Stronach running for party leadership

[Mack Bolan]

Belinda Stronach

Belinda Stronach, pervious husband was made the head of Magna when Frank step down from being the top man.
He needed the time to chase all the "young" stuff.
Within a few months Belinda's husband was caught cheating.
Well they couldn't fire him from Magna, so they had to wait a while and then fire him and replace him with Belinda.
Andy (Belinda's brother) married a stripper from Fantasia/Bunnies, who has a twin sister that also danced at the same clubs. That was some Stag they had.
Andy just plays with the horses.

 

[BSR]

I was asking if she would make a good leader because I know nothing of her, as I've mentioned, that I am not keeping up with current events, and I'm trying to gauge public opinion of her.

Her sex life doesn't concern me. Don't care if one day her head pops up from under GB's desk (unless she's PM, and doing it then).

But I think of it this way: With a politician, they say what will get them elected, playing both sides across the middle, and never really accomplishing much except raising taxes, their salaries, and their own agendas while in office. A business person has an outlook as to "how can I make money with this?". Maybe she'll make the Canadian gov't a business, sell shares into it, and as the profit margin grows, so will the stock price (ala public traded companies). (I'm only throwing this out there as a different outlook - not serious).

I just would like to see someone who may actually have an interest in the COUNTRY rather than in their wallet.

 

[cyberbard]

high school graduate, rich from daddy's company and beautiful, this is like Paris Hilton running for the US president

Not at all...apparently, unlike others, she actually is deserving of her position, regardless of daddy's putting her there. I've heard she is one of the few who deserves to be there.

As a memeber of the original Reform (I love that word ReFoooooorm) and the Canadian Alliance, I will vote for her (as I sit here today, mind you).

I wonder how one George Dubya would treat Canada if he had her to deal with instead of Johnny Cruton.

Bard

 

[katsrin]

I gotta admit, I don't think Belinda is anywhere NEAR as attractive as the media is making out. She looks okay, but just girl next door beautiful as far as I'm concerned. Some of the photos I've seen of her actually look pretty bad.

I think the people in the media who keep saying that she is so attractive are jaded 50+ year old male journalists, stuck in unrewarding relationships with less than beautiful wives

Frankly, I can't believe anyone believes that she is qualified to be the leader of a national party. Dropped out of university, figurehead at her Daddy's company, ... well, to each their own opinion of her, I suppose.

Frankly, I would like her as leader of the Conservatives. As far as I'm concerned, she pretty much guarantees the Liberals another turn in office ... worst case scenario, the vote gets split and the NDP gets in or shares power with the Liberals

 

[joebear]

she took a beating from the panelists from the CBC National tonight, Allan Gregson and Chantal something. They seemed quite sceptical of her.

 

[dudelove]

she took a beating from the panelists from the CBC National tonight, Allan Gregson and Chantal something. They seemed quite sceptical of her.

Chantal Hebert from Torstar.

 

[pblues]

I'm sure she would do a better job than that idiot Cretien.

 

[zydeco]

Sheik - you don't have to be a bleeding heart, a left winger,right winger or a defenceman for that matter to be skeptical of her. Personally, I'm prepared to hear what she has to say - but she has a long way to go to convince me that she is qualified to lead this country.

 

[zydeco]

Not sure that I agree with your analysis Sheik, but my only point is that we are talking about an absolute political neophyte here - and consequently she has the considerable challenge and obligation to show us that she is up to the task - regardless of who she'll be turning to for advice. What do you think?

 

[JeremytheWicked]

I have to agree with Sheik. No one person is truly in control of the country. If she surrounds herself with the right people, and it appears she has, she can get the job done. I don't think that Canadians are intolerant of a few mistakes, as long as positive change is the result - bring on change!

 

[zydeco]

You know Sheik, I believe in less government, and that our armed forces could use help - and in the necessity to reduce the national debt. Furthermore, I'm not from a wealthy family - yet none of these facts uniquely qualify me, or millions like me, to lead this nation.

