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Leimonis

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I agree... A big thank you to all those who contributed... I've signed up and have something set up for next week outside TO...To all the experienced guys out there...Is it a really bad idea to bring her over to my house after we initially meet and decide on the terms?...I'm single but don't want to be stuck with a crazy lady knowing where I live lol
You are correct in trying to avoid a situation where you find out that she wants way more than you are willing to pay and it’s happening inside of your house.
just have that talk in a bar or a restaurant where you meet
 
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I actually hope that as long as other guys keep themselves in great shape, good looking with a great smile, have extra funds and above all are nice and treat girls nicely, that everyone has as much luck as I’ve had. I really feel fortunate for being able to hook up with so many girls but the double edged sword has been that I’m married and it’s far more of an addiction than anything. Really the biggest first world problem a guy could have. And no, I haven’t embellished anything, when I self-reflect I’m surprised at my horrible behaviour and not much goes into a spank bank anymore, you just want to go out and get your next “fix”. And it’s 💯 readily available.
You must be incredibly conventionally attractive to get away with $200 payments though. this is an insanely low amount
 
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You must be incredibly conventionally attractive to get away with $200 payments though. this is an insanely low amount
You would be surprised. I just setup an actual date (ie: No set gift) with a girl from seeking. She got on the site to use it as a dating site.
 

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You would be surprised. I just setup an actual date (ie: No set gift) with a girl from seeking. She got on the site to use it as a dating site.
I’ve seen those from time to time but usually they are looking for less of an age difference than I am accustomed to
 

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You would be surprised. I just setup an actual date (ie: No set gift) with a girl from seeking. She got on the site to use it as a dating site.
Setting up a date is not difficult (its a meet n greet) when meeting someone for first time. Most SBs would not ask for allowance for the MnG and would gladly agree to date. It lets both parties see each other physically and vet the red flags. Once things become intimate, they will ask for allowance. 200 is a very low amount and I would take it with a grain of salt, if someone here claims so. The going rate is 400-600 for GND types.
 

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So keep them whopper lies coming old timer.
Like I said, you think I'm lying because, in your world, it's inconceivable that a punch drunk hockey goon would have a SB appreciate you as a person such as to stop taking allowance.

I love the sound of jealousy.
 
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Leimonis

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Setting up a date is not difficult (its a meet n greet) when meeting someone for first time. Most SBs would not ask for allowance for the MnG and would gladly agree to date. It lets both parties see each other physically and vet the red flags. Once things become intimate, they will ask for allowance. 200 is a very low amount and I would take it with a grain of salt, if someone here claims so. The going rate is 400-600 for GND types.
a going rate is difficult to calculate from experience as I have been quoted up to a grand (and some of them looked the part).

But there is a bit of a consensus among daddies on the internet that 1 ppm should be a quarter of her rent. In Toronto today it would probably bring it to a bit north of 500.
 
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Like I said, you think I'm lying because, in your world, it's inconceivable that a punch drunk hockey goon would have a SB appreciate you as a person such as to stop taking allowance.

I love the sound of jealousy.
I didn't know you were a punch drunk hockey goon. When you add crusty-saurus to that maybe she feels sorry for you and it's all about pity sex for your alleged SB.
 

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I agree that Secret Benefits appears to be a scam. They just recycle the profiles and have bots send out messages to men.
I have spent some money on it but will not be buying more credits when mine expire.
Seeking is a better site.
 
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FunInToronto2023

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I'm a nice guy all the time, shack. It just bugs the shit out of you that I hold you accountable when you start telling tall tales. Kinda the way you self-appointed yourself to hold Darts accountable on every little thing he posts. I figure if it's ok for you, it's ok for me too. So keep them whopper lies coming old timer. You've almost got surferboy beat! Well...almost...:ROFLMAO:
Hey John what lies is he telling? I've had amazing experiences with SB's that most guys would say are too good to be true (because when they're happening to me I'm pretty blown away myself), probably because I look way younger than I am and keep in great shape, etc. Most of the girls I've seen, if I was young and single I wouldn't have hesitated to ask them out with the exception of a couple of duds and had them as a regular girlfriend. I figure I have about another 3-4 years of girls being truly attracted to me and not thinking "he's old" so don't be too harsh or overly critical, I'm sure there's quite a few lucky guys like me.
 

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I'm done with this site lol. I cancelled my date that I got out of pure luck - I actually learned that I don't like the ambiguous nature of these setup/relationships. Why do I want to audition/impress/court & there being a chance of failure? This is an acceptable outcome for me out in the real world, but not in one where I'll be paying. That aside, the pure amount of time needed on this app to find anyone moderately above a low/mid range sp is ridiculous.
It is hugely time consuming for sure. I think to be fair from the girl's point of view, if they're really attractive, they get approached by a ton of guys. And on their side of things, if one guy treats them to dinner and gives them, say, $1K to hang out and hook up, then they expect that that is the norm and always ask for nothing less (even though they're probably never going to find that again).
 

