Strap-on Sex...

[Celticman]

if your a male and sometimes find other males super hot, then yeah your gay--right ?

We will take your word for it

On a more serious note, it is amazing to read the opinions of contributors labeling strap on as gay. If that (daft) logic holds true, then so does this. If any of them are into Greek, that is anal intercourse. So that makes them sodomites. Kinda gay? Make no mistake, no amount of mental gymnastics will separate these tow daft hypotheses.

Sex with another man is gay or, if you wish, Bi. This ship sailed eons ago, yet we have Terbites whose masculine feathers are still being ruffled by it. Go figure.

 

[mur11]

Personally I think thinking that a guy wanting a girl to penetrate him with a strap-on is gay, is pretty close-minded
I think to reduce sexuality to 'if you want to be penetrated anally by anyone or anything means you like men' is pretty stupid and idiotic
Just because it's not your cup of tea is no reason to hate. I may not have degrees in biology, psychology or sexuality, but wanting and being fully aware that a presumably attractive woman (not that if it were an unattractive woman, it make it any more gay) is penetrating you with a plastic (or whatever material dildos are made of) is not anywhere close to wanting a penis attached to a man penetrating you. Which is also very different from wanting romantic relationships with men. It might be somewhat the same ballpark, but definitely not the same thing. I also have no idea what point Ms Loki was trying to make with her description of a bowel movement, but I think it was somewhere along the lines of an asshole not being able to tell the difference between a piece of plastic and a flesh and blood cock. I've never had either up my ass, but I'm fairly certain that even if I closed my eyes, a dildo and a cock feel different. Otherwise what use would women have for a penis? (other than for reproductive uses)

 

[S.C. Joe]

Sex with another man is gay or, if you wish, Bi.

What if you got rape-say in prison, just cause a guy butt fuck you, I would not say you are for sure gay.

And no, I haven't yet found any guys to be hot looking and I haven't been raped...I'm just thinking aloud

 

[S.C. Joe]

I look at it as control, some guys like being bossed around.

Way back when I was sneaking around reading porn mags as a teen in the 70's, somebody wrote how they loved his wife to shove dido up their butt and ordering him to do the house work-vacuum, wash the dishes. I recall that cause I thought it was crazy to want-enjoy that and I was just learning about sex.

That isn't gay thou, IMO but I could see how it could be viewed that way. Gay in my book is being turn on by other males. Being bossed around by a female many "straight" guys seem to enjoy. That isn't for me, I'm to in to always having control, why I'm a terbite, lol

But then I don't enjoy spanking, not receiving or giving.

 

[mrsCALoki]

Personally I think thinking that a guy wanting a girl to penetrate him with a strap-on is gay, is pretty close-minded
I think to reduce sexuality to 'if you want to be penetrated anally by anyone or anything means you like men' is pretty stupid and idiotic

Well I think anyone caring if it gay is a little bit prudish. Why do men make such a big deal of it?

I may not have degrees in biology, psychology or sexuality, ... penetrating you with a plastic (or whatever material dildos are made of) is not anywhere close

You do not need a degree to have a clue what 21st century toys look and feel like. Hop into a car and go to a toy store and check out the pleasure skins, pink jelly, crystal pink jellies and the entire silicon family. Surprise surprise, they feel a lot more real than "a plastic" solid chunk of cheep garbage. Why would anyone be commenting on something they have never even touched?

I also have no idea what point Ms Loki was trying to make with her description of a bowel movement, but I think it was somewhere along the lines of an asshole not being able to tell the difference between a piece of plastic and a flesh and blood cock. I've never had either up my ass, but I'm fairly certain that even if I closed my eyes, a dildo and a cock feel different. Otherwise what use would women have for a penis? (other than for reproductive uses)

Go get fucked by both and then you can comment with at least a bit of credibility. You cannot even tell from a smooth bowel movement and one formed by compressed pellets and you think you can tell copies that are so close in feel to yielding flesh like characteristics? Go try it before you comment.

Hun, it is great to have opinions, but at least a tiny bit of knowledge makes it a lot more valuable.

Why do we like penis? Well that is simple, for me two main reasons. 1) You can feel all the nice parts attached to them . 2) Ejaculate is a mild narcotic and feels so incredible when a mucus membrane absorbs it.

None the less, what is so wrong with being gay? It is the same feeling, but white washed to not offend men who are afraid of experiencing the full range of sensuality. Why do guys get so upset about it? I find that entire gay not gay thing hard to understand.

 

[simon482]

simon482 and mrsCALoki. u 2 need to shut the hell up as u 2 are defeated!!!

still not defeated and you can quit acting like i am attacking you or insulting your fetish. i'm not. for a submissive you are very angry.