Keep in mind that while her father may have "started from scratch", she has led an extremely privileged existence most if not all of her life - I'm not sure that she's very much like the average Canadian at all. I don't think that she needs to be like the average Canadian, most of our leaders are not. What I'm looking for with an open mind is evidence that she is qualified to LEAD the country.

 

[zydeco]

I think that's extremely dangerous logic Sheik. I'll be listening to what she has to say - and then I'll decide.

 

[tillithurts]

I say give her a chance. So what if she has no experience, to me that is a plus, fresh perspective, fresh ideas, not corrupted by the old boys club yet. Harper and the other guy certainly haven't proven to me that they are fit or able to lead the country. If fact Harper reminds me a lot of McGuinty. Nuf said about that.

Getting back to her lack of experience. If she becomes leader of the Conservatives, she will have plenty of time to get her feet wet as leader of the opposition, since Martin is more than likely going to form the next elected government.

 

[tillithurts]

I say give her a chance. So what if she has no experience, to me that is a plus, fresh perspective, fresh ideas, not corrupted by the old boys club yet. Harper and the other guy certainly haven't proven to me that they are fit or able to lead the country. If fact Harper reminds me a lot of McGuinty. Nuf said about that.

Getting back to her lack of experience. If she becomes leader of the Conservatives, she will have plenty of time to get her feet wet as leader of the opposition, since Martin is more than likely going to form the next elected government.

 

[jwmorrice]

She has the right people helping her.

And when the advisers disagree, is she going to turn to another set of advisers to tell her which of the first set of advisers to listen to? Where is the buck gonna stop?

Sorry but I don't think that someone who's never even run for school trustee is going to be able to step into the job of federal party leader and not make a mish-mash of it.

In this country, like it or not, there are many competing regional, commercial, and social interests to take into account in almost any decision. Moreover, our federal structure is rather complex. In this land, provincial governments are powerful bodies to which accommodations have to be made. How is a political neophyte to be aware of, or sensitive to, the nuances in governing?

It's easy to be cynical about professional politicians and get turned off by the balancing acts they have to perform. However, I think that to govern well, short term and long term, has to be one of the most complex jobs in a democratic society. How few manage to garner our admiration.

jwm

 

[joebear]

She will be like George Bush not too bright but surrounds herself with advisors who make all the policy decisions.

From her intervierws to date she will be unable to talk about any subject in depth. or it that a product of lack of public speaking ?

 

[jwmorrice]

hmm

Of all the prime ministers that we've had, have any of them done a good job? Not really and all of them were politicians long before they became PM.

Sheik:

I think that's too general a condemnation. Here's the review of a book about rating Canada's prime ministers. Looks interesting to me. http://www.quasar.ualberta.ca/css/Css_36_1/BRcanadas_prime_ministers.htm

jwm

 

[zydeco]

To some extent I think that it is the result of being new to all of this, Joebear, and I expect that her public speaking abilities will improve with time. The real question is - does she have anything important to say - can she articulate a vision of where she wants to take the country - how she will approach the issues that are most important to Canadians (while working within the confines of a system that jwmorrice astutely described above)? (I guess that's actually 3 questions!) There can be no free ride here simply because she's a fresh new face on the scene who apparently runs a powerful and profitable business.

 

[joebear]

We need a new perspective and we need someone that understands what a country needs, low debt, a decent armed forces and someone that can bring new business here.

I think fresh meat is the way to go this time.

I believe this was what swept Stockwell Day as leader of the Canadian Alliance. They needed new meat someone who had neocon ideas.

However the public glare and unable to deliver the conservative merger along with his continuing gaffs spelled the end of his leadership and political career.

New meat without substance is dead meat and time will only tell.

 

[joebear]

The biggest obstacle is to reconcile the reform radical ideas with those of the liberal conservatives.

The public or that soft middle that swings liberal or PC are the ones who have to be convinced that the neocons in the new conservative party are not going to highjack the agenda.

The only person to have done this was Brian Mulroney and that was difficult to maintain that partnership between East and West conservatives not to mention Quebec conservatives but he let that go to his head and almost destroyed the PC party from existence.