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http://sex-in-words.blogspot.ca/201...bedford-v-canada.html?m=1&zx=3669a36a13b1ca15

" Sex in Words: Public Forum

Public Forum - After Bedford v. Canada: What next for regulating sex work in Canada?

Friday, January 24, 2014 - 3:30pm to 5:30pm
Location: University College, Room 179, 15 King’s College Circle, University of Toronto**(map)

Come and hear an array of panelists discuss the new legal landscape and the challenges that now face us after the Supreme Court struck down many – but not all – of Canada’s criminal laws about sex work. What happens when legal doctrine tries to address street realities?

Six experts offer different visions of the road ahead.
Cheryl Auger - Board Member, Maggies: The Sex Worker Action Project
Christa Big Canoe - Legal Advocacy Director, Aboriginal Legal Services of Toronto
Jamie Cameron - Professor, Osgoode Hall Law School
Brenda Cossman - Professor & Director, Mark S. Bonham Centre for Sexual Diversity Studies
Katrina Pacey - Legal Director, Pivot Legal Society
Kim Pate - Executive Director, Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies

Admission is free and open to the public. No RSVP required.

Generously supported by the Scotiabank University of Toronto Faculty of Law Lecture and Conference Fund and the Institute for Feminist Legal Studies, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University, and co‐sponsored by the Mark S. Bonham Centre for Sexual Diversity Studies and the Centre for Criminology and Sociolegal Studies, University of Toronto.


Sex in Words: Public Forum - After Bedford v. Canada: What next for regulating sex work in Canada?
http://sex-in-words.blogspot.ca/201...bedford-v-canada.html?m=1&zx=3669a36a13b1ca15 "
 

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Yup. Thanks for being so generous; my English prof years ago described my style as crabbed and confusing, and there's more than one TERBosopher today who'd side with him against you.
The best remedy for crabs is just shave it all off. So I hear.

Anti-Sex Conservative MP and minister of censorship prepares to advance Nordic model, denying SPs agency by calling them victims


Conservative MP Joy Smith says she hopes to convince her colleagues on both sides of the aisle the so-called Nordic model is the best way to replace Canada's prostitution laws.

Smith, who is one of Canada's foremost experts on human trafficking, said she was successful in getting a resolution in support of a made-in-Canada Nordic model passed at last fall's Conservative policy convention in Calgary, but she admits anything to do with this issue is "an uphill battle."
A week ago, I would have said that Smith is a menace and quack. But now I fear that she is getting traction and momentum. If she succeeds, we will re-enter the dark ages of paid boom-boom.....
 

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We won't interfere with the rights of grocers but anyone who buys their produce is a criminal.
 

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I wonder how the lawsuit against the Nordic model will play out. I would think it would think that it would also be seen as a violation of sex worker's rights: They can't get customers if being a customer is illegal.

I think Harper will go whole hog: prostitution is illegal.
 

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Canada’s Justice Minister promises to table criminal law solution to prostitution


OTTAWA, January 21, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Canada’s Justice Minister, Peter MacKay, has promised to table a new law that would see prostitution continue to be dealt with under the Criminal Code after the Supreme Court threw out the nation’s prostitution laws last month.

In an interview with the Prince Arthur Herald, a conservative student newspaper run at McGill University, MacKay said it would not be enough to let local communities regulate prostitution through by-laws.

“It really is in the federal area of criminal legislation in my view to address this broadly across the country,” he said.

“We’re going to be receiving a lot of input and there will be extensive consultation on this issue,” he continued. “But it’s going to take a much more concerted effort than what any local government or jurisdiction could do.”

“So for that reason I think you will find that there is a necessity within that twelve month period that the Supreme Court has granted that we will bring forward legislation, and amendments that will address what we think are significant harms that flow from prostitution,” he added.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ca...es-to-table-criminal-law-solution-to-prostit/
 

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Interesting analysis about the foundation of the SCC's decision:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/12/20/prostitution-laws-over-to-you-parliament/

In other words, any piece of legislation that would ultimately put sex workers at risk, such as criminalization, would contravene the Charter of Rights. It would likely be invalidated fairly quickly by the SCC.
I disagree with the article. If the SCC felt that sex work could not be criminalized, then it wouldn't have kept repeating that it is currently legal. Plus, even Alan Young said during argument that it would be lawful for the government to criminalize sex work.
 

