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Sweden did much worse than its Nordic neighbours

lenny2

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"Sweden had 7.7% more deaths in 2020 than its average for the preceding four years.

... Sweden did much worse than its Nordic neighbours, with Denmark registering just 1.5% excess mortality and Finland 1.0%. Norway had no excess mortality at all in 2020.

 

squeezer

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I'm surprised the Sweden adoring Amigos haven't been triggered. LMAO
 

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When those righties loved a socialist country, waiting for them to hate Sweden again. But let's admit Sweden isn't as a shit storm like Brazil.
 
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Mr.Know-It-All

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The entire article is the opposite of what you want and pretend that it is. Wasn't the headline a dead giveaway?

Do you all of you lack basic reading comprehension skills? You've taken a page right out of the CNN playbook.

Preliminary data from EU statistics agency Eurostat compiled by Reuters showed Sweden had 7.7% more deaths in 2020 than its average for the preceding four years. Countries that opted for several periods of strict lockdowns, such as Spain and Belgium, had so-called excess mortality of 18.1% and 16.2% respectively.

Twenty-one of the 30 countries with available statistics had higher excess mortality than Sweden.

Sweden’s excess mortality also came out at the low end of the spectrum in a separate tally of Eurostat and other data released by the UK’s Office for National Statistics last week.

Sweden’s Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, a largely unknown figure before the pandemic who became internationally known as the figurehead of the Swedish response, told Reuters he believed the data raised doubts about the use of lockdowns.

“I think people will probably think very carefully about these total shutdowns, how good they really were,” he said.
 
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squeezer

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The entire article is the opposite of what you want and pretend that it be. Wasn't the headline a dead giveaway?

Do you all of you lack basic reading comprehension skills? You've taken a page right out of the CNN playbook.
Sure sure TJ. You are the only one with reading comprehension issues.
 

Mr.Know-It-All

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Sure sure TJ. You are the only one with reading comprehension issues.
Read slowly... words right from the article. That might help comprehension:

"Preliminary data from EU statistics agency Eurostat compiled by Reuters showed Sweden had 7.7% more deaths in 2020.................. Countries that opted for several periods of strict lockdowns, such as Spain and Belgium, had so-called excess mortality of 18.1% and 16.2% respectively.

Twenty-one of the 30 countries with available statistics had higher excess mortality than Sweden.

Sweden’s excess mortality also came out at the low end of the spectrum
in a separate tally of Eurostat and other data released by the UK’s Office for National Statistics last week.

Sweden’s Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, a largely unknown figure before the pandemic who became internationally known as the figurehead of the Swedish response, told Reuters he believed the data raised doubts about the use of lockdowns.

“I think people will probably think very carefully about these total shutdowns, how good they really were,” he said.
 

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Read slowly... words right from the article. That might help comprehension:
MrUnknown. Yes please read very slowly and see if you understand the following important facts that are more significant than what you posted.

"Twenty-one of the 30 countries with available statistics had higher excess mortality than Sweden. However, Sweden did much worse than its Nordic neighbours, with Denmark registering just 1.5% excess mortality and Finland 1.0%. Norway had no excess mortality at all in 2020."

I know you still haven't understood why these facts are more significant than the ones you posted so there is no point explaining it to you again for the millionth time.
 
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squeezer

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Read slowly... words right from the article. That might help comprehension:

"Preliminary data from EU statistics agency Eurostat compiled by Reuters showed Sweden had 7.7% more deaths in 2020.................. Countries that opted for several periods of strict lockdowns, such as Spain and Belgium, had so-called excess mortality of 18.1% and 16.2% respectively.

Twenty-one of the 30 countries with available statistics had higher excess mortality than Sweden.

Sweden’s excess mortality also came out at the low end of the spectrum
in a separate tally of Eurostat and other data released by the UK’s Office for National Statistics last week.

Sweden’s Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, a largely unknown figure before the pandemic who became internationally known as the figurehead of the Swedish response, told Reuters he believed the data raised doubts about the use of lockdowns.

“I think people will probably think very carefully about these total shutdowns, how good they really were,” he said.
Yup, TJ come on man. Go to your beach holiday and stop with the bullshit and nonsense.
 

lenny2

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If you want to compare apples with apples, rather than with banana peels, easily the most significant & relevant comparison is Sweden with its Nordic neighbors.

Any other comparisons are irrelevant fluff.

Bottom line: Sweden's strategy was an epic failure.

For those interested in more details, the previous thread titles re Sweden elaborated further.
 

lenny2

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"Sweden has highest new Covid cases per person in Europe"

"Figure of 625 new infections per 1m people is many times larger than Nordic neighbours

"Sweden has reported Europe’s highest number of new coronavirus infections per head over the past week and has more patients in intensive care than at any time since the pandemic’s first wave.

" ...The figure was many times higher than the 65, 111 and 132 per million in Sweden’s Nordic neighbours Finland, Denmark and Norway.

"... The Swedish public had “really changed its behaviour and daily life is, to a very great extent, already very restricted”, said the health minister, Lena Hallengren.

 

NotADcotor

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So people are still trying to compare Sweden with places like Italy and France where normal social distancing is measures in millimeters and people great each other by licking each other's faces. You know, instead of comparing Sweden with say Denmark where people can't wait for the 2m rule to be over so they can get back to their usual 3 to 5 m of social distance or even Finland where 5km is kinda a bit too close.

Thing is this has been brought up many times.

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