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You must be incredibly conventionally attractive to get away with $200 payments though. this is an insanely low amount
It is crazy low and several of them I've seen in the past about once a week, so for them we enjoy each others company and I'm sure they look at it as an extra $800/month towards rent. I think the most I've ever given a SB for a meetup is 400. I only saw her once and kind of regret not seeing her at least once more because there was tons of chemistry. We ended up running into each other at a VIP event downtown and were both thrilled to see each other, she even introduced me to her boss. Who knows maybe we'll hook up again but I'm trying to stop seeing all these girls.
 

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I didn't know you were a punch drunk hockey goon. When you add crusty-saurus to that maybe she feels sorry for you and it's all about pity sex for your alleged SB.
You guys are funny - we all have our own situations. If John says the SB likes him and doesn't take an allowance, most guys would say no way - but I believe him because it's happened before to me as well. And these weird situations like hooking up with a super hot SB, got a 5 star hotel room, room service and great sex and when she was already out the door I had to bring her back in to giver her the allowance because we'd both completely forgotten about it. When two people are into each other, anything can happen because money is just money.
 

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You guys are funny - we all have our own situations. If John says the SB likes him and doesn't take an allowance, most guys would say no way - but I believe him because it's happened before to me as well. And these weird situations like hooking up with a super hot SB, got a 5 star hotel room, room service and great sex and when she was already out the door I had to bring her back in to giver her the allowance because we'd both completely forgotten about it. When two people are into each other, anything can happen because money is just money.
I'm glad you're retaining your faith in humanity as a whole. That said, I'll bring it all the way back to: this is shack we're talking about here. It's a huge stretch to believe the massive asshole that is his online persona is 100% the opposite of who he is in real life, to the point where a supermodel SB is fucking him for free. Simply not plausible in any way. No one, in a snap of the fingers, goes from being a major dick in 99.999% of their online postings to being a charming, witty, self-deprecating 'silver fox' in real life. And we have a pretty big online sample size from which to characterize who/what he likely is in real life.

Based on that, I call BS on his claims as being 100% untrue. But like I said, if you choose to believe it, more power to you.
 

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I don't know any of you guys or your histories here but will back FunInToronto and Shack on how easy it can be to get a hot hookup with a 20 year old from my time on Ashley Madison years ago. I didn't even have to initiate. I just wrote a good profile explaining what I was looking for and after ignoring the bot messages some solid single smoke shows looking for fun hook ups would message me and be down for a preliminary drinks followed quickly by getting right to it. One gorgeous and really smart university girl I met we went from drinks at a movie theatre bar to going in and after the show started she led me to the darkened hallway and blew me right there before we had a quick fuck against the wall. Dated her for years as a sort of mistress/sugar baby thing with my main expense being the hotel room and occasional dinners out. Others were willing to do it in their work office, parking garages, even got a hummer and sex in a Hummer at Sunnybrook park once, plus the cheap motels around.

100% agree that just being a normal, friendly guy will set you way ahead of the pack. Not being weird or seeming unsafe is sexy, probably even more so now with this generation's 20 year olds who especially value someone experienced and mature in the post MeToo era and whose same age boys are more likely to be too intimidated or awkward to give them what they want.

Reading this thread is seriously tempting me to get back into this, as opposed to the strip clubs and escorts I've been limiting myself to. Even there I find I get more mileage than a lot of other clients who the ladies will confide in me just don't seem to know how to act with women. Some of them sound like borderline incels so with that as the benchmark it's like shooting fish in a barrel
 
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FunInToronto2023

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I'm glad you're retaining your faith in humanity as a whole. That said, I'll bring it all the way back to: this is shack we're talking about here. It's a huge stretch to believe the massive asshole that is his online persona is 100% the opposite of who he is in real life, to the point where a supermodel SB is fucking him for free. Simply not plausible in any way. No one, in a snap of the fingers, goes from being a major dick in 99.999% of their online postings to being a charming, witty, self-deprecating 'silver fox' in real life. And we have a pretty big online sample size from which to characterize who/what he likely is in real life.