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I disagree with the article. If the SCC felt that sex work could not be criminalized, then it wouldn't have kept repeating that it is currently legal. Plus, even Alan Young said during argument that it would be lawful for the government to criminalize sex work.

http://scc-csc.lexum.com/decisia-scc-csc/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/13389/index.do

Concluding that each of the challenged provisions violates the Charter does not mean that Parliament is precluded from imposing limits on where and how prostitution may be conducted, as long as it does so in a way that does not infringe the constitutional rights of prostitutes. The regulation of prostitution is a complex and delicate matter. It will be for Parliament, should it choose to do so, to devise a new approach, reflecting different elements of the existing regime. Considering all the interests at stake, the declaration of invalidity should be suspended for one year.
 

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We won't interfere with the rights of grocers but anyone who buys their produce is a criminal.
Sure, if you believe that the trading of produce is inherently harmful to society and/or the sale of produce is inherently exploitive of grocers?

Interesting analysis about the foundation of the SCC's decision:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/12/20/prostitution-laws-over-to-you-parliament/

In other words, any piece of legislation that would ultimately put sex workers at risk, such as criminalization, would contravene the Charter of Rights. It would likely be invalidated fairly quickly by the SCC.
That totally isn't what the SCC or the article says.
 

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Prostitutes, 'Johns' won't be charged in Saint John, chief says

The head of the Saint John Police Force says his officers will not be charging people with prostitution offences until federal laws are clarified.

Chief Bill Reid says a Supreme Court ruling striking down the country's prostitution laws and a decision this week by the New Brunswick government not to prosecute offenders leaves police no other option.

"We're sort of in a holding pattern," he said.

"I think it would be a bit of fool’s errand right now to start laying charges."

Reid says there is a risk the trade in street sex will increase. But his force will do all it can to discourage the activity.

Officers will continue to send letters by registered mail to the registered owners of vehicles spotted in areas known for the sex trade, he said.

They will also continue to work with the local sex trade committee and the methadone clinic, he said.

Canada’s top judges unanimously struck down the prostitution laws on Dec. 20 and gave Parliament a year to create new laws, if it chooses to.

New Brunswick prosecutors have said they expect most prostitution charges currently before the courts to be withdrawn in light of the Supreme Court decision.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...be-charged-in-saint-john-chief-says-1.2510325
 

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Glad to know that I can safely grab some lobster and get my pole waxed on the east coast.
 

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Ottawa cops visit local sex workers

OTTAWA — Police say they’re posing as johns and visiting sex workers in a bid to find the hidden victims of human trafficking -- especially underage girls.

But one Ottawa escort and a local advocate for sex-trade workers say they’re making the women suspicious and scared, not safer.

“Those girls are afraid,” said an escort who wanted to remain anonymous.

She hasn’t been targeted yet but said that other women are abuzz about police calling escorts who advertise online and booking a date.

Then when the woman opens the door to one man, she finds several more officers on her doorstep.

The women fear letting police into their homes -- they are also visiting spas and massage parlours -- being outed to bystanders and being asked for personal information, she said.

“There’s got to be a better way to handle this,” she said.

Ottawa Police Inspector Paul Johnston said that while police visited around a few dozen women a day several days this week, they just want to ask if they’re OK and let them know help is available.

Advance warning might put them at even greater risk from pimps, he said, but police trained the officers — several female — consulted with victims’ groups and have crisis workers ready.

“This is not an enforcement-driven initiative — it’s a proactive effort to see if we can find and help those who need us most,” Johnston said.

Johnston said the only negative feedback was a Facebook posting Friday by Maggie’s — a Toronto sex workers’ group — decrying police “entrapment” in Ottawa, Kingston and Toronto and warning sex workers don’t have to let officers in their homes or show ID.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/01/24/ottawa-cops-visit-local-sex-workers
 

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Revamping the nation's prostitution laws was decidedly not on the government's official law-and-order agenda until the Supreme Court of Canada put it there.

The court also added assisted suicide into the mix when it agreed to hear an appeal out of B.C. on euthanasia in January.
In December, the top court struck down the laws banning brothels, prohibiting solicitation and living off the profits of sex work.

"This idea of having these common bawdy houses is of concern, particularly when one thinks about the potential for this to open Canada up as a sex-tourism destination," said Justice Minister Peter MacKay in an interview with CBC News.

MacKay said he discussed the issue with officials in his department recently. He said staff have looked at approaches taken in other other countries, including the so-called Nordic model of legislation that is enforced in Sweden and Norway. He said the government intends to draft legislation that would help people transition out of sex work while punishing the pimps and johns.

"We believe that prostitution is intrinsically degrading and harmful to vulnerable persons, especially women and we intend to protect women and protect society generally from exploitation and abuse," said MacKay.

