing up for our fellow citizens and being very firm that this is an unjustified and unjustifiable trade war launched by the Americans," he said.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford isn't backing down either. He said Thursday the province will slap a 25 per cent levy on electricity shipped to 1.5 million Americans starting Monday. Ontario supplies power to Minnesota, New York and Michigan.

Ford said that so long as the president's threat of tariffs continue, Ontario's position would remain the same.

"This whole thing with President Trump is a mess," said Ford. "This reprieve, we went down this road before. He still threatens the tariffs on April 2."

WATCH | American liquor staying off LCBO shelves:

Ontario pulls U.S. alcohol from LCBO shelves in response to tariffs
Ontario is pulling 3,600 U.S. products off LCBO shelves in response to Trump's tariffs, with Premier Doug Ford encouraging people to buy Canadian brands instead.
B.C. Premier David Eby meanwhile said his government is going ahead with a plan to levy fees on commercial trucks travelling from the U.S. through the province to Alaska.

He said Canadians won't let up until tariffs are taken off the table.

"Yet again the president is sowing uncertainty and chaos, attempting to undermine our economy by implementing tariffs and then pulling them," Eby said.

"We are going to ensure that the Americans understand how pissed off we are."

Matthew Holmes, the executive vice-president of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said Trump's delay "mitigates some of the economic damage" but it is "not a moment to celebrate."

He said Trump is treating the continental economy like "a toy to play with" and Canada has to hold out until tariffs are "taken off the table, without exception."

"We must inevitably be headed toward an updated, negotiated, lasting USMCA agreement that is respected on all sides. But in the meantime, Canada must keep standing up for ourselves," he said.

Tariffs on metals still coming
While Canada is getting at least a temporary break from a universal tariff that was supposedly tied to fentanyl and the border, Trump said Thursday he is pressing ahead with a previously announced 25 per cent tariff on all steel and aluminum imports next week. Canada is the leading exporter of both metals to the U.S.

Those more targeted tariffs are a major concern for Canada, given the last time Trump imposed similar tariffs on those metals there was a huge drop in Canadian exports, threatening jobs and businesses. According to Statistics Canada data, aluminum exports dropped by roughly half in 2019 as a result of Trump's trade action in his first term.

Trump also signalled there is trouble on the horizon for Canada's auto sector, which got a reprieve from Trump's tariffs yesterday. He said there will be no exemptions for Canadian and Mexican autos next month.

Trump's chaotic approach to trade has spooked the U.S. stock market with major indexes plunging again Thursday.

But Trump claimed he doesn't watch what the market is doing and it's "globalists" who are selling stock now because they are fearful of his "America First" agenda.

New details about Trudeau-Trump call
Trudeau said his phone call with Trump yesterday was "colourful" with moments of tension as the two hashed out how to bring the American-led trade war to an end.

The prime minister acknowledged that the 50-minute conversation between the two men on Wednesday was heated, but said it was a "substantive" call and that there could be a resolution to these trade issues, at least in the short term.

But Trudeau said over the longer term, Trump seems committed to tariffs.

"We will continue to be in a trade war that was launched for the U.S. for the foreseeable future," he told reporters.

A senior government official told CBC News that Trump used profanity more than once while discussing dairy products on Wednesday's call, a longtime trade irritant for the U.S. Trudeau did not use profanity, the official said.

Trump also became animated when discussing fentanyl, the official said.

Trudeau stressed that the U.S. government's own border seizure data shows Canada is not much of a problem and that the country is doing all it can to tamp down on the drug, the official said.

WATCH | Trudeau says Canada committed to fighting back:

Canada committed to ‘responding strongly’ until U.S. tariffs are dropped, Trudeau says
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, speaking in Ottawa on Thursday, said the federal government is focused on ‘reducing the impacts of the tariffs’ but that Canada will continue to be in a trade war started by the United States for ‘the foreseeable future.’
The government official said Trump and Vice-President JD Vance, who was also on the call, then pushed back hard on Trudeau's defence, saying seizures is not the right way to measure this problem. Trudeau said there's no other way to actually quantify the problem, the official said.

The official said the Trump call did end in a somewhat friendly manner, as Trump said on social media. The leaders agreed their officials should discuss the possibility of Trump exempting all CUSMA-compliant products from tariffs and what Canada might be willing to offer in return.🤣




Hahahahaha
From the above article:
The official said the Trump call did end in a somewhat friendly manner, as Trump said on social media. The leaders agreed their officials should discuss the possibility of Trump exempting all CUSMA-compliant products from tariffs and what Canada might be willing to offer in return.

Looks like the great deal maker backed down and, in exchange for his generous decision to pause tariffs, he got NOTHING!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


 
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