Based on that, I call BS on his claims as being 100% untrue. But like I said, if you choose to believe it, more power to you.
Ah gotcha, I haven't read any of his posts. If he's being an ass on here, then for sure he won't be getting freebies in real life
 

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Hey John what lies is he telling? I've had amazing experiences with SB's that most guys would say are too good to be true (because when they're happening to me I'm pretty blown away myself), probably because I look way younger than I am and keep in great shape, etc. Most of the girls I've seen, if I was young and single I wouldn't have hesitated to ask them out with the exception of a couple of duds and had them as a regular girlfriend. I figure I have about another 3-4 years of girls being truly attracted to me and not thinking "he's old" so don't be too harsh or overly critical, I'm sure there's quite a few lucky guys like me.
The lie is telling dates back days at least. I called him on it as well. The story had a bunch of red flags that there is no way the story is true.

Could it happen, yeah.
Is his story true, I put it at 99.9% not true
 
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FunInToronto2023

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I don't know any of you guys or your histories here but will back FunInToronto and Shack on how easy it can be to get a hot hookup with a 20 year old from my time on Ashley Madison years ago. I didn't even have to initiate. I just wrote a good profile explaining what I was looking for and after ignoring the bot messages some solid single smoke shows looking for fun hook ups would message me and be down for a preliminary drinks followed quickly by getting right to it. One gorgeous and really smart university girl I met we went from drinks at a movie theatre bar to going in and after the show started she led me to the darkened hallway and blew me right there before we had a quick fuck against the wall. Dated her for years as a sort of mistress/sugar baby thing with my main expense being the hotel room and occasional dinners out. Others were willing to do it in their work office, parking garages, even got a hummer and sex in a Hummer at Sunnybrook park once, plus the cheap motels around.

100% agree that just being a normal, friendly guy will set you way ahead of the pack. Not being weird or seeming unsafe is sexy, probably even more so now with this generation's 20 year olds who especially value someone experienced and mature in the post MeToo era and whose same age boys are more likely to be too intimidated or awkward to give them what they want.

Reading this thread is seriously tempting me to get back into this, as opposed to the strip clubs and escorts I've been limiting myself to. Even there I find I get more mileage than a lot of other clients who the ladies will confide in me just don't seem to know how tonact with women. Some of them sound like borderline incels so with that as the benchmark it's like shooting fish in a barrel
100% I've had the same experience with SB's and yes, there is definitely a factor of just being good looking and kind so they feel safe, they also love the fact that you look at them and tell them how beautiful they are. And then actually know how to get them crazy turned on. I don't know how many were just crazy excited to bang it out because I'm married, not getting anything at home, and they love to please and be pleased. It still blows me away to this day.
 

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100% I've had the same experience with SB's and yes, there is definitely a factor of just being good looking and kind so they feel safe, they also love the fact that you look at them and tell them how beautiful they are. And then actually know how to get them crazy turned on. I don't know how many were just crazy excited to bang it out because I'm married, not getting anything at home, and they love to please and be pleased. It still blows me away to this day.
It's certainly not polite conversation out there so you don't hear much about it other than negative comments about daddy issues, robbing the cradle, etc. There's no advice columnist that's going to let their name be linked to a column on how to land and maintain an older man. Think of the power imbalance while clutching one's pearls. The girl I was with for a few years I had even tried to dissuade at first figuring it would be an unworkable match and I had more expected to find married women around my age looking for the same thing and who would understand the challenges of affairs better. But she proved me wrong in the most pleasant ways possible, said she preferred older guys, and complained that guys her age were not aggressive or knowledgeable enough to satisfy her. To hear her tell it she'd never had an orgasm from intercourse before me and she certainly enjoyed me showing her a thing or two she hadn't even thought of. I remember early on her once telling me how much she loved the way I looked at her on a date like she was the only woman in the room. One time at the Old Mill she was sitting naked in a nice chair in the room and she stained it getting wet just from me describing what I was going to do to her with my tie and my belt. No cleaning charge for those curious.

At one point she was attracted to someone in her school and I was very supportive of letting her go for it and us taking a pause as I didn't want her to miss out on the relationships twenty year olds are supposed to have. Three months of bad sex later she was back in my arms, or more accurately in latex in a 69 while I was driving a dildo into her ass. Respectfully. She did just come out of a break up and needed comforting. Think she made the Dean's list on graduation. Very good at multitasking.
 
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Hey John what lies is he telling? I've had amazing experiences with SB's that most guys would say are too good to be true (because when they're happening to me I'm pretty blown away myself), probably because I look way younger than I am and keep in great shape, etc. Most of the girls I've seen, if I was young and single I wouldn't have hesitated to ask them out with the exception of a couple of duds and had them as a regular girlfriend. I figure I have about another 3-4 years of girls being truly attracted to me and not thinking "he's old" so don't be too harsh or overly critical, I'm sure there's quite a few lucky guys like me.
Thanks.

He's had a grudge with me for a long time (because I dared to disagree with him in some sports discussions), so it bothers him what happened and his only recourse is to accuse me of lying.
 
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