The minister said the process of drafting new legislation will include extensive consultations with experts, the provincial and territorial governments as well as the public.

Prostitution isn't a complex issue for the government alone. Françoise Boivin, the NDP's justice critic, said the issue is a difficult one for the opposition as well.

"It's going to derail a bit (the government's) agenda for the year, especially because prostitution's got a deadline. So we have 12 months. If all parties dreaded the moment that they would have to stand on the issue one way or the other, well the moment is now."

But, she adds, prostitution won't be the only sensitive social topic to disrupt the government's law-and-order agenda.

MacKay anticipates that the assisted suicide issue will end up in government's lap.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pet...t-with-justice-agenda-court-rulings-1.2511220
 

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Sex Law Expert Belinda Brooks-Gordon: Why the Nordic Model of Prostitution Does Not Work


An expert on prostitution laws and their effect on society has said the "Nordic Model", which criminalises the client rather than the sex worker, is "extremely dangerous".

Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon, reader in psychology and social policy at Birkbeck, University of London, and author of The Price of Sex: Prostitution, Policy, and Society, made these comments following a vote in the European Parliament's Women's Rights and Gender Equality Committee, which passed through a report recommending the adoption of this model.

The Swedish government passed the law that makes it illegal to buy sex, but not sell sex, in 1999. The model has since been adopted in Norway and Iceland, and is currently being pushed through parliament in France by women's rights minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem.

Advocates for the law say it protects women from dangers such as sex trafficking. However, others say it actually places both women and men at far more at risk.

Speaking to IBTimes UK, Brooks-Gordon said: "Any law has to be based on some philosophy or evidence, for example, harm is one – the reason murder or theft is a crime is because they cause demonstrable harm. There is no reason to criminalise prostitution clients when you cannot show demonstrable harm. In fact all the evidence is in the other direction, that it is harmful to criminalise."

She said criminalising the purchase of sex can lead to blackmail, that it makes both clients and sex workers less likely to report violence and that it leads to other levels of underground criminality.

"Like with other forms of prohibition it criminalises a vast group of people who would otherwise be law abiding. When you have a law that is based on morality, morality around which not everybody agrees, you end up with something called status law or symbolic law.

"And that was the example with prohibition. You then end up with the legitimacy of the law being called into question. We had it here with our abortion laws and our divorce laws. It brings the law into disrepute. You end up with upright citizens and members of the establishment completely side-lining the law."

But why are many politicians so keen to see this law pushed through? In 2010, Mr Justice Eady said: "Dangerous and discriminatory new provisions against sex workers' clients have repeatedly been put before parliament in England and Wales. Female ministers keen to punish clients of sex workers eagerly supported the Bill. However, while sex work has become a rights issue it is no longer just about women's rights."

Brooks-Gordon explained: "Some female ministers have a vested interest because they feel that they like to be seen to be giving something to women. And this is something that they can give to women. That completely undermines the argument or the evidence that 25% of men who pay for sex pay other men for sex. When you put that argument to them, they try to side-line it and say 'no we're saving women'.

"It's [also] been picked up by a lot of radical feminists. One strand of feminism finds it very attractive. Within separatist lesbian feminism whose ideology is that all heterosexual sex is exploitation, because the only way to overthrow patriarchy is to only ever sleep with women, they find it very attractive."

Explaining how the Swedish law came to pass, Brooks-Gordon said it was pushed through at a time when there were huge concerns over immigration: "They were having a referendum and tempers were very frayed. When you look at the discourse around that, it was 'look at these dirty black people invading our clean white land' - really racist discourses - because there was a fear they would be overrun and this led to rhetoric around trafficking.

"It was very easy for government ministers then to talk around 'we will stop trafficking', as a code for 'we will stop immigration and protect your white land'. Laws brought into being like that – knee jerk laws – are generally pretty dangerous. Also if you look at the other laws in Sweden, which has some of the most punitive laws around any kind of sexual behaviour, the Swedish model does not translate to our laws."

Brooks-Gordon is adamant there is no evidence supporting the Swedish model and said there are dozens of academics who can provide reasons why criminalising clients is a dangerous and unworkable model.

Another problem with the Swedish model is that resources are taken away from women who are in real need of help, such as those in domestic servitude or women who are groomed. By "ramping up the rhetoric on trafficking", resources are detracted from people who need them most.

"When you're going after consenting adults, having adult relationships behind closed doors, police will end up picking the low hanging fruit and going after the clients instead of chasing the harder cases. They will go after basic punters because it's much easier police work and that's very damaging to policing. That's a problem," said Brooks-Gordon.