 

[massman]

still not defeated and you can quit acting like i am attacking you or insulting your fetish. i'm not. for a submissive you are very angry.

Hey man, don't be so naive. When you tell a guy he is gay because of what he wants to do sexually (with a woman) and he tells you no I'm not, and then you tell him actually he is, most guys will take that as some kind of insult. Why? Who knows, latent homophobia drilled into us all for our entire lives probably.

Just like if someone said that your insistence on labeling these things as gay, is evidence of your own gayness, because lots of studies show that the more a guy labels other guys "non conventional" sex desires as gay, the more likely he is gay himself. It would be expected you'd get pissed off.

 

[simon482]

Hey man, don't be so naive. When you tell a guy he is gay because of what he wants to do sexually (with a woman) and he tells you no I'm not, and then you tell him actually he is, most guys will take that as some kind of insult. Why? Who knows, latent homophobia drilled into us all for our entire lives probably.

Just like if someone said that your insistence on labeling these things as gay, is evidence of your own gayness, because lots of studies show that the more a guy labels other guys "non conventional" sex desires as gay, the more likely he is gay himself. It would be expected you'd get pissed off.

actually if you go look back after he said he isn't gay, i said cool and dropped it. from that point forward it has just been assumed and implied and people have been putting words in my mouth. i said to him i think you are a closet gay, he said i'm not, i said cool. i didn't attack him or say it in a bad way and i don't insult gay people. unless i am hanging out with my gay friends and call them a buncha fags. i didn't use hostility towards him or anything you are saying i did.

i'm not gay, have no issue with the gay lifestyle, i support gay marriage, see no reason for them not to not have equal rights. not sure how many more times i need to say that before you guys get is. i even talked to my girlfriend about this very topic today (yes she knows i post here i told her about it and told her to feel free to come check up on me anytime, gave her my password even) and she told me that he is not gay, likely bi or at the very least curious but not gay.

 

[massman]

Hey I got no problem if you are gay, and feel the need to closet yourself behind your girlfriend (i.e. "beard") and agree that nobody should feel the need to stay in the closet these days....

See, I'm just fucking with you, but it's annoying. If i kept doing it soon you would get pissed off. You told us here numerous times "I think this guy is gay" even after he assured us he was not, yet tried to make your generalizations about his question "ok" by convincing us you think it's cool if he is. You were one of the first to declare that he was likely gay, starting off this whole prolonged thread, and now try to say you meant no harm, and that you told him it was "cool( but i still think you are gay)"

In fact I didn't say you were hostile, but your responses to the op's question are at least passive - aggressive, and hence he's pissed off. Sure his responses to you have bordered on adolescent I agree, but maybe that is appropriate in an argument of who is gay or not!

Bottom line, calling a straight guy gay, will piss most straight guys off. Especially if you keep arguing why you think he is, despite him assuring you he is straight. And saying something that upsets someone is no less hurtful if you say (paraphrasing here) "I still think he is gay, but I'm not a homophobe and I don't think there is anything wrong with him being so (nor is there anything wrong with me generalizing guys that like to get pegged by a girl as gay - because I'm not a homophobe, support gay marriage and have gay friends and shit)"

 

[massman]

And you know what is really gay?!?? That winking smiley face emoticon I used there !!

 

[simon482]

Hey I got no problem if you are gay, and feel the need to closet yourself behind your girlfriend (i.e. "beard") and agree that nobody should feel the need to stay in the closet these days....

See, I'm just fucking with you, but it's annoying. If i kept doing it soon you would get pissed off. You told us here numerous times "I think this guy is gay" even after he assured us he was not, yet tried to make your generalizations about his question "ok" by convincing us you think it's cool if he is. You were one of the first to declare that he was likely gay, starting off this whole prolonged thread, and now try to say you meant no harm, and that you told him it was "cool( but i still think you are gay)"

In fact I didn't say you were hostile, but your responses to the op's question are at least passive - aggressive, and hence he's pissed off. Sure his responses to you have bordered on adolescent I agree, but maybe that is appropriate in an argument of who is gay or not!

Bottom line, calling a straight guy gay, will piss most straight guys off. Especially if you keep arguing why you think he is, despite him assuring you he is straight. And saying something that upsets someone is no less hurtful if you say (paraphrasing here) "I still think he is gay, but I'm not a homophobe and I don't think there is anything wrong with him being so (nor is there anything wrong with me generalizing guys that like to get pegged by a girl as gay - because I'm not a homophobe, support gay marriage and have gay friends and shit)"

never called him gay after he said he wasn't. at least i don't think i did and i am not going to read back. i would hate to break it to you but you can call me gay all day and you won't piss me off. the only way it would actually piss me off is if i had an issue with gay people which i don't. so carry on with your experiment. even in my first post about it i wasn't accusing him in a hostile way and have not been hostile at all and i am sure as fuck not being passive aggressive about anything, it's not in my nature. seriously dude you are way off. i said my opinion and after he got past his childish insults (which only lasted 1 post) he corrected me and i dropped it. you guys keep bringing it up over and over and saying i am saying things that i never actually said.

i said more power to him and his fetish, we all have a fetish stuff. i got a mom/son thing going and that is not really all that fucking normal either. the sooner you let this die the sooner it will die. notice i am only responding when people call me out now and not instigating.

 

[GameBoy27]

I do not get it. I guess I just cannot understand men.

Option #1 Pay money to a woman to have a plastic penis shoved up your ass
Option #2 Get paid lots of money by a guy to shove a real penis in you

And men jump for #1 I do not get it.

Sorry, don't have time to go through all the posts but posts but as a straight guy who doesn't engage in option #1, I think you're way off base with your two options. Gen has hit it right on the money. If I had the need for a SP you just got my vote.

 

[massman]

Simon I don't know what your intentions were, but it certainly reads like you were instigating. Especially when you insisted multiple times that what he wanted "sounded gay" to you.
I was just trying to illustrate a point. Sure you may be the few% of guys that don't care if strangers call them gay. But most aren't, as a truck driver im sure you are aware of that. In fact probably some of you colleagues would kick the shite out of you if you made similar suggestions about them! lol! You did push the issue, and he responded (maybe not in the most mature/ sensible way).
That was my point. That and it is a bit closed minded to think that every sex act involving a "penis replica" is gay. That's all.

Peace

 

[simon482]

Simon I don't know what your intentions were, but it certainly reads like you were instigating. Especially when you insisted multiple times that what he wanted "sounded gay" to you.
I was just trying to illustrate a point. Sure you may be the few% of guys that don't care if strangers call them gay. But most aren't, as a truck driver im sure you are aware of that. In fact probably some of you colleagues would kick the shite out of you if you made similar suggestions about them! lol! You did push the issue, and he responded (maybe not in the most mature/ sensible way).
That was my point. That and it is a bit closed minded to think that every sex act involving a "penis replica" is gay. That's all.

Peace

i did say that having a very manly woman stick a fake dick in your mouth seems a little gay. it does seem a little gay. after he said he ain't gay i dropped it from the best on my recollection. there is a definite stigma attached to being gay and that ain't cool but we won't change that here in this thread. that is just gonna take years of hopefully open minded parents teaching their kids better.

i use toys on my girl so you can say that me man handling a fake dick on her is also a little gay. it's no thing. do it and have fun and who are we to say different.

 

[massman]

Agree with the above, except a woman sticking a fake dick in a guys mouth doesn't need to be gay, rather in this case an act of submission, the ultimate sort of submission, relinquishing his hetero man-ness to his domknant mistress. If he wanted real dick, they are a dime a dozen!

Anyways in the end. A cool discussion overall.

 

[simon482]

Agree with the above, except a woman sticking a fake dick in a guys mouth doesn't need to be gay, rather in this case an act of submission, the ultimate sort of submission, relinquishing his hetero man-ness to his domknant mistress. If he wanted real dick, they are a dime a dozen!

Anyways in the end. A cool discussion overall.

and i bet some people thought i couldn't have a civil discussion without insulting people. there is a huge difference between a woman doing it and a guy doing it to him, i was confused and ignored that whole thing caloki was going on about. something like she can't tell the difference between a fake and real dick. that is hard to grasp i told my girlfriend and she laughed and asked if she had ever actually had sex before lol. it is possible to be submissive without taking a dick in the mouth, me and my girl go back and forth with it, i guess that is just a level i never thought of going to. i did admit to a friend that i got no issue french kissing my girl after dropping a nut in her mouth and he said that was gay. i guess it depends on the person. i would apologize to him if he thought i was judging him in a negative way but i am not an apology type of guy, guys who apologize are gay.

 

[massman]

No guys that like the taste of semen are definitely gay!!!!!!! Lol!

Ftr I didn't get the whole fake / real thing either.

 

[simon482]

No guys that like the taste of semen are definitely gay!!!!!!! Lol!

Ftr I didn't get the whole fake / real thing either.

that joke was very gay.

 

[GameBoy27]

So you're telling me it's "gay" if a guy kisses a girl after he cums in her mouth but not if she licks your fingers or sucks your cock after they've been in her pussy. Right, try convincing a girl of that!

 

[Ridgeman08]

This debate is STILL going on?!?! WTF?

Its really quite simple:

Regardless of what sexual proclivities and/ or activities are being practiced, sexual contact between 2 consenting adults:

Opposite gender: heterosexual
Both genders: Bisexual
Same gender: homosexual

All other opinions to the contrary are just that... opinions.

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