The other aspect of criminalising clients is the knock on effect it will have for sex workers and their income. "If women are not able to make money from their sex work, there are some who may steal and do other things, and there are some who wouldn't. Their children and their other dependables will end up in worse straights."

Similarly she pointed out that the punishment for those breaking the law under the Swedish model is discriminatory, with those who can pay and fight their case getting away with no criminal record:

"It becomes a bit of a revolving door money-maker. People who are policing things should not be the same people taking money from that same thing. It is not good for due process, and lawmakers should understand and recognise that."

Rehabilitation programmes are also ineffective, Brooks-Gordon said, explaining you cannot change someone's behaviour in a short space of time.

But why did other countries introduce the Swedish model when it does not work? "Norway only introduced it because they were terrified people would come over the border," she said. "So they did it as a prophylactic measure. Because of all this rhetoric about 'you're going to be flooded by thousands of trafficking victims', they then introduced the law through a fear and then actually found it to be unworkable and a nightmare.

"It's like the flood of Romanians people worried would come over to the UK, because people will believe in these big numbers if they have no experience of that area. I've been researching this area for 20 years and that's why when people say 'there will be 4,000 trafficking victims', you think well which report?"

Looking at other countries and the prostitution laws they have enacted, Brooks-Gordon said both New Zealand and Germany have more effective methods of controlling the sex industry.

In New Zealand, research showed that decriminalisation (not legalisation), which allowed women to work together in small groups, helped improve trust in police and decrease violence. The model meant women could rely on one another for safety and companionship and that it would be "well worth piloting".

In parts of Germany, where mayors have adopted it, prostitution is legal: "German law shows that they consider it a job, but not a job like any other – so somebody could not go to a labour exchange and be told you've got to work in a brothel, that simply wouldn't happen. However, those who are sex workers can pay their taxes, they can claim national insurance – you cut down the stigmatisation and you cut down the criminalisation. In this country, women working for themselves can end up criminalised, then it's hard to get out of once you have a criminal record.

"It doesn't mean you have more people going into it. There are a still a huge number of people who would not feel able to ever do that kind of work. That's always been a fear - that if you put down the barriers then everyone will want to go and do it."

There are difficulties in all models of prostitution laws, but lessons can be learned from each. Offering solutions to how the German and New Zealand laws can be improved, Brooks-Gordon said that offering additional protective services will improve safety for sex workers and reduce crime levels, such as having injecting centres for drug users, to prevent them from entering prostitution in the first place.

"I understand that it can be expensive. It's much cheaper to stand there and say 'this is wrong let's criminalise it', but what happens is that people who are not doing anything wrong get criminalised.

"I think we can take violence against sex workers as a hate crime. I think you could mainstream safety and harm reduction into services for sex workers.

"In Liverpool they trialled a very interesting pilot a few years ago where they had informal tolerance zones and they took violence against sex workers as a hate crime and it really did improve things, but it needs political will and courage to roll those things out and it needs people to be strong on the evidence base to know what they are doing. And a lot of politicians don't know the evidence base because the waters have been so muddied."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sex-law-ex...rdic-model-prostitution-does-not-work-1434028
 

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Police across the country have been searching the workplaces and homes of prostitutes to find victims of human trafficking.

But some sex workers say the initiative, which comes a month after the Supreme Court struck down Canada’s major prostitution laws, is simply an intimidation tactic meant to harass members of their profession in the absence of the ability to lay charges.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...x-workers-as-bullying-tactic/article16539174/




Prostitution charges hit zero as enforcement focus shifts
RNC, RCMP approach prioritizes communication, safety in the N.L. sex trade

The world’s oldest profession has become the province’s unpunished crime, but police say a lack of prostitution-related charges in recent years is part of a shift in focus towards better communication and safety in the sex trade.

The world’s oldest profession has become the province’s unpunished crime, but police say a lack of prostitution-related charges in recent years is part of a shift in focus towards better communication and safety in the sex trade.

​“There’s a balance that we have to strike between the needs of the community, and the needs of the street workers,” Royal Newfoundland Constabulary Insp. Jason Sheppard told CBC Investigates.

The RNC and RCMP say they did not lay any charges related to prostitution in Newfoundland and Labrador in 2013.

There was only one charge filed in each of the previous three years.

That includes the entire array of prostitution-related offence — soliciting, procuring, living on the avails, and laws related to “bawdy houses” or brothels.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfo...it-zero-as-enforcement-focus-shifts-1.2513007



Prostitution laws cause struggle for prosecutors
National teleconference planned this week to discuss best practices after Supreme Court ruling

Prosecutors from across the country are planning a teleconference this week to discuss best practices for dealing with sex trade workers and their customers in light of a recent Supreme Court decision, according to New Brunswick's assistant deputy attorney general.

Luc Labonté said many jurisdictions are struggling with how to respond to last month's unanimous ruling, which struck down Canada's anti-prostitution laws.

The issue "has many implications" and "all my counterparts across Canada are trying to resolve how to best address this case," Labonté stated in an email to CBC News.

In its Dec. 20 ruling, the Supreme Court of Canada gave Parliament one year to come up with new legislation.

The confusion comes from the fact that the anti-prostitution laws remain part of the Criminal Code for the next year, while the government decides what to do.

Labonté expects the majority of prostitution-related offences before New Brunswick courts will be withdrawn until the legislation is rewritten. The exception would involve cases of exploitative relationships, he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...laws-cause-struggle-for-prosecutors-1.2513841
 

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Phase one of Harper's plan to introduce the nordic model is currently underway. The police are rescuing "women and girls" from men:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/01/28/police_target_sex_slavery_in_nationwide_blitz.html
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Hundreds of women and girls were interviewed across the country in a two-day police blitz aimed at cracking down on sex slavery.

Some were forced into the sex industry though threats, intimidation and drug dependency, and some are as young as 15, police said after the two-day operation.

Operation Northern Spotlight involved 26 police services, including officers from Durham and Peel regions. They interviewed more than 330 young women last Wednesday and Thursday in more than 30 cities and towns.

Peel and Durham police said in news releases they interviewed 53 women between 16 and 45 years old.

Twelve women interviewed by Durham police and two by Peel were believed to be “under some level of control.”

“Charges can be anticipated,” Peel police said.

The interviews were conducted in hotels and motels, with Peel police operating in Brampton and Mississauga and Durham in the Highway 401 corridor.

The operation involved police services from Calgary and Edmonton in Alberta; Regina and Saskatoon in Saskatchewan; Winnipeg; Gatineau, Que.; Halifax; Saint John, N.B.; St. John’s, N.L.; and 17 communities in Ontario.

“Many of the women appear to be making their own decisions to participate for financial gain,” Peel police said, but added, “Part or all of the proceeds from the sexual encounters were kept by their adult male controller or pimp.”

In a previous operation, Project Rendezvous, Peel police interviewed 93 women between October and December last year.

The women were between 15 and 40 years old, and three “young girls” said they were forced into the trade.

Peel police said criminal charges were laid against their pimp.

Durham conducted two operations last year on the sex trade, Project Spencer in March and Project Armstrong in October.

The former focused on hotels in Whitby and resulted in a 33-year-old local man being convicted for human trafficking in connection with two women, age 21 and 23.

Project Armstrong focused on at-risk women in the sex trade.

“The investigative team encountered 39 escorts and at least nine of these women had been or were victims of human trafficking,” Durham police said.

Nine men were arrested and face 83 charges related to Human Trafficking, firearm offences, drug possession and child pornography.
 

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They've already taken the position that prostitution is inherently exploitive. I read somewhere an essay where the author argued that consent cannot be rationally and freely given in an exploitive act such as prostitution.

"Some were forced into the sex industry though threats, intimidation and drug dependency, and some are as young as 15, police said after the two-day operation."

"Twelve women interviewed by Durham police and two by Peel were believed to be “under some level of control.”

“Many of the women appear to be making their own decisions to participate for financial gain,” Peel police said, but added, “Part or all of the proceeds from the sexual encounters were kept by their adult male controller or pimp.”



$100 says that these and similar "real-life" law enforcement observations will make their way in the backgrounder for the new legislation.
 

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I just read the press release by Maggies condemning the police raids. It's so funny. Maggies really doesn't understand that this is phase one of Harper's plan to locate the many female "victims" of prostitutions, to be followed by phase two: the introduction of the nordic model.

It turns out that Maggies [and its court challenge of prostitution] was the greatest ally that anti-prostitution activists ever had.
 

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If Harper does adopt the nordic model I wonder how many agencies will close up shop
 

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Prostitutes, 'Johns' won't be charged in Saint John, chief says. . . .
The larger problem is that there really isn't a word which adequately describes the pathetic hobbying climate in Saint John. Saint John is a nice enough small city, but hobbying :faint:
 

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If Harper does adopt the nordic model I wonder how many agencies will close up shop
I have been thinking about that myself. It would be so easy for the police to bust them. On the other hand, they could be busted under present laws, but the police have other priorities. I would guess that the situation will stay the same, but everyone will be a little nervous at least for the first six months after the nordic model is introduced.